Author Topic: Falklands / Malvinas Air War Scenes - Bloody Thursday - 27th May 1982  (Read 19705 times)

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My 1982 what-if scenario

In my Falkland/Malvinas war scenario there are some changes to both countries and what equipment they used.
The major differences affect Argentina.

Argentina
In this scenario, Argentina is a non-aligned country with close relations to the non-aligned bloc and specially (for this scenario) with the Soviet Union.
Argentina is not a Communist country and maintains also good relations with the Western Bloc.
Argentina is one of the main (perhaps even the major) partner of the USSR in South America.
These relations are reflected on the equipment used by the armed forces of Argentina that are equipped with both Western (particularly French) and mainly with Soviet hardware.
Due to the fact that Argentina is the closest partner of the USSR, the government of the South American country is able to purchase the most modern Soviet equipment, sometimes even better than the versions supplied to some Warsaw Pact countries.
Being able to access some of the most advanced Soviet equipment, the Argentina Armed Forces began a re-equipment program in the late 1960ís that extended to the late 70ís and early 80ís.
The Air Force and the navy are equipped with modern aircraft and, in the case of the navy a force of two aircraft carriers: the ARA Veinticinco de Mayo (a CATOBAR equipped with western aircraft- namely the Dassault Super Etendard ) and the ARA Mar de Plata (a Kiev class aircraft carrier equipped with the Yak-38 Forger).
At the time of the conflict, the Argentina Armed Forces are a relatively modern and sizeable force, equipped to fight a limited conflict with almost any country in the world.

UK
The armed forces of the UK are mainly equipped to fight a hypothetical war in Europe against the Warsaw Pact, but also to maintain British presence around the world.
More relevant to this scenario, the UK maintains a respectful force of aircraft carriers and amphibious assault ships.
The Royal navy is equipped with2 of the older (but modernized) Audacious class CATOBAR aircraft carriers; these aircraft carriers have an air wing equipped with the McDonnell-Douglas F-4O, Phantom F.3 (as the main Fleet defense interceptor) and the Blackburn Buccaneer S.3.
The Royal Navy also has 2 amphibious assault ships (of the Oceanic Class) equipped with Sea Harriers (of the RN) and Harriers (of the Royal Marines and, for this mission, RAF) along some transport, assault and ASW helicopters.
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Re: Falklands / Malvinas Aerial War Scenes
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 02:21:11 AM »
15th of May 1982 Ė First VTOL vs. VTOL aircraft dogfight

In 1976, Argentina negotiated another important arms deal with the Soviet Union.
Among the new items purchased were the first VTOL Jets to equip the Comando de Aviaciůn Naval (COAN) of Armada Argentina, the Yakovlev YaK-38 Forgers.
The YaK-38s were brought to serve aboard the new Aircraft Carrier ARA Mar de Plata (a Kiev class ship).
Following the Invasion of the Falklands/Malvinas Islands, the ARA Mar de Plata and its air wing were deployed to the surrounding waters of those islands and began mounting CAP and reconnaissance missions.
With the eminent arrival of the British Fleet, some of the Forgers were forward deployed to land and began to operate from the island Air base.
Usually the Forgers operated in pairs and were under strict Ground Control command.
In the mid of May, the British task force was planning to launch a major  aerial attack on the Argentinian held island positions; one of the first stage was an early morning reconnaissance mission to be flown by two Sea Harriers.
Under heavy jamming, the two Sea Harriers manage to arrive at the islands undetected and started their reconnaissance mission.
At about the same time some Argentinian aircraft were also conducting patrol missions, among them a pair of YAK-38.
Due to the heavy jamming, the Forgers had trouble getting informationís from the GC command and decided to abort their mission and return to the Air Base.
The two flights met each other and a rapid dogfight followed.
Although each of the opposing jets was able to achieve some superior positions to fire, the opponentís agility prevented it from being shot down.
Due to their limited fuel, the Forgers were forced to break and the Sea Harriers were not able to pursue them because they were warned that some other Argentinian fighters (possible MiG-23s) were heading that way.
As so, the first VTOL vs. VTOL dogfight finished without any victories.
Following this encounter, the Yak-38s were removed from CAP missions and were only used in CAS missions until the end of the war.


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Re: Falklands / Malvinas Aerial War Scenes
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 02:25:51 AM »
That is some stunning artwork!
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 02:45:45 AM »
Thank you.
Some more soon ... ;)

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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 05:47:40 AM »
That's lovely, JP!  Well done!

Cheers,

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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 06:29:29 AM »
Very nice!  I realize the Harrier and Forger only vaguely resemble one another, but if the conflict were to wear on, might one side or the other institute the use of recognition markings of some sort?
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 05:54:09 PM »
Good point.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 07:57:41 PM »
Yes, they started using recognition marks right just after this incident... ;)

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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2012, 11:50:14 PM »
Cool!

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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2012, 03:05:56 AM »
Excellent work, JP! Love how those Argentine roundels look against that dark blue!

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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 03:17:39 AM »
Looking forward to the next installment

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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2012, 06:06:40 AM »
Thank you all for your comments. :)

The next installment is called "South Atlantic FurBall"... ;)

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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2012, 03:39:12 AM »
Quote from: JP Vieira
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The next installment is called "South Atlantic FurBall"... ;)

I hope this doesn't mean you thought of Royal Marine Attack Sheep too...
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2012, 06:50:13 PM »
Quote from: JP Vieira
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The next installment is called "South Atlantic FurBall"... ;)

I hope this doesn't mean you thought of Royal Marine Attack Sheep too...
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Ah... I don't think so :)

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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2012, 06:55:55 PM »
Hello

18th of May South Atlantic Fur Ball

With the approach of the UK Task Force the aerial activity over and around the Islands intensified.
The day of 18t of May was one of the most active of the entire war and certainly saw one of the biggest aerial engagements in the conflict.
That day started with several patrol launched by each of the opposing sides.
The British forces sent out several Phantom CAPs from the Aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal that were further extended until reaching within close proximity to the Islands.
The Argentinians also began with reconnaissance flights carried out by some Boeing 707 escorted by MiG-23; these reconnaissance flights were launched from bases on the mainland.
From the islands the Argentinian force launched some CAPs carried out by MiG-21 s.
The aerial engagements started when the Phantoms managed to ambush a pair of MiG-21 and shoot done one of them; alerted by this engagement, the Boeing 707 of the AAF (acting also as command and control aircraft) directed the MiG-23 to the area.
One of the Phantoms was shot down with a BVR missile (AA-7) fired by the MiG-23.
At this time more and more fighters from each side were drawn in to the fight.
Joining the initial Phantoms, more F-4 were launched form the HMS Ark Royal and one of these managed also to score a BVR shot down of one of the MiG-23; also some Sea Harriers joined the fight, launching from the two Oceanic Class Amphibious assault ships.
As the opposing fighters approached each other, the fight turned into a close quarter dogfight and some 15 British fighters (both Phantoms and Harriers) and some 18 Argentinian aircraft (MiG-23, MiG-21 and Mirage III) joined the fight.
The opposing fighters mixed and soon a fur ball ensued with a number of 1vs 1 engagements.
In the end, 4 British fighters were shot down (2 Phantoms and 2 Harriers) and some 3 to 5 were damaged (but managed to return to their ships); On the Argentinian side, 4 fighters were shot down (one MiG-23, 2 MiG-21 and one Mirage III), two claimed but not confirmed (supposedly 2 MiG-21s) and 1 damaged (a Mirage III that had to make an emergency landing on the Island).
With this heavy toll paid by each of the opposing sides, extra care was taken by each foe in future aerial operations.


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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2012, 09:26:47 PM »
This is lovely.  You're really loving this Falklands GB, aren't you?

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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2012, 02:04:16 AM »
Wicked!  I like the look of these scenes - they could easily be framed and put in a mess.
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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2012, 08:20:52 AM »
Amazing pictures.

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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2012, 08:14:56 PM »
Thank you all for your comments.
This has been real fun and allows me to experiment with some new  working methods.
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2012, 08:16:36 PM »
Operation Keyhole April 9th 1982

One of the most important tasks for the British Task Force was the collection of reliable data regarding the Argentinian forces deployed on the Islands.
Among the methods used by the British, reconnaissance aircraft, including SIGINT and ELINT, were of vital importance.
One of the first British aircraft to come near the Islands was the Nimrod R.3, a special variant of the known patrol aircraft.
Early on the campaign, two of these aircraft were forward deployed to Ascension Island and started conducting data gathering mission around the Falkland/Malvinas Islands.
Such missions were codenamed Operation Keyhole and were carried out by the Nimrod R.3 from Ascension Island; these aircraft, with tanker support, were able to come near the Islands and collect some data.
The early missions were deemed a success and more were carried out on the following days.
All missions were flown at night.
However, in one of those missions, one of the aircraft was almost intercepted by MiG-21 based on the Islands; the interception was only avoid because of intense jamming(either by the Nimrod R.3 or another British aircraft that was on the area) and the Migs lost contact and had to return to the base.
Following this incident, all mission carried out by the Nimrod R.3s were always accompanied by escorting fighters.




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Ooooo...a dark Nimrod!!!  Me likey!!! :-*
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

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Great stuff!

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Thank you.
Perhaps one or two more to come... ;)

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Carrier AEW Aircraft

The UK forces used mainly two aircraft types on this campaign for the AEW/Command and Control missions.
The first one was the long-range land based Nimrod R.3, which alongside its SIGINT and ELINT missions was also used in C3 role.
The other aircraft was the carrier based Britten-Norman Vigilant.
The BN Vigilant was a special version of the Defender; it had a strengthened fuselage, stronger and retractable landing gear, more powerful engines, besides all the avionics needed to its new mission.
When entering service this aircraft was meant as a stopgap between the retirement of the Fairey Gannet AEW and the introduction of the Grumman E-2 Hawkeye.
When the war started there were already some crews training on the Hawkeye in the USA; however as no aircraft was delivered the RN had to go to war with its interim aircraft.
Despite some performance handicaps, the vigilant force performed well and was even the subject of a minor upgrade program once the war was over.


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The other aircraft was the carrier based Britten-Norman Vigilant.

Just awesome.

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JP, some really nice work you've been doing on this project.  :)
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Oh..that is nice.
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Thank you all.
Perhaps another one today...;)

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The raid on Ascension Island
2nd-3rd April 1982


In the late 1970ís the Argentinian armed forces went through a modernization and expansion program.
Most of the new hardware bought was from Soviet origin.
Among the equipment for the Air Force, none was more controversial that the Tupolev Tu-16.
The Soviet Union delivered a total of 5 standard tu-16s, alongside 3 tanker versions.
Ostensible, the regular Tu-16s were bought not as bombers but as long-range patrol and reconnaissance aircraft.
Either these aircraft were standard bomber or where modified to that standard latter, the fact was that by the early 1980ís they were used in exercises in the bomber role.
One of the main aspects of the Argentinian plan to invade the Falklands/Malvinas Islands was to delay the response of the UK armed forces for as long as possible.
In that sense, disabling the UK bases on Ascension Island was deemed as crucial.
The Island was host to forces of the RAF (Patrol aircraft) and RN.
In the Argentinian arsenal, only the Tu-16 force could do that mission with any chance of success.
For that mission, 3 bomber versions supported by 2 tankers were designated; the bomber aircraft were stripped of almost all non-essential equipment and left with a reduced bomb load; the tanker version
The mission package had also the assistance of one Boeing 707 that acted as command and control aircraft, not only detecting enemy activity but also guiding the bombers to their targets.
The aircraft took off from BAM Palomar, near Buenos Aires, at the night of 2nd of April expecting to arrive at the target around dawn of the 3rd.
The in leg of the mission was uneventful, with the aircraft refueling (both the Tu-16 bombers and the Boeing 707), the last one just around the early hours of the day; after that, the tankers turned around and the other aircraft headed to their destination.
One of the Tu-16 attack first with cruise missiles and was followed by the other two that launched free fall bombs.
The damage inflicted was more noticeable on the naval facilities; the Air Base was not put out of action and only one aircraft parked was destroyed; the runaway was hit by some bombs but the damage was small.
Some communications and radar facilities were destroyed as were some fuel reservoirs.
As stated, the naval facilities took the heavier toll and needed extensive repairing.
Having completed their mission both the Tu-16 and the Boeing 707 turned around and headed to a pre-arrangement point to perform a new air-to-air refueling.
What followed next what was certainly one of the most bizarre episodes of this conflict and even perhaps of the entire history of air warfare.
As the airplanes were moving away, the Boeing crew alerted the other planes, that an aircraft had managed to take off from Ascension and was heading in their direction.
As no reports were known of fighter planes stationed at the time at the islands, this caused a lot of puzzling to the Argentinian crews.
With fuel low and the need to meet with the refueling planes on schedule, the Boeing commander ordered to all planes to continue with their flight path.
A few minutes later, the mystery revealed itself when the tail gunner of one of the Tu-16 spotted an approaching aircraft and identified it as a British Nimrod MP aircraft.
The Nimrod was stationed at Ascension and was being fuelled and prepared to take off on a maritime patrol mission when the attack started; having managed to escape the bombing, it was decided to arm it with AAMs and gave chase to the Argentinian aircraft.
The Nimrod managed to launch two missiles; one of them was launched at the limit of its flight enveloped and did not lock on to any target; the other one locked on, but some evasive maneuvers and the deployment of chaff managed to divert to missile just enough so as it would not impact the target aircraft; this missile exploded near the aircraft and cause some damaged to one of the Tu-16.
With the concentration of defensive fire by the Tu-16 tail gunners and with no more AAMs to fire, the Nimrod crew turn the aircraft around and headed back to Ascension.
Having managed to meet the tankers, the Argentinian aircraft headed to their Air Base; however one of the Tu-16 had to divert to Brazil, due to the damaged inflict by the AAM explosion. This incident would cause some tension between both countries.
Although the damaged to Ascension was not crippling to the war effort of the British it had two major positive effects to the Argentinian side; first it slowed down the buildup of the UK forces and offered the Argentinian a little more time to consolidate its defenses; secondly, it forced the UK forces to station some fighters and SAM forces on Ascension as a deterrent to further Argentinian incursions and thus preventing those same equipment to be committed to the Falklands/Malvinas TO.



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^ The best so far! Also a little bit worrying!  :o

Agreed.  Always been a fan of the Badger.  I think it gets short shrift for Cold War bombers.

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Wow you've really taken this and run with it, JP! While I like all your profiles, I think the Nimrod is my favorite. It's great having the recon side of the story told too.

Outstanding!!!

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Hello
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Bloody Thursday - 27th May 1982

A week after the major confrontation between the carriers, both sides again opposed each other in one of the major air-naval operations of the entire war.
Although the operations of the carriers of both sides had taken some impediments, neither of the carriers were put out of action and continue to operate.
 The day known as Bloody Thursday (27th May) resulted from the wishes of both sides to inflict a major blow to the others ability to wage war; from the UK side, the objective was  to disable the ability of the Argentinian Navy to continue to operate around the Islands; from the Argentinian side there was the objective to inflict such damage to the Royal Navy as to forces the UK forces to postponed any plan to stage a landing on the Islands.
The day started with a coordinated attack from aircraft from the two British aircraft carriers against two groups of surface vessels operating around the waters of the islands; these attacks were conducted by Buccaneers with the escort of the Phantoms.
The first phase of the operation were several air attacks made by Harriers of the amphibious assault groups against targets on the islands; these attacks also had the objective of diverting Argentinian fighters and pulled them away from the area were the Phantom and Buccaneers would performe their missions.
By the early hours of the day, several attacks were made by the Harriers against land targets on the Islands; at the same time several CAP missions were also flown by the Sea Harriers.  These attacks were successful in drawing in almost all the Island-based Argentinian fighters; several engagements were fought between the attacking and defending aircraft.
As these attacks were made, the Phantoms and Buccaneers were launched from the carriers and began attacking several surface vessels of the Argentinian Navy; the buccaneers used both guided missiles and bombs to attack the ships.



With these simultaneous operations, the Argentinians had to split their fighters and soon reinforcements were called in, both from the carrier ARA 25 de Mayo (Mirage F-1MA) and from the bases on the Mainland (MiG-23 and Mirage III).
At the same time, The Argentinians decided to take the chance to launch attacks against the ships of the British task force, with the main objectives being to force some British aircraft to abort their planned attack mission to defend their ships and also to inflict as much damage as possible to the task force.
The Argentinian plan called for the Island based-fighters to engage the attacking Harriers and also their Sea Harriers escorts (mainly used were the MiG-21 and MiG-19); the Mainland-based aircraft (MiG-23, Mirage III) and carrier based aircraft (Super Etendard and Mirage F-1MA), were assigned to engage the Phantoms and Buccaneers and also to attack all the possible British ships.




In the end of the day when the operations dwindled, a heavier toll had been paid from both sides.
The major implication for both sides from this terrible day was the postponement of any major air-naval operations for several days.
The Argentinian Navy lost 2 patrol ships, a corvette and fast-attack craft, sunk by the British aircraft; there was also damaged to another patrol ship and 2 frigates; The Argentinian Air Force lost 5 aircraft (a MiG-23, 2 Mirage III,  1 Mig-19 and a Il-38 Patrol aircraft) and had several aircraft damaged.
On the British side the result was also worrying; the Royal Navy lost a frigate, a landing ship and a tanker; one of the amphibious assault ships also sustained damaged; on the air assets sides, there was the loss of 2 Buccaneers, one Phantom and 2 Harriers and 1 Sea Harrier.

As both sides retreated to regroup and repair, it was evident that neither side could carry on with their main objectives for some days to come.
The Argentinian forces had to reinforce their naval and air forces deployed to the Islands with assets drawn from the mainland; the British had to wait for ships and aircraft to arrive from Ascension Island and even form the UK.
Bloody Thursday serve to definitely show that, both sides of this war, were not willing to give up without putting up a ferocious fight.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2012, 03:01:24 PM by JP Vieira »

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I love these action shots!  They look great!

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Ditto!
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

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But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Love the action shots! The Bucc doesn't have to worry about being hit. It'll just bulldoze that flak out of the way!  :icon_jedi:

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Thank you all for your comments.
This has been great fun and really help me to improve some skills and techniques regarding composition and other working methods.

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Thank you; perhaps I will do some more... been experimenting with some new time-reducing working methods and perhpas will produce some more of these.