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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Land => Topic started by: Maverick on February 06, 2012, 08:08:10 AM

Title: Paper Panzers
Post by: Maverick on February 06, 2012, 08:08:10 AM
Although there are a couple of seperate threads regarding some German projects, a single thread of discussion regarding "Paper Panzers" seems warranted (to me at least).

To kick off, a link to a rather comprehensive site dealing with the E Series. (Auf Deutsch naturlich!).

http://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/fotosammlung/thumbnails.php?album=25 (http://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/fotosammlung/thumbnails.php?album=25)

Regards,

John
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on November 12, 2012, 03:38:57 PM
Missing Lynx member Yau-Hang has "Frankensteined a 1946 vehicle" (http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1352519301/Frankensteined+a+1946+vehicle) which in this case was an E-100 Uber Panzer that has a tail gunner position mounted behind the turret. 

See more of this by clicking on the html or the image below.

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd290/yman66/E-100/CIMG3982.jpg) (http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1352519301/Frankensteined+a+1946+vehicle)
(Image source: Yau-Hang/PhotoBucket via Missing Lynx forums (http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1352519301/Frankensteined+a+1946+vehicle))

The 3,7 cm FlaK mounted on a platform behind and attached to the turret is an interesting solution to the air threat problem. 
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 12, 2012, 04:15:49 PM
That's brilliant!
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on November 12, 2012, 04:38:31 PM
The model turned out rather nice and with all of that surface area to work with it looks busy enough. 

I think the 3,7 cm Flak could have been better utilized as a coaxial weapon replacing the 7,5 cm KwK next to the main gun. 
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 12, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
Isn't it a 20mm cannon?
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on November 12, 2012, 04:48:31 PM
Nope, it is a 3,7 cm FlaK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.7_cm_Flak_18/36/37/43) mounted behind the turret.  As to which version, it looks most likely to be the 3,7 cm Flak 43 model (http://www.lonesentry.com/ordnance/3-7-cm-flak-43-antiaircraft-gun.html). 


Wikipedia - 3,7 cm Flak 18/36/37/43 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.7_cm_Flak_18/36/37/43)

Lone Sentry - Catalog of Enemy Ordnance, Originally Published by U.S. Office of Chief of Ordnance, 19453,7 cm Flak 43 (http://www.lonesentry.com/ordnance/3-7-cm-flak-43-antiaircraft-gun.html)
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 12, 2012, 04:50:20 PM
I was just going by his description.
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: Logan Hartke on November 12, 2012, 09:06:27 PM
Nope, it is a 3,7 cm FlaK ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.7_cm_Flak_18/36/37/43[/url]) mounted behind the turret.  As to which version, it looks most likely to be the 3,7 cm Flak 43 model ([url]http://www.lonesentry.com/ordnance/3-7-cm-flak-43-antiaircraft-gun.html[/url]). 

Wikipedia - 3,7 cm Flak 18/36/37/43 ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.7_cm_Flak_18/36/37/43[/url])

Lone Sentry - Catalog of Enemy Ordnance, Originally Published by U.S. Office of Chief of Ordnance, 19453,7 cm Flak 43 ([url]http://www.lonesentry.com/ordnance/3-7-cm-flak-43-antiaircraft-gun.html[/url])


Yep, definitely a 3.7cm looking at it.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: Old Wombat on November 12, 2012, 10:20:15 PM
I'm with you Jeff on replacing the 75 mm with the 37 mm as a coaxial weapon, even a 20 mm would be better. The 75 is just too big with too low a rate-of-fire for an effective coaxial gun.

Mind you, I wouldn't want to be the AA gunners, either. That'd be a very nasty place to be on a battlefield with artillery, tanks & aircraft to deal with. :o

Cheers,

Guy. :icon_music:
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: Feldmarschall Zod on December 01, 2012, 07:47:37 PM
There is also the VK series of tanks. I have the Trumpeter VK 30.01 in the stash. It comes with the 7.5cm L/24. I plan on adding a longer barrel to mine.

I like the camo on this.
http://cs1.gamemodding.net/posts/2012-11/1352823676_GameModding2012-11-0717-59-44-63.jpg (http://cs1.gamemodding.net/posts/2012-11/1352823676_GameModding2012-11-0717-59-44-63.jpg)

Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 02, 2012, 03:21:23 AM
I have to ask:  just what is that scheme supposed to camouflage you with?
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on December 02, 2012, 03:27:42 AM
I have to ask:  just what is that scheme supposed to camouflage you with?
A very large shrubbery?
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: Dr. YoKai on December 02, 2012, 03:34:25 AM
I have to ask:  just what is that scheme supposed to camouflage you with?

 Zombie horde cammo - you blend right in.

 I actually like it, but its pretty hard to see where it would be practical.
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on December 02, 2012, 03:41:53 AM
I have to ask:  just what is that scheme supposed to camouflage you with?

Zombie horde cammo - you blend right in.

I actually like it, but its pretty hard to see where it would be practical.

Schizophrenic Splinter Pattern?

Reminds me of the camouflage schemes applied to some of the early tanks in the first world war. 
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 02, 2012, 04:22:02 AM
I have to ask:  just what is that scheme supposed to camouflage you with?

 Zombie horde cammo - you blend right in.

 I actually like it, but its pretty hard to see where it would be practical.

Ha, ha!!!  That's about the first thing I thought of as well
Title: Re: Paper Panzers
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 02, 2012, 04:24:39 AM
Reminds me of the camouflage schemes applied to some of the early tanks in the first world war.


Yes, but it didn't matter back then - they were all black and white and shades of grey... ;)

(http://www.reoiv.com/images/random/dadbandwandcolour.jpg)