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Offline jcf

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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2013, 12:05:59 AM »
Not unusual, laminating up thicker assemblies from 3, 5 or 7 ply thick 'plywood' sheet
material was not an uncommon technique in the period, or up to today for that matter.
Especially when dealing with curved surfaces. Looking at the photos on the blog
they are showing a laminated assembly of eleven layers of 5-ply, with the 5-ply made
of very thin veneers, and that 5-ply base material would be press-made. British
standard veneer thicknesses in the WWII period ranged from .01" - .05" in thickness,
so you could have one type of 5-ply that was .05" thick and another that was .25" thick.
'Twould depend on what was required. Note also that these plywoods were strictly veneer
sandwiches, not the mix of veneers and thicker cut filler material found in what most
people think of as plywood.

Anyhow most specialty plywood was then and is still today 'hand-made' in the sense that
the veneers are graded, picked, and laid in the sandwich by hand before the whole layer
cake is put in the press. More automated processes are used for standard costruction grade
stuff, however there is still a lot of hand work involved.

All this talk of plywood makes me think of a pet peeve ...   :icon_fsm:
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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2013, 12:17:59 AM »
*chuckle* I've seen a filmstrip of the making of the plywood layups used for the Mosquito fuselage used as a teaching aid for a class on composite materials.  Composites = high-tech plywood.

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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2013, 01:42:00 AM »
The PM model Horten I have is going to be a flying sub. It will be tasked with intercepting UFO's for SHADO, when they decide to pull a fast one and dive into the sea.Armament will be rail guns, two of ,2 missiles and 2 torpedoes. The jet engines will close themselves up during a swim and a water jet system will power it under water.Auxiliary rockets may be fitted to get the aircraft up and out of the water vertically, to an altitude where the jet engines are up to operational power. An Arado E 555, could also get this modification too, but be based at sea.
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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2013, 02:19:06 AM »
Not unusual, laminating up thicker assemblies from 3, 5 or 7 ply thick 'plywood' sheet
material was not an uncommon technique in the period, or up to today for that matter.

I though plywood was plywood and all made by machine presses. I guess they didn't have a handy LuftwaffeDepot nearby?

Offline Daryl J.

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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2013, 11:47:07 PM »
The Dragon kit is about the right size for painting up as a traditional boomerang.   :icon_music:
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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2013, 12:07:22 AM »
The Dragon 1/48th two-seater is being turned into a Batplane with KM-1 ejection seats
and flat-panel displays.
Da Bat don't do lawn chairs and steam gauges.  ;D

Paint scheme is still TBD.
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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2013, 12:38:02 AM »
  ;D
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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2013, 03:50:35 PM »
The National Air and Space Museum has four blog entries with detailed pictures on the pre-restoration work being done on the Horten Ho IX. The posts have some great, recent pictures of the center section and wings (and one post war pic with the wings on!) as well as a "map" showing the conditions of the metal and plywood. Considering that it's almost 70 years old and made mostly from "home made" plywood, it's in great shape.


Thanks for finding these. Been a 229 fan for a long time. Good to see the last original getting treatment and maybe heading for display at last.

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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2013, 04:45:06 AM »
Speaking of anachronisms, too bad there is not a decent 1/48 scale Triceratops or Ankylosaur.   They could be used as harnassed tugs for a bright wood  and NMF version of the 229.  ;D
 
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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2013, 04:55:59 AM »
Tamiya does some good 35th dinosaurs.  Here's a few in Luftwaffe schemes .....

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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2013, 09:59:56 AM »
Tamiya does some good 35th dinosaurs.  Here's a few in Luftwaffe schemes .....

Excellent concept raafif ... aber das ist nicht ein Dinosaurier, ist es ein pterosaurier!  ;D
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Offline Daryl J.

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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2013, 10:14:00 AM »
Fliegersaurs!   ;)
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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2016, 10:30:53 AM »
Might as well share the inspiration that brought me here - http://danielsimon.com/hydra-flying-wing/

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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2016, 10:40:32 AM »
Welcome to BTS.
Whoa,,, hey is the Hydra Flying Wing cool or what?   8)

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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2016, 12:06:19 PM »
This is the 1:72 scale Revell kit.
I gave it a full cockpit bath and replaced the nose gear with something I felt was more appropriate for a production machine.
I kept the same angle on the body when sitting on the ground because I believe this was to facilitate better take off parameters (other jets had tales).
I now have the 1:32 scale SWS kit to build and planning on building it to a similar configuration.

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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2022, 03:57:35 PM »
Ho-229 with proper fuselage (bomber)


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Re: Horten Flying Wings ideas and inspiration
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2022, 06:36:03 PM »
Nice design, looks Luft 46 right  :smiley: