Shin-Meiwa/ShinMaywa SS-2 (PS-1/US-1/US-2) flying boats/amphibians ...

[jcf]

A thread for ideas relating to the above listed critters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShinMaywa

Whiff airtanker WIP on the What-If section of the new Airtankers forum:
http://airtankersinscale.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fiction&action=display&thread=22

3-view of a schemed but not built passenger variant, from Der Flieger 12/1972:


The same issue of Der Flieger has a very nice multi-view drawing of the PS-1 that I will scan later.

[finsrin]

Four A400 engines.  Would be just right !

[GTX_Admin]

Does anyone produce a kit of these?

[Litvyak]

I seem to recall reading somewhere that Hasegawa did? Might be something I'd be interested in at some point if so.

[The Big Gimper]

I seem to recall reading somewhere that Hasegawa did? Might be something I'd be interested in at some point if so.

Fuji in 1/240.
Hasegawa in 1/72;

9 for sale on eBay

[RussC]

There is also one of those Gashapon or collectors kits of this amphibian out for a few years now. Pre-painted toy but very detailed.

[jcf]

Shinmaywa's pretty good website on their product:
http://www.shinmaywa.co.jp/english/guide/us2_index.htm

The Hasegawa kit dates from the '70s and was produced in both the flying boat
and amphibian versions. The kit is very good in outline and the level of detail
and raised panel lines reflect its age, both of which are IMHO non-issues.
 

[Jeffry Fontaine]

Shinmaywa's pretty good website on their product:
http://www.shinmaywa.co.jp/english/guide/us2_index.htm

The Hasegawa kit dates from the '70s and was produced in both the flying boat
and amphibian versions. The kit is very good in outline and the level of detail
and raised panel lines reflect its age, both of which are IMHO non-issues.
 

RPL are only an issue with people that like to complain about something where there is nothing to really complain about.  :)
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With a surplus of PS-1 and US-1/US-2 kits in the stash I am always interested in alternatives to what is in the box. 

How about a fire fighting tanker? 

U.S. Navy ASW patrol aircraft as a replacement for the P-5 Marlin? 

US Coast Guard SAR/WOD aircraft?

The Hasegawa P-5 Marlin kit provides markings for a French Navy Marlin so it would be easy enough to "convert" with different decals for an aircraft that was almost the same physical size. 

[jcf]

A firefighting conversion was tested in the mid-70s and it is an option on the current version of the US-2:

http://www.shinmaywa.co.jp/english/guide/us2_fire.htm

[Alvis 3.1]

I think I have three kicking around. I was thinking of a passenger variant, or maybe a firefighter replacement for the CL-415s. AWACs would be interesting as well.


Queen Charolette Airlines would have been my airline of choice for it. Hey, they flew Stranraers, so why not these?

Alvis 3.1

[M.A.D]

I would love to see a profile of a RAAF PS-1 in the ASW/MP role!! 

P.S. I'm sure Grumman had a licence to produce this aircraft!!

M.A.D

[GTX_Admin]

I would love to see a profile of a RAAF PS-1 in the ASW/MP role!! 

P.S. I'm sure Grumman had a licence to produce this aircraft!!

M.A.D

I am with you there. :)

[elmayerle]

Perhaps a modern update with engines and propellers in common with upgraded E-2s in Japanese service (I think upgraded Japanese E-2s are whif for now)?

[jcf]

The current US-2 is a modern, upgraded aircraft, development started in 1996, first flight was in 2003.
The engines are R-R AE2100J turning six-blade Dowty R414 props.

Four are in service in Japan, a fifth has been delivered and a sixth budgeted. They are also competing
for an Indian Navy requirement for nine SAR amphibians.

[Logan Hartke]

So lovely.  I'm so happy the day of the military flying boat isn't QUITE over.

Cheers,

Logan

[kitnut617]

Jon,  Are they comparable in size with a Tradewind?

[elmayerle]

The current US-2 is a modern, upgraded aircraft, development started in 1996, first flight was in 2003.
The engines are R-R AE2100J turning six-blade Dowty R414 props.

Four are in service in Japan, a fifth has been delivered and a sixth budgeted. They are also competing
for an Indian Navy requirement for nine SAR amphibians.

Okay, they are essentially using C-130J engines and propellers; I wonder if they'll similarly upgrade their P-3s for commonality?

[GTX_Admin]

The current US-2 is a modern, upgraded aircraft, development started in 1996, first flight was in 2003.
The engines are R-R AE2100J turning six-blade Dowty R414 props.

Four are in service in Japan, a fifth has been delivered and a sixth budgeted. They are also competing
for an Indian Navy requirement for nine SAR amphibians.

Okay, they are essentially using C-130J engines and propellers; I wonder if they'll similarly upgrade their P-3s for commonality?

After the problems with the engine change on the C-130J, I understand LM have been extremely reluctant to do similar with the P-3.

[The Big Gimper]

The current US-2 is a modern, upgraded aircraft, development started in 1996, first flight was in 2003.
The engines are R-R AE2100J turning six-blade Dowty R414 props.

Four are in service in Japan, a fifth has been delivered and a sixth budgeted. They are also competing
for an Indian Navy requirement for nine SAR amphibians.

This A/C needs to be added to the: " Mr. Manufacturer, would you please make this kit" list. It would look awesome parked beside an A400M, C-130J and an AN-70.

[jcf]

Robert, the SS-2 in its various forms is about 75% the size of the R3Y.

Carl, the old Hasegawa kit could be modified into the current version. 

p.s. for folks that don't know, Shin Meiwa/Shinaywa is the former Kawanishi company
who made the large flying boats for the IJN in the '30s and '40s.

[kitnut617]

Thanks Jon, I was wondering because I've read somewhere that Carlson Flying Tankers is looking at converting some C-130H's into water bombers (I think the Mars is to be retired) and as I've now got a 1/72 kit of the Tradewind and Mars, found they're about the same size.  So as there's this big flying boat commercially available right now, I wondered why Coulson didn't go this route for a new tanker.

[Logan Hartke]

So as there's this big flying boat commercially available right now, I wondered why Coulson didn't go this route for a new tanker.

Because they're ridiculously expensive.  It's the same reason why most bush operators don't replace their old C-46s and C-47s with perfectly viable CN-235s.  They're cost-prohibitive.  Many of these operators are working with little profit margin and frightening insurance premiums as it is.  Now increase the purchase price and replacement value by a factor of 10 or more for an asset that does almost the same job.

I'm with you.  I love the US-2.  I'd love to see a dozen more operators of it.  I think it'd be a great firebomber and a worthy replacement for the Mars.  That said, I don't think it's too viable.

Cheers,

Logan

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[Rickshaw]

I could the RAAF operating them out of Far North Queensland or the North West.