TSR.2 Ideas and Inspiration

[The Big Gimper]

I have 3 in the stash.

One will be CAF (XtraDecals CF-109A), one a USAF F-120A and I was thinking for the third to have a multi-wheel boogie, canards (boring?), AIM-47Ds and other missilely things.

I also found this cool Spectrum Mistel with Angel Interceptor  while searching Google images.

Thoughts?

[kitnut617]

I started this one a while ago (top pics), it hasn't got much further than this though  ----    (bottom pics)

[kitnut617]

I had to really give it some thought how I was going to fix the transition point between the forward fuselage and the rest of it but I came up with this idea.

[The Big Gimper]

Nice job Robert.

That's the air intake to support the A/C system which cools very hot electronics bay. Right?  :)

Whose canopy is that?

[kitnut617]

Nice job Robert.

That's the air intake to support the A/C system which cools very hot electronics bay. Right?  :)

Whose canopy is that?

That's right, there will be another cooling duct on the other side once it's finished (or I get back at it ) I'm also opening up the exits for the cooling air (top pic)

The whole front end comes from a Tornado, I did a fancy 'Z' cut on the TSR2 fuselage (second pic) then cut the Tornado fuselage to suit (third pic). In the last pic you can see how it came together.  The two fuselage widths are pratically the same where they contact each other, this could be just the quirks of the kits though (both Airfix).  There's a panel line on the TSR2 kit which slopes down so I cut along it, I then made the Tornado part slope down at the same angle which required some under fuselage filler.  I thought that if I cut the 'Z' cut I then wouldn't need so much filler in that place.  I thought if I use the 'shelf' that runs beside the Tornado canopy it would lead right into an air scoop, it worked out quite well.

[kitnut617]

BTW, this will be a 617 Sqn. aircraft, and in keeping with it's history at precision bombing (and using large bombs), it will be armed with this very large laser guided bomb (a converted Tallboy) (top pic).  Which fit's in the bomb bay quite snuggly (second pic).  Last pic to give you an idea how big it is, here it is next to a British Grand Slam and a T12

[kitnut617]

Initially I was going to do this in the top pic but as usual, things progressed from there.

[The Big Gimper]

Robert:

Where did you source the large drop tanks from?

Carl

[GTX_Admin]

I have two in the stash.  1 will be finished as a German aircraft and the other as an Italian.

[kitnut617]

Robert:

Where did you source the large drop tanks from?

Carl

From another Tornado Carl, this time the Monogram 1/72 Tornado IDS "Gulf War" rebox.  The wings swing and the stores pylons swivel too and they're the snap-in type so when I packed my models for the house move a few years ago I had removed the pylons for ease of packing.  It looks like the artist in the picture must have had the same kit because the parts from the Tornado are almost identical, even the laser designator comes with the kit.

One thing though, if you use the correct pylon attaching points on the TSR2, the missile rail on the Tornado pylon is best positioned so it's on the inside towards the fuselage.

[kitnut617]

Here's another inspiring picture, this is the print that came with the Airfix Club Members offering of the TSR2.  I took it to a professional framer to get it properly framed and the framer told me that the print is an exceptionally good one and is done on a particular type of paper/cloth that needs stretching when it's framed.  He told me the print was worth about C$200     and it came free with the kit.  I haven't got it framed yet because the cost to that was a bit expensive at the time.  I think I'll get it done sometime in the near future.

[The Big Gimper]

Thanks Robert.

I did some research since (should have done this first) and I see the Tornado F3 is what I need to get the tanks and pylon.

Nice job the "delta box". Is that a Mirage IV beside the Arrow?

[kitnut617]

Nice job the "delta box". Is that a Mirage IV beside the Arrow?

Yup!

[The Big Gimper]

Nice job the "delta box". Is that a Mirage IV beside the Arrow?

Yup!

Cool. I have 2 of those so it is interesting to see how the size comparison between all the A/C you have in this box.

[kitnut617]

Thanks Robert.
I did some research since (should have done this first) and I see the Tornado F3 is what I need to get the tanks and pylon.

Umm! I think actually the tanks I used did come from an F.3 (which is in the 'delta box too).  I built this quite a while ago and I think some RW photos appeared at the time showing the IDS's equipped with these tanks so I swapped them over.  Been a while and I can't remember what I did now.

[kitnut617]

Nice job the "delta box". Is that a Mirage IV beside the Arrow?

Yup!

Cool. I have 2 of those so it is interesting to see how the size comparison between all the A/C you have in this box.

'nother pic of the box for you Carl.  I should mention that the Arrow kit is the Hobbycraft one, and it actually measures out as about 1/75 scale

[The Big Gimper]

Thanks Robert.
I did some research since (should have done this first) and I see the Tornado F3 is what I need to get the tanks and pylon.

Umm! I think actually the tanks I used did come from an F.3 (which is in the 'delta box too).  I built this quite a while ago and I think some RW photos appeared at the time showing the IDS's equipped with these tanks so I swapped them over.  Been a while and I can't remember what I did now.

That makes sense. Since I do not have any Tonkas in the stash, I'm thinking of the Tamiya F.3 as the donor kit as it has the two Sidewinder rails per pylon ($16 @ Ebay ) and an Italeri IDS ($17 @ Luckymodel) as it has all 4 pylons. Both for $31 @ Hobbyeasy.

[GTX_Admin]

You can also buy the Tornado Hindenburg tanks by themselves.

[deathjester]

If you try Freightdog Models, I think they still do the TSR2 Conformal Belly Tank, and they may do other drop tanks for her too...?

[kitnut617]

You can also buy the Tornado Hindenburg tanks by themselves.

In 1/72 Greg ? where ?

[kitnut617]

Thanks Robert.
I did some research since (should have done this first) and I see the Tornado F3 is what I need to get the tanks and pylon.

Umm! I think actually the tanks I used did come from an F.3 (which is in the 'delta box too).  I built this quite a while ago and I think some RW photos appeared at the time showing the IDS's equipped with these tanks so I swapped them over.  Been a while and I can't remember what I did now.

That makes sense. Since I do not have any Tonkas in the stash, I'm thinking of the Tamiya F.3 as the donor kit as it has the two Sidewinder rails per pylon ($16 @ Ebay ) and an Italeri IDS ($17 @ Luckymodel) as it has all 4 pylons. Both for $31 @ Hobbyeasy.

My F.3 is the Airfix kit and it definitely has (had) the big tanks.

[The Big Gimper]

If you try Freightdog Models, I think they still do the TSR2 Conformal Belly Tank, and they may do other drop tanks for her too...?

About a year ago Colin @ Freightdog had a small fire sale so I was able to pick up the Conformal Belly Tank and two Bluewater pylons. I'm going to use these on my USAF F-120A along with I think two of Colin's 300 Gal A-4 tanks.  I was thinking of using AGM-69s as the primary payload.

[kitnut617]

Some time ago and on 'The What-If Forum', Evan had suggested that for really big tanks on the 1/72 TSR2 (1000 Gal.), was to use the 1/48 AV-8B tanks

[kitnut617]

If you try Freightdog Models, I think they still do the TSR2 Conformal Belly Tank, and they may do other drop tanks for her too...?

About a year ago Colin @ Freightdog had a small fire sale so I was able to pick up the Conformal Belly Tank and two Bluewater pylons. I'm going to use these on my USAF F-120A along with I think two of Colin's 300 Gal A-4 tanks.  I was thinking of using AGM-69s as the primary payload.

On my build I'm also using the 'Bluewater' pylons, in my backstory I'm having these packed with ECM equipment instead of the usual gizmos. I like the air vent on the rear of the pylon and seemed to me just right for cooling electrical gear once an appropriate air intake along the pylon sides has been made..

[kitnut617]

Those Harrier tanks would fit like this

[The Big Gimper]

Wow Real time imaging and stash raiding. 

I stand corrected, I don't have the Blue Water pylons. Just plane old fashion boring pylons. 

As the AV-8B drop tanks, those are BIG. So what kits don't you have in your stash? 

BTW I found your original build thread here:

http://airfixtributeforum.wonko.myfastforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=13899&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

[GTX_Admin]

You can also buy the Tornado Hindenburg tanks by themselves.

In 1/72 Greg ? where ?

Here for one: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MLCS110

 I know you can also get them in 1/48.

[kitnut617]

Wow Real time imaging and stash raiding. 

I stand corrected, I don't have the Blue Water pylons. Just plane old fashion boring pylons. 

As the AV-8B drop tanks, those are BIG. So what kits don't you have in your stash? 

BTW I found your original build thread here:

http://airfixtributeforum.wonko.myfastforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=13899&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

 

As you can see, not much done to it for over three years (it sits in the box on a shelf in my office so I see it every day    ).  I've got three TSR2's in the stash, this one in the process, one was to be 'as was', and the third one in a Canadian scheme.  But plans have changed a bit since then and I'll probably need a couple more sometime in the future.

I've got a plan to do this to one of them, top two pics.  Then TSRjoe said that there was an actual study for something like that and sent me (or posted on a forum) the bottom pic. (I think it was TSRjoe who sent me the pic)

[kitnut617]

Wow Real time imaging and stash raiding. 

As I said in the above post, everything is quite handy. They're about five feet away from me ---- 

[kitnut617]

You can also buy the Tornado Hindenburg tanks by themselves.

In 1/72 Greg ? where ?

Here for one: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MLCS110

 I know you can also get them in 1/48.

Thanks Greg, I didn't know you could buy the tanks serparately, definitely going on the shopping list now ----

[The Big Gimper]

You can also buy the Tornado Hindenburg tanks by themselves.

In 1/72 Greg ? where ?

Here for one: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MLCS110

 I know you can also get them in 1/48.

Thanks Greg, I didn't know you could buy the tanks serparately, definitely going on the shopping list now ----

Tonka newbie question: What is the difference between the Hinderburg tanks and the ones that ship with the complete kits?

[kitnut617]

Tonka newbie question: What is the difference between the Hinderburg tanks and the ones that ship with the complete kits?

I believe that the Hinderburg tanks are 600 Gal. whereas the standard tanks are 400 Gal --- I think !!!  But it could be the standard tank is a 300 Gal and the Hinderburg tanks are 400 Gal.  Someone though, is sure to give us a correct number     The Airfix F.3 comes with the Hinderburg tanks, whereas the GR.1 and GR.4 Airfix kits come with the standard tanks.  At least the boxings I have of them that's the way they are.

[Daryl J.]

5th FIS Spittin' Kittens out of Minot AFB, but rather than the Aircraft Grey of the F-106, have it in NMF and the wide yellow lightning bolt filling most of the tail.   Could it carry in theory the Phoenix for the US market?

Perhaps it has been mentioned elsewhere, but use the USAF Arctic scheme and have a thin yellow cheat line separate the red and metal.

[Daryl J.]

Angel Interceptor

[GTX_Admin]

Cruise missile or SAM conversion mounted on launcher...

[Daryl J.]

Royal Norwegian Air Force. 

[Alvis 3.1]

1/48 TSR2= 1/350 attack sub.

:)

Alvis 3.1

[ChrisF]

I have the 1:48th kit in my stash and i do have some wild plans for it... involving actual electronics...   

I also went the route of picking up a Tonka on Ebay for stealing parts... :)

[GTX_Admin]

I have the 1:48th kit in my stash and i do have some wild plans for it... involving actual electronics...   

I also went the route of picking up a Tonka on Ebay for stealing parts... :)

What sort of electronics?

[smeds]

Tonka newbie question: What is the difference between the Hinderburg tanks and the ones that ship with the complete kits?

I believe that the Hinderburg tanks are 600 Gal. whereas the standard tanks are 400 Gal --- I think !!!  But it could be the standard tank is a 300 Gal and the Hinderburg tanks are 400 Gal.  Someone though, is sure to give us a correct number     The Airfix F.3 comes with the Hinderburg tanks, whereas the GR.1 and GR.4 Airfix kits come with the standard tanks.  At least the boxings I have of them that's the way they are.

Hindenburger tanks are 2250lt = 494.931 Gallons,

are Standard tanks 1500lt = 329.953 Gallons.

in the 3 years I worked on Tornado's, I never heard the 2250's refered to as 'Hindenburgers', we just called them 2250's.

[ChrisF]

I have the 1:48th kit in my stash and i do have some wild plans for it... involving actual electronics...   

I also went the route of picking up a Tonka on Ebay for stealing parts... :)

What sort of electronics?

That would be giving the game away but suffice to say im waiting for certain computer parts to come down to a reasonable level...   

Chris

[GTX_Admin]

Tease

[ChrisF]

Ok i'll give you another clue its definately gonna be a recon bird....

[ChernayaAkula]

Re-arranging the wings a bit.

[Scooterman]

Oh I LIKE THAT!!! 

[GTX_Admin]

That has to be built!

[deathjester]

Re-arranging the wings a bit.

Awesome!! - you have to do that - and in splinter camo!

[smeds]

I had exactly the same idea for one of my kits. Looks awesome, and yes, it needs to be in splinter camo, go for it mate

[GTX_Admin]

Random Idea: VTOL, STOVL OR ESTOL variant with bank of lift jets in fuselage.

[elmayerle]

Random Idea: VTOL, STOVL OR ESTOL variant with bank of lift jets in fuselage.

SOmething like the British equivalent of the Sukhoi T-6-1?

[ChernayaAkula]

No explanation. 

[mrvr6]

iv thought about that layout more than once and if i could get some suitable wings i would DEFFINATELY build it 
itd be the uk equivalent of the  berkut

[kitnut617]

And for some reason or other, I've got two of those Su-47 FSW kits which I've been wondering why I bought them.  Possible build coming up I think --   :)

[ChernayaAkula]

I've just checked the drawing again. I hoped the X-29 bits would be about twice the scale or bigger than the TSR.2 bits, but it appears the X-29 are only about 1.75 times the scale of the TSR.2. I had hoped for a bigger scale to use 1/72 X-29 wings on a 1/144 TSR.2 fuselage. With the smaller wings, it would look more "bomber", rather than the "fighter" looks it has now. Some creative cutting might help with that...

Here's another one, this time with F-117 tails. These might actually look cooler on a fighter-sized X-29.



Hmmm, something for the X-Men? 

[GTX_Admin]

Wicked!

[GTX_Admin]

Random idea:  TSR.2 derived executive jet...in similar vein as MiG-25 and F-106 derived designs.

[elmayerle]

Random idea:  TSR.2 derived executive jet...in similar vein as MiG-25 and F-106 derived designs.

Replace second seat with a passenger section ala' the F-106 proposal or just reconfigure to add more seats like the MiG-25 proposal?   I like the first approach better, myself.  I can just see an Eagle C.3 in Transport Command markings in that configuration (a little much, I'd reckon, for Royal Flight markings).

[GTX_Admin]

I was thinking of adding more seat - probably remove the avionics bay + stretch the fuselage.  The result won't be comfortable or even practical, but who cares...

[elmayerle]

I was thinking of adding more seat - probably remove the avionics bay + stretch the fuselage.  The result won't be comfortable or even practical, but who cares...

True.  I would imagine it would be for special VIP transport needs, only.  I've got a scheme for a three-seat, weather radar only, version of the F-20 for a similar courier role (with both tip tanks and underwing tanks for extreme range).  Still, such an Eagle C.3 would be something different to see and I still like the idea of putting it in Transport Command markings.

[GTX_Admin]

Re-arranging the wings a bit.

Already built:



See here for more.

[PR19_Kit]

Random idea:  TSR.2 derived executive jet...in similar vein as MiG-25 and F-106 derived designs.

How about this BOAC liveried Speedjet, appeared on the WhatIf SIG stand at Telford in 2011?  :)

You can't see the windows as they're hidden in the blue stripe, but they're there.

[raafif]

for those contemplating the scheme, an Air Transport Command Teaser Two ....

[raafif]

the day everything got swept forward ...

[KiwiZac]

I like it, but what if the outer panels on the mainplane were flipped UP, instead?...

Random idea:  TSR.2 derived executive jet...in similar vein as MiG-25 and F-106 derived designs.

How about this BOAC liveried Speedjet, appeared on the WhatIf SIG stand at Telford in 2011?  :)

You can't see the windows as they're hidden in the blue stripe, but they're there.

Now that's gorgeous. I love the paint scheme. I want more!

[GTX_Admin]

I have a 1/48 TSR-2 Meteor Sweeper Conversion for the Airfix TSR.2 (see below images).  I am thinking of doing it as a modern day satellite launcher using a retired TSR.2.

[The Big Gimper]

Found this on Facebook. Skybolts plus belly tank.

[elmayerle]

Holy "Max. Gross Weight" takeoff!  Still, I do love the menace it projects.

[GTX_Admin]

One from Clave:

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[The Big Gimper]

No need to post anything else Greg. You have reached nirvana.

[GTX_Admin]

Bah!  Its just a crappy TSR.2...

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[jcf]

 
https://hushkit.net/2021/03/03/could-the-cancelled-tsr-2-super-bomber-have-won-us-the-lost-eurovision-song-contest/

[Volkodav]

https://hushkit.net/2021/03/03/could-the-cancelled-tsr-2-super-bomber-have-won-us-the-lost-eurovision-song-contest/

 

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