Beyond The Sprues
Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Land => Topic started by: Cpl Punishment on April 12, 2016, 11:30:26 AM
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E-50 ausf B
I am taking a short break on the E-79 to avoid "burn out".
So in the meantime I am working on my E-50 ausf B.
I needed a Upper Hull to start with.....
So Molded an Upper hull from MC and when I had a cast of that ,
I detailed it out by hanging the engine deck for mine,
removing the fenders, and opening the hatches.
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02910_zpsckj9n6gx.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02910_zpsckj9n6gx.jpg.html)
I then wanted to replicate this engine deck
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02880_zpsgcipilwn.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02880_zpsgcipilwn.jpg.html)
so I started by cutting out the engine deck, then the roof where the turret ring is.
I moved the turret ring forward, and started modifying the engine deck.
I made the cuts to the front vents, added strip styrene, and added sheet styrene to the back.
once this was all detailed, I glued it all together.
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02925_zpssxfpdrck.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02925_zpssxfpdrck.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02930_zpside4jjmy.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02930_zpside4jjmy.jpg.html)
I then turned my attention to making the turret
I took a cast of my Teufels Amboss turret sand away the details and the sides to get the general shape.
Once this started to take shape I laid it on the upper hull to see how it looked.
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02927_zpsboliuoe1.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02927_zpsboliuoe1.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02926_zpszan3qcbf.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02926_zpszan3qcbf.jpg.html)
I then began adding the details
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02947_zpsaocae7wj.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02947_zpsaocae7wj.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02950_zpszskkewvr.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02950_zpszskkewvr.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02949_zpsfvtifr76.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02949_zpsfvtifr76.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02948_zpswoif4pgg.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02948_zpswoif4pgg.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02952_zpsa454uxmv.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02952_zpsa454uxmv.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02953_zps2ojovyop.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02953_zps2ojovyop.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02954_zpsrb5ooqt9.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02954_zpsrb5ooqt9.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02955_zpsiqhtoxxf.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02955_zpsiqhtoxxf.jpg.html)
I then turned my attention to the choice of guns for it
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02956_zpsduv6dmhz.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02956_zpsduv6dmhz.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02957_zpsrlfzlcvd.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02957_zpsrlfzlcvd.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02982_zpslapqa80k.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02982_zpslapqa80k.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02983_zpsffimnxwk.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02983_zpsffimnxwk.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02984_zps02oxzkhm.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02984_zps02oxzkhm.jpg.html)
after this I decided to give the turret a coat of primer to bring out any flaws before molding.
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02968_zpspldeafuv.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02968_zpspldeafuv.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02969_zpsnnafn9oa.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02969_zpsnnafn9oa.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02970_zps18ttce0b.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02970_zps18ttce0b.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02971_zpsyfxstogm.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02971_zpsyfxstogm.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02972_zpsqtrrvnxu.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02972_zpsqtrrvnxu.jpg.html)
I decided that if I keep handling the "master part" of the turret, as I worked on the rest of the tank......
the chances grew each day that I could screw it up.
So I molded and cast the turret, this will stand up to the constant handling better than the master would.
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02986_zpsctvefbwi.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02986_zpsctvefbwi.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02987_zpshfue2mnx.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02987_zpshfue2mnx.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02988_zpsxwx9v2fu.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02988_zpsxwx9v2fu.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02989_zps4bovoblg.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02989_zps4bovoblg.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02990_zpsohloebfm.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02990_zpsohloebfm.jpg.html)
now... the upper hull is also quite a fragile thing as well.....
so I decided to mate it up to a lower hull and make it solid.
first I built a box around the spot where the Driver and Radio Operator go,
then I plated over the turret ring.
glued in the rear plate, and glued them all together.
once that dried I cut a hole in the bottom and poured in resin.
This makes the whole thing "solid" and it can then stand up to the constant handling.
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02978_zpsqtclgrno.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC02978_zpsqtclgrno.jpg.html)
now the rear end needed some details
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03079_zpsklji0rpq.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03079_zpsklji0rpq.jpg.html)
as well as the front
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03081_zpsycrujsy8.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03081_zpsycrujsy8.jpg.html)
with this all done, I started on the tracks
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03085_zpsrb08e5ah.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03085_zpsrb08e5ah.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03087_zpspnxqcmjk.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03087_zpspnxqcmjk.jpg.html)
I am still working out many of the finer details
but here is where I am for now.
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Such a complete update on such a lot of building.
Am liking build and enjoying pictures - Thanks.
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Such a complete update on such a lot of building.
Am liking build and enjoying pictures - Thanks.
well......
I have been working on this for days.
I finally had to just sit down and type this all out :)
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Doing the tracks is a Fail
when I tried to mold them......
I had to destroy the tracks (masters) pulling them from the rubber. :(
Even though that is an accepted outcome, it resulted in the same for any resin casts.
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03122_zpsvrvxgn6k.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03122_zpsvrvxgn6k.jpg.html)
I reassembled one set to show how "Ideally" they should look when placed on the hull
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03124_zpsz5ywyyhp.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03124_zpsz5ywyyhp.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03123_zpsramq4ent.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03123_zpsramq4ent.jpg.html)
so for the past 2 1/2 days I have been trying to "re-engineer" the masters,
to improve the casting and allow for easier pulling from a mold.
they will be molded in sections like this.
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03117_zpsitwvbdfb.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03117_zpsitwvbdfb.jpg.html)
to easy assembly the bottom will will have holes for locking pins
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03118a_zpsiyqtvsae.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03118a_zpsiyqtvsae.jpg.html)
and the bottom run of the track will have the "locking pins"
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03119a_zpsijecv7bw.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03119a_zpsijecv7bw.jpg.html)
when assembled they will look like this
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03120_zps7sk0xdcl.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03120_zps7sk0xdcl.jpg.html)
I pushed myself kinda hard doing this part......
was awake for 48 hours making them work.
Ended up sleeping for 12 hours after that.
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Are you planning on selling these or just making a bunch for war gaming?
Just wondering why you are moulding and casting so much.
Great detail at that scale!
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You are a master! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
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48 hours!! I admire the dedication! These castings look great. I think I spend more time on "mold planning" than any other part, and it still takes lots of trial and error
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Are you planning on selling these or just making a bunch for war gaming?
Just wondering why you are moulding and casting so much.
Great detail at that scale!
they will offered for sale.
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You are a master! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
I am far from being a "master"
But I Thank You for the compliment
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48 hours!! I admire the dedication! These castings look great. I think I spend more time on "mold planning" than any other part, and it still takes lots of trial and error
you aren't kidding there.......
sometimes it can be a real headache :)
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have been working so hard on this.......
here is how the tracks have come out.
the top set (left side) are assembled,
the bottom set (right side)are not yet assembled.
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03141_zpsdpznvfrx.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03141_zpsdpznvfrx.jpg.html)
here is how they look on the tank with the drive sprocket, idler sprocket and the "inner" wheel hubs.
i did this in two shades of resin so you can see the different parts.
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03148_zpsnmih2eol.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03148_zpsnmih2eol.jpg.html)
I decided from the beginning that the front hatches would be open hatches,
So I made that area in the hull as an open space
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03142_zpsbltc4egi.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03142_zpsbltc4egi.jpg.html)
I molded the plate with the hatch openings, and cast it.
here it is without the hatches
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03143_zpsq9thwccp.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03143_zpsq9thwccp.jpg.html)
here it is with the hatches
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03144_zpsvrb1cvee.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03144_zpsvrb1cvee.jpg.html)
here it is with a fig
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03145_zpsrhyzy8mv.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03145_zpsrhyzy8mv.jpg.html)
I made it quite deep to allow different figs
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03146_zpsnj2pnaui.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03146_zpsnj2pnaui.jpg.html)
now....for the front....
there are two different "schools of thought" as to weather or not there should be a bow / hull MG
so I added the parts for the model builder to exercise his options
here it is as a plain hull
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03151_zpsystba0kg.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03151_zpsystba0kg.jpg.html)
here it is with the ball mount in place.
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03150_zps8lsxhmht.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03150_zps8lsxhmht.jpg.html)
That's where I am for now.
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Rather awesome work, there! 8)
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Rather awesome work, there! 8)
So glad you like it.....
take a look over at the E-79 as well :)
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OK....this is "finally" done...
it is currently in the Paint Booth
Once the painting is done I will post the finished model
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03198_zpsnt2zro1r.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03198_zpsnt2zro1r.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03199_zpsigbnweb5.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03199_zpsigbnweb5.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03200_zpsazb4m7ak.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03200_zpsazb4m7ak.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03201_zpshlf0dnhr.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03201_zpshlf0dnhr.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03202_zpsouowifsc.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03202_zpsouowifsc.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03203_zps5xwdn0mc.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03203_zps5xwdn0mc.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03204_zpshhnuaxah.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03204_zpshhnuaxah.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03205_zpsfuc9cpoj.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03205_zpsfuc9cpoj.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03206_zpspt3ucglk.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03206_zpspt3ucglk.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03207_zpsnl3pq2av.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/DSC03207_zpsnl3pq2av.jpg.html)
Boy this took a while :)
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Here it is painted and finished
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%206_zpseqn5zmqp.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%206_zpseqn5zmqp.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%207_zpshlooukld.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%207_zpshlooukld.jpg.html)
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(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%2010_zpsyqzxzuyp.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%2010_zpsyqzxzuyp.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%204_zpsb2m4uvdn.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%204_zpsb2m4uvdn.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%2012_zpscbucio0h.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%2012_zpscbucio0h.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%2013_zpszluo3smb.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%2013_zpszluo3smb.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%201_zpsnfyfxvnu.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%201_zpsnfyfxvnu.jpg.html)
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t455/lnerj72a/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%202_zpswsjxsvse.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/lnerj72a/media/E-50%20ausf%20B/Paint%20-%202_zpswsjxsvse.jpg.html)
now ack to work on the E-79 :)