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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on December 23, 2013, 04:07:28 AM

Title: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 23, 2013, 04:07:28 AM
Before the Mitsubishi A6M "Zero" there was the Mitsubishi A5M "Claude".  What ideas do you have for it?

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2njyii9.png)
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 23, 2013, 04:08:26 AM
Here's one to get you started:  With the Zero, we had the A6M2-N floatplane…what about an equivalent A5M?

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/A5M2-N_zpscc5aa76a.jpg)

Note:  This is a twin float version with the floats in the same approx location as the fixed undercarriage on the normal version.
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on December 23, 2013, 04:13:56 AM
Preordered this guy:  http://www.hlj.com/product/FNMFG-07/Air (http://www.hlj.com/product/FNMFG-07/Air).   

Likely for Spanish Civil War markings along with an "early" Val variant.
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 23, 2013, 04:18:43 AM
Preordered this guy:  [url]http://www.hlj.com/product/FNMFG-07/Air[/url] ([url]http://www.hlj.com/product/FNMFG-07/Air[/url]).   

Likely for Spanish Civil War markings along with an "early" Val variant.


I like your thinking! :)
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on December 23, 2013, 08:12:57 AM
Give it a suitable canopy and glassed-in spine behind it?
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 23, 2013, 08:41:30 AM
Give it a suitable canopy and glassed-in spine behind it?


A bit like the Ki-27?

(http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/japan/nakajima_ki-27.gif)
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on December 23, 2013, 11:13:19 AM
Give it a suitable canopy and glassed-in spine behind it?


A bit like the Ki-27?

([url]http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/japan/nakajima_ki-27.gif[/url])

The sliding canopy part for certain, but the portion after that more similar to what was later done on the Ki-61 allowing the pilot to look back on either side and up.
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 23, 2013, 11:32:25 AM
Of course for that different look there was also the inline A5M3:

(http://forum.valka.cz/files/a5m3.jpg)

I wonder about one of these in RAF markings with a RR Kestral or Merlin up front?
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on December 23, 2013, 12:35:40 PM
Of course for that different look there was also the inline A5M3:

([url]http://forum.valka.cz/files/a5m3.jpg[/url])

I wonder about one of these in RAF markings with a RR Kestral or Merlin up front?

Given the timelines, a Kestrel would work well, though an early Merlin might fit the timeline.  Be interesting to see in FAA markings operating from British carriers.
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 23, 2013, 01:10:52 PM
Certainly could make an interesting alternative to the Sea Gladiator.
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on December 23, 2013, 02:01:31 PM
Of course for that different look there was also the inline A5M3:

([url]http://forum.valka.cz/files/a5m3.jpg[/url])

I wonder about one of these in RAF markings with a RR Kestral or Merlin up front?


A beauty indeed
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 24, 2013, 03:53:51 AM
Crude…but you get the idea:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/A5MRetract_zps6f5cafcf.jpg)
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on December 24, 2013, 06:23:53 AM
The A5M2b Model 2-2 had an enclosed canopy, the IJN pilots hated it, so they
returned to the open cockpit on later A5M2b.

(http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/NavyJB&W/A5M2B-4.jpg)

(http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/NavyJB&W2/A5M-13.jpg)

(http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/MM/MM-92/0325-01-2-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 27, 2023, 03:45:13 AM
For some reason this just looks right to me:

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/Image_27-1-2023_at_5.06_am.jpeg)

CFBV
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on January 27, 2023, 01:10:32 PM
Sure does!
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: apophenia on January 28, 2023, 08:34:46 AM
Thirded ... although a Kestrel transplant would really clinch the deal  ;)
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on January 29, 2023, 05:55:21 PM
The A5M2b Model 2-2 had an enclosed canopy, the IJN pilots hated it, so they
returned to the open cockpit on later A5M2b.

([url]http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/NavyJB&W/A5M2B-4.jpg[/url])

([url]http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/NavyJB&W2/A5M-13.jpg[/url])

([url]http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/MM/MM-92/0325-01-2-1.jpg[/url])

SAounds similar to the Italian pilots forcing the MC.200 adn Fiat G.50 to go to open cockpits instead of enclosed one.  it would be nice to see a conversion for the enclosed cockpit.
Title: Re: Mitsubishi A5M Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Old Wombat on January 29, 2023, 09:37:30 PM
I seem to recall stories of RAF pilots complaining about the enclosed cockpits of the Gladiator, Hurricane & Spitfire when they were introduced, too; specifically complaining about the danger inherent in having to open the cockpit canopy when needing to bail out & the risk of the canopy slide being damaged in combat. If memory serves, they were pretty much told to put up & shut up by RAF GHQ.