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Offline robunos

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'Black Baron' IRBM
« on: January 07, 2023, 03:24:40 AM »
Okay . . .
For this Build, the 'What-If', is that that when the United Kingdom decide to build a ballistic missile to replace the V-Bombers, instead of effectively copying the US Atlas, a design based on Black Knight / Black Arrow technology is pursued . . .
More when it happens . . .


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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2023, 06:49:27 AM »
 :smiley:
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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2023, 06:17:25 AM »

Okay . . .
So, to build this model I'll be using this kit,





I acquired it for another project that didn't go ahead, so let's see what we can make of it . . .
The main part of the kit are the two halves of the main body,





there's a bit of warpage, so some strong glue and tape / clamping will be required. But first there is some internal structure to be added. These are the parts before being worked on,





after 'modification',








and then after installation.





Then I glued the two body halves together, with strong glue and tape.





While that was drying down, I worked on the nose cone. I was just going to glue it to the top of the rocket, but then I decided to make it removable, so I made a base from one of the many inside pieces left over(the original kit is designed to open, so you can see the internal structures).





This was then glued on to the nose cone.





Next I looked at the rocket nozzle. As it stood, I thought it was too big and needed reducing in size. So I marked it up,





before cutting it down, and sanding it to remove the shiny texture.





Again using some of the internal parts, I made up an engine mount. I made turbopump exhausts from some Evergreen tube I had.





When the body was completely dry, I added some plastic strip at top and bottom, this was to cover some gaps where the two body halves would have hinged together in the original kit . . .


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Next step is to add some detail to the body . . .
That's All For Now, Stay Tuned . . .


cheers,
Robin.














« Last Edit: January 11, 2023, 06:20:05 AM by robunos »
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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2023, 09:07:38 AM »
Nice work, so far! That's an ancient kit, too.

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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2023, 09:42:20 PM »
Quality craftsmanship on display. 

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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2023, 12:18:17 AM »
Cool! I like it!

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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2023, 03:45:19 AM »
Thanks for the praise, Gents, but it's just me sticking bits of plastic together . . .   :-[
Anyway, I forgot to mention, the original kit has been Scale-O-Rama-ed to 1/72 which means the Black Baron works out to about the same size as a Redstone or Atlas . . .


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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2023, 04:27:44 AM »
Appreciate detailed coverage of build with Evergreen touches.   :smiley:
Had sister kit Jupiter C which was warped sooo bad threw it out.
see attached

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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2023, 10:53:39 AM »
Scale-o-rame is looking fab ... and good call on making the nose detachable  :smiley:

... but it's just me sticking bits of plastic together ...

And it's just us getting vicarious thrills by watching  ;)
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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2023, 11:27:55 AM »
The various bits look good!

Bill - I had a reissue of the Hawk Jupiter-C when I was a kid and I remember it was an ill fitting kit back then.

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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2023, 04:29:30 AM »
 :smiley: :smiley:

The planned but unbuilt Black Knight II was to have had the body diameter increased to 4'6" (54") which,
as it happens, was the diameter of the 2nd stage of Black Arrow.

 ;)

Drawings:
From Sea to Air: The Heritage of Sam Saunders
A.E. Tagg & R.L. Wheeler, Crossprint 1989
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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2023, 05:33:30 AM »
I have that book, and I consulted those drawings when planning this build.
In terms of the Back Story :-
"It was recognised from the start of the programme that the 'Black Baron' had the potential to be used as a satellite launcher, thus the nose of the vehicle was designed to be able to accommodate a satellite payload, as an alternative to a warhead."


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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2023, 01:18:26 AM »
Looks like an interesting book - any reviews of it?
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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2023, 05:37:36 AM »
Looks like an interesting book - any reviews of it?

The two books, From Sea to Air and From River to Sea combined are probably the
most complete history of Sam Saunders and the companies that bore his name yet
written, and most likely won't be superseded any time soon.

I recommend them, but be aware that the writing style is of the old school continuous
narrative type and the layout isn't particularly user friendly with the text not aligning
very well with the illustrated sections. Even though they were published in 1989 and
1993, respectively, they're not as clean as more modern books.

From Sea to Air
https://www.addall.com/SuperRare/UsedPage.html?id=230114133404144570

From River to Sea
https://www.addall.com/SuperRare/UsedPage.html?id=230114133141956438
« Last Edit: January 15, 2023, 06:46:54 AM by jcf »
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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2023, 01:19:08 AM »
Ta
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Offline robunos

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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2023, 01:44:30 AM »

Okay . . . another brief update, I've added some details to the model, nothing too excessive,





Now it's off to the Paint Shop . . .


cheers,
Robin.

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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2023, 01:46:58 AM »
Looks like an interesting book - any reviews of it?


Can't speak to 'From River to Sea', but I second the recommendation of 'From Sea to Air'. IMHO, it's better than the Putnam's book . . .


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Robin.
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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2023, 12:35:32 AM »

Okay . . .
Despite it's name, the 'Black Baron' is mostly white . . .





Next step is to sort out some decals, and finish off the engine.


That's All For Now, Stay Tuned . . .


cheers,
Robin.

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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2023, 11:59:27 PM »

nd we're done !
Black Baron IRBM, RAF, 'somewhere in England', 1964 . . .













More images in the Gallery Thread.
That's All, Folks . . .


cheers,
Robin.
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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2023, 02:54:32 AM »
That turned out very nicely! Well done!

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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2023, 03:09:31 AM »
 :smiley:
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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2023, 03:17:56 AM »
Nice one !  :smiley: :smiley:

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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2023, 08:12:26 AM »
Great result, especially considering the source kit.

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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2023, 08:53:05 AM »
Concur! Very nice build  :smiley:
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Re: 'Black Baron' IRBM
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2023, 01:52:36 PM »
 :smiley:
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