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« on: October 10, 2012, 10:31:15 AM »
Hannants just listed some A Model early Soviet jet aircraft.

I-211: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMU72251
I-215: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMU72261
I-216: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMU72237
Yak-50: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMU72250

They are future availability but I do like the I-21x family.
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2012, 11:53:49 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 01:15:50 PM »
I LOVE A-Model's choice of subjects... But why do their kits have to be such a pain to build?

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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2012, 04:21:56 PM »
The newer kits are better builds. One of the problems (I'm told) is the limited size of their moulding machines which leads to the necessity of breaking large fusalages down into multiple parts etc. Also the requirement to get as many variations as possible from one mould cannot help - even Hasegawa have that problem albeit the fit can be better

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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2012, 01:56:11 AM »
The newer kits are better builds...

Chris, their IL-40 was not much fun to build. In part because of the size and weight, but fit was an issue. I have some of their earlier kits and other than the reduced flash, I haven't noticed a huge improvement in build quality. I'll still be buying one of the I-21x, though.

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2012, 06:18:32 AM »
The version with the big cannons looks impressive, I am sure I could make an alternative to the SU-25 out of one of those with some underwing stores on it. I could put it into service with my cartel, and have it decimating Honduras AMX 30's  >:D
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2012, 06:38:14 PM »
That I-150 would be a nice thing to build too, nice find.
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2013, 08:31:03 AM »
A Model 2013-14 Catalog online here.

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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2013, 09:56:30 AM »
Hopefully they'll be better than the Do X which has turned out to be very bad, according
to folks who have built other A-Monster kits. The wing is completely hosed and the fuselage
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2013, 08:28:23 PM »
I WANT a Do.26 - very badly...... :P

http://scalemodels.ru/modules/news/img_5859_1360006600_08.jpg.html (down near the bottom).
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2013, 02:06:17 AM »
A 1/48 Do-26 would be even nicer... 8)


The Beech Starship could be interesting...
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2013, 04:57:57 AM »
I'd love to have this kit but ....



Can someone get the portable defibrillator.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2013, 05:27:06 AM »
I'd love to have this kit but ....



Can someone get the portable defibrillator.


I think this is the same Carl,  Combat Models - US$ 45.00 + US$20.00 for the resin detail set.  I think I'll stick with this ---

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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2013, 07:49:18 AM »
Wait and see if modelsua.com get it in, it will probably be a lot less than that. I would like one too, big turbo prop flying boats, yum yum
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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2014, 05:16:49 AM »

(image source: Bernhard Pethe/modellversium.de)

Click on the image above or the html below to view article at Modellversium.de

Bernhard Pethe has uploaded some images and a brief description of the Amodel 1:72nd scale Beechcraft 2000 Starship (kit nr. 72779) to Modellversium.de.

Wikipedia -- Beechcraft 2000 Starship
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2014, 07:49:59 AM »
I was going to bemoan the idea that the Starship would probably be hideously expensive, but if the UK price is anything like the 29 euros mentioned in that article then it's going to be very tempting indeed. Can you imagine all the military variants? Target towing, ECM training, maritime patrol, border patrol, ESM/Comint (Guardrail version with dozens of hockey-stick antennae).

If A-Model are going to keep doing business aircraft in 1/72nd then they'll be getting some of my money. What next? Piaggio Avanti? Early model Learjet?  8)
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2014, 10:41:54 AM »
I was going to bemoan the idea that the Starship would probably be hideously expensive, but if the UK price is anything like the 29 euros mentioned in that article then it's going to be very tempting indeed. Can you imagine all the military variants? Target towing, ECM training, maritime patrol, border patrol, ESM/Comint (Guardrail version with dozens of hockey-stick antennae).

If A-Model are going to keep doing business aircraft in 1/72nd then they'll be getting some of my money. What next? Piaggio Avanti? Early model Learjet?  8)
Wrong scale for me but I am still impressed that A-Model took a chance on the Beechcraft Starship. 

Putting the Starship into various support roles for a military aircraft would be nice to see.  Perhaps add the SLAR antenna to the top of the fuselage for a surveillance aircraft if you can find a decent representation of that antenna type. 
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2014, 10:55:32 AM »
If A-Model are going to keep doing business aircraft in 1/72nd then they'll be getting some of my money. What next? Piaggio Avanti? Early model Learjet?  8)
I'll definitely go for the early-model Learjet, or a whole series of them.  Particularly when you start doing some of the special mission ones (be nice to see a 30-series Learjet with all the "lumps and bumps" fitted to the Finnish ones.  What would be very nice is if someone would do a Model 24G in either 1/72 or 1/48; that one has some very interesting features.

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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2014, 10:44:54 PM »
be nice to see a 30-series Learjet with all the "lumps and bumps" fitted to the Finnish ones. 


Like this one Evan ?

http://www.modelimex.com/images/thumbs/0156318.jpg

RVHP did a whole slew of different versions of the Learjet

https://www.google.ca/search?q=rvhp+learjet+1/72&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=gWzSU9SoNZDuigKlnYH4CQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1388&bih=842#imgdii=_

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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2014, 02:10:30 AM »
I was going to bemoan the idea that the Starship would probably be hideously expensive, but if the UK price is anything like the 29 euros mentioned in that article then it's going to be very tempting indeed. Can you imagine all the military variants? Target towing, ECM training, maritime patrol, border patrol, ESM/Comint (Guardrail version with dozens of hockey-stick antennae).

If A-Model are going to keep doing business aircraft in 1/72nd then they'll be getting some of my money. What next? Piaggio Avanti? Early model Learjet?  8)
Wrong scale for me but I am still impressed that A-Model took a chance on the Beechcraft Starship. 

Putting the Starship into various support roles for a military aircraft would be nice to see.  Perhaps add the SLAR antenna to the top of the fuselage for a surveillance aircraft if you can find a decent representation of that antenna type.

It's the right scale, you just havn't realised it yet.... ;)

For the SLAR antenna, do you mean something like the Erieye? If so, then it should be pretty easy to scratchbuild.
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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2014, 04:28:45 AM »
I think the Erieye array might be a bit too much - will check the dimensions though.

Personally, a SIGINT style set up like the RC-12 (see below) is very tempting:

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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2014, 05:25:03 AM »
Don't forget that with an all-composite bonded airframe, you might not need as many antennae on the outside of the aircraft.

Hmm, what if RAM was used in the material for the engine cowlings, propellers, & such?

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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2014, 07:00:29 AM »
I think the Erieye array might be a bit too much - will check the dimensions though.

Personally, a SIGINT style set up like the RC-12 (see below) is very tempting:




That's the one I meant: isn't the electronics system codenamed GUARDRAIL?

I didn't mean to literally fit the Erieye (I think it'd be too big) rather I meant that style of antenna, i.e. a long "vaulting horse" above the fuselage. Another possibility might be a ventral SLAR for ground surveillance like the one on the Mohawk.

OR

Now this would be neat.... Two SLARs mounted between the tips of the canards and the leading edge of the wings... 8)
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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2014, 03:06:31 AM »
Bernhard Pethe has shared an in-box review of the Amodel Kh-28 and Kh-28E (NATO AS-9 KYLE) air to surface missile (1:72nd scale, kit number 72288) at Modelleversium.de. 

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« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2014, 12:50:46 PM »
Two nice things about that kit are that they provide a loading trolley and the guidance pod.

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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2014, 04:55:57 AM »
What would the difference be in size between that and the 'Kitchen' missile because they look similar. As an aside, a few years ago Hannants had a sale of 'Kitchen' missiles and I grab half a dozen for a couple of Russian kits I have.

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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2014, 05:14:20 AM »
What would the difference be in size between that and the 'Kitchen' missile because they look similar. As an aside, a few years ago Hannants had a sale of 'Kitchen' missiles and I grab half a dozen for a couple of Russian kits I have.


Physical data for the AS-4 KITCHEN and the AS-9 KYLE missiles courtesy of Wikipedia:

AS-4 KITCHEN Specifications

Weight       5,820 kg (12,800 lb)
Length       11.65 m (38.2 ft)
Diameter       92 cm (36 in)
Warhead       1,000 kg (2,205 lb) RDX or 350–1000kt nuclear



AS-9 KYLE Specifications

Weight       720 kg (1,590 lb)
Length       597 cm (19 ft 7 in)
Diameter       43 cm (16.9 in)
Warhead       160 kg (353 lb) Blast fragmentation






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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2014, 08:30:23 AM »
Wow! :icon_surprised:

The Kyle's a bit of a firecracker in comparison, innit! :o
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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2014, 01:21:05 PM »
Well, horses for courses: the Kitchen is an anti-ship missile designed to sink an aircraft carrier, while the Kyle is an anti-radar missile, designed to destroy a radar van.
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« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2014, 05:27:13 PM »
Yes, well, I'd seen pictures of the two, without really knowing their roles, but nothing that really gave me a size reference, nor apparently had kitnut617, & the size difference is somewhat greater than I expected.
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« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2014, 10:27:09 PM »
so about half the size -- thanks Jeff  :)

Just musing, a 1/72 Kitchen missile would be quite a good 1/48 something or other ---

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« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2014, 02:04:19 AM »
Well, horses for courses: the Kitchen is an anti-ship missile designed to sink an aircraft carrier, while the Kyle is an anti-radar missile, designed to destroy a radar van.
I keep thinking of a Kitchen or Kh-41 with an anti-radar seeker for deliberately targeting Aegis-cruisers as a means of degrading a CVBG's self-defense capabilities; perhaps coupled with a Kyle variant intended to deliberately take out E-2s.

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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2016, 04:44:27 AM »
Coming this year:

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« Reply #34 on: February 29, 2016, 11:55:28 AM »
Nice! We have an -18T here but I've never seen it fly. Talk about a fun family wagon.
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« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2016, 02:23:51 AM »
New one that I think a few might like:  1/72 Martin JRM Mars:



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« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2016, 05:10:41 AM »
Crap! I've got a Combat Models one.

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« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2016, 05:53:43 AM »
Has me thinking 4 or 6 C-130H/J engines.

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« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2016, 06:02:25 AM »
Me want precious but me cannot afford precious.
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« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2016, 06:38:00 AM »
Do expect price will be painful.

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« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2016, 03:14:03 PM »
Me want precious but me cannot afford precious.

Easy, just drown or strangle someone who has precious, no reason to break with tradition.

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« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2016, 03:56:39 AM »
Me want precious but me cannot afford precious.

Easy, just drown or strangle someone who has precious, no reason to break with tradition.

Got it. I will need the names of all members who intent on buying the JRM. Thank you for your co-operation.
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« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2016, 03:57:27 AM »
Coming January 2017:



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« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2016, 06:33:54 AM »
Interesting :icon_surprised: --- time to put on kitbash thinking hat.

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« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2016, 02:33:19 AM »
Damn!  I would really like that pair...in 1/48!!!
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« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2017, 10:22:15 PM »
Hannants now has the Martin Mars in the Future Releases list:



You can back order the Martin JRM-1 Mars US Navy boxing from this link: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMU03872



and the Hawaii Mars Coulson Flying Tankers water bomber boxing from this link: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMU04072
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« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2017, 07:19:09 PM »
Hannants has these in their Future Releases list.

1/72 CMC LEOPARD 1


1/72 CMC LEOPARD 2


It would make a great light attack A/C or trainer.

History: The CMC Leopard was a British light personal business jet developed in the 1980s. Two prototypes were built and flown, but the type was never put into production. Read more about the Leopard here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMC_Leopard
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« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2017, 01:54:28 AM »
Wrong scale...
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Re: Amodel
« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2017, 02:08:24 AM »
Hannants has these in their Future Releases list.

1/72 CMC LEOPARD 1


1/72 CMC LEOPARD 2


It would make a great light attack A/C or trainer.

History: The CMC Leopard was a British light personal business jet developed in the 1980s. Two prototypes were built and flown, but the type was never put into production. Read more about the Leopard here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMC_Leopard
It would make an excellent light ISR aircraft, too.

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Re: Amodel
« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2017, 02:29:46 AM »
Hannants now has the Martin Mars in the Future Releases list:



You can back order the Martin JRM-1 Mars US Navy boxing from this link: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMU03872



and the Hawaii Mars Coulson Flying Tankers water bomber boxing from this link: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMU04072

I wonder...what about a turboprop Mars?
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Re: Amodel
« Reply #50 on: June 15, 2017, 05:28:39 AM »
I think a quartet of Darts would look pretty nice.
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Re: Amodel
« Reply #51 on: June 15, 2017, 01:55:48 PM »
I think a quartet of Darts would look pretty nice.

Darts?  Darts?  Too small!  A quartet of Tynes!    ;)

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Re: Amodel
« Reply #52 on: June 15, 2017, 09:13:54 PM »
I think a quartet of Darts would look pretty nice.

Darts?  Darts?  Too small!  A quartet of Tynes!    ;)

I would go with P&W PW150A engines, as powering the Q400 turbo-props. Or even the PW100 type on the CL-415 (probably a better deal considering they're for a flying boat anyway)

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Re: Amodel
« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2017, 05:47:03 AM »
Work in progress ::

I am giving up listing them. They all end up on the shelf of procrastination anyways.

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Re: Amodel
« Reply #54 on: August 14, 2017, 05:00:33 AM »
[The Yakovlev Yak-42 (Russian: Яковлев Як-42; NATO reporting name: "Clobber") is a 100/120-seat three-engined mid-range passenger jet. It is the first airliner produced in the Soviet Union to be powered by modern high-bypass turbofan engines] via: Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre.
Upcoming - September 2017

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Re: Amodel
« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2019, 06:56:18 PM »


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Re: Amodel
« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2019, 09:13:32 PM »
Hmmm...do I replace my Broplan one?
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Re: Amodel
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2019, 07:36:16 PM »
Nice, very nice and very tempting.

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Re: Amodel
« Reply #58 on: October 15, 2020, 02:11:25 AM »
Sigh...

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Re: Amodel
« Reply #59 on: October 15, 2020, 02:44:57 AM »
Ideal for a 2,850 lb thrust J85.

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Re: Amodel
« Reply #60 on: August 04, 2023, 03:18:35 AM »


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Re: Amodel
« Reply #61 on: August 05, 2023, 08:47:32 AM »
Mitsubishi sold the Diamond to Beech when they got out of the business aircraft business.  Beech also has to support the existing MU-2 fleet.