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Title: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Frank3k on March 25, 2022, 10:52:41 AM
I had an idea of building a cart with truck wheels and a leaf suspension; I'm sure they're common in rural areas worldwide. The donor cart came with the Miniart country road diorama (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/miniart-36047-country-road--147181).
I also wanted to try some new techniques.

Here's the cart with an Arab on a donkey and the "engine", the horse from my build of the Master Box Gentleman Jim Jameson - Hired Gun (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=9132.msg168929#msg168929). Jim is now riding an 1880s Albert Robida inspired flyer, (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=9145.msg169511#msg169511) so he didn't need the horse.

The start of the leaf suspension is in the lower right:

(https://i.imgur.com/zR2FOLE.jpg)

The suspension was a quick build. I added some Meng bolts. The wheels are M113 wheels, the tires are from some anonymous 1/24 or 1/25 car model and the axle is a plastic rod to fit the wheels:

(https://i.imgur.com/yvAeGiJ.jpg)

I made a rider from body parts I had in my body bits box. The legs may be from the Academy 1/35 Hetzer; I repositioned one of the legs and extended the pant legs with some ProCreate epoxy, which is great stuff - it stays somewhat pliable after curing. I don't know where the torso came from, but I added a hood, also made with ProCreate. The head and arms are optional parts from the excellent Zvezda M-72 motorcycle (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/zvezda-3639-m-72--103004)

The guy was probably not going to be clean shaven, so I experimented with a way of giving him more than a 5 o'clock shadow. I remembered the great rusting technique from Araki (https://arakichi-blog-fc2-com.translate.goog/blog-category-28.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=ajax,elem&_x_tr_sch=http) so I tried something similar on the head. I used the tip of a fine scalpel to score the beard into the plastic . He looks  little like Paul Teutul here:

(https://i.imgur.com/ivkgwvn.jpg)

I had a hard time figuring out how the horse is supposed to be harnessed, but I found some pictures online and took some artistic license.

Here's the cart finished. The yoke on the horse is made with ProCreate. The strap on the back is just some depron foam cut and painted. All the harnesses are painted Tamiya tape, except for the reins, which are wire-wrap wire:

(https://i.imgur.com/sVp4zwU.jpg)

I added a spare tire at the rear; not sure if it works. The shovel and pickaxe are from one of the first 1/35 kits I built after getting back into the hobby; the Tamiya Sd.Kfz.222:

(https://i.imgur.com/aidgTHR.jpg)

The cargo is from several sources; the tarp and wooden box are from Valuegear. The beer bottles and wooden crate are from Miniart, the plastic water jerrycan is from Meng, the solar panel is a leftover from a previous build. It's connected to a box (battery?) from the Tamiya Gama Goat. The large bag resting on top of the wooden box was made from leftover ProCreate:

(https://i.imgur.com/nlWFJyS.jpg)

Even though the figure source was of a Russian soldier, he looks African-American or middle Eastern here. He's sitting on a Procreate cushion that I made by squishing his butt into the putty before it set. The fuzzy look on his hoodie is some Tamiya weathering powder brushed over a clear matte coating.

Something to his left drew his attention (and that of the horse). A guy can't enjoy his beer in peace...:

(https://i.imgur.com/Ox6ya60.jpg)

Overall, I'm not that pleased with how this came out. The harness system was a PITA and the shading on the guy's pats looks messy (doesn't look this bad in normal light)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Old Wombat on March 25, 2022, 02:47:02 PM
You may not be impressed with it but I am! :smiley: 8)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Buzzbomb on March 25, 2022, 04:07:20 PM
Frank, works for me
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: LemonJello on March 25, 2022, 08:42:41 PM
You may not be impressed with it but I am! :smiley: 8)

I second this.
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on March 25, 2022, 11:56:37 PM
@Frank.  We are our own worst critic.  You did an excellent job on modifying the cart and adapting the figure and horse to fit. 
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Story on March 26, 2022, 01:24:44 AM
Once again, Frank's art mirrors reality.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e8/74/8e/e8748ee0768248b19e78d3549a21d65d--wagon-military.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Frank3k on March 26, 2022, 02:48:57 AM
Thanks guys - I think the best trick was the beard. It looks better in normal lighting and some drybrushing should bring it out some more.

Story - I may have to build that, since I have the donkey and rider. Sourcing the wheels shouldn't be difficult and the cart seems to be just netting dangling from a wooden frame. It even looks suitably post apocalyptic.
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: apophenia on March 26, 2022, 04:38:00 AM
@Frank.  We are our own worst critic.  You did an excellent job on modifying the cart and adapting the figure and horse to fit.

Yep. Frank, this is awesome! I was wondering where you got those great wheels ... only to read that they were M113 rims and generic car model tires. The effect is perfect  :smiley:

Also love the poses. With both horse and driver (interrupted mid-guzzle) checking left, we naturally want to follow their gaze to uncover the story. Good drama ... but subtle.

BTW, in my imaginings, that Gama Goat box holds a Jackery 500. Why in a box? Apparently no-one has 3D-printed a 1/35 Portable Power Station yet  ???
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 26, 2022, 06:51:49 AM
I like it
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Story on March 27, 2022, 01:45:20 AM

Story - I may have to build that, since I have the donkey and rider. Sourcing the wheels shouldn't be difficult and the cart seems to be just netting dangling from a wooden frame. It even looks suitably post apocalyptic.

It's interesting that we've already been *there* at the peripheries of civilization for the last couple of decades.
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.EoiwLkm518PzUH-9n2LPewHaFj?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)

Closer to home, the Mexican carreta bulk haulers (salt, hay, etc) would be easy to duplicate (in reality or scale) using only salvaged lumber.
(https://art.famsf.org/sites/default/files/styles/artwork_view/public/artwork/borein/3254201410780028.jpg?itok=Gn6Tlh-f)
(https://www.legendsofamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/MexicanWagonsOxen-800.jpg)
https://medium.com/new-farmer/re-inventing-the-wheel-1b43c0164d2b (https://medium.com/new-farmer/re-inventing-the-wheel-1b43c0164d2b)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Frank3k on March 27, 2022, 04:21:23 AM
I thought that was a GAZ-66 cab at first glance.

Yeah if lumber is available, carts would be fairly easy to cobble together. draft animals would be fairly easy to acquire. If metal is available, leaf springs would make life in a cart a bit less apocalyptic.
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: apophenia on March 27, 2022, 05:31:10 AM
... If metal is available, leaf springs would make life in a cart a bit less apocalyptic.

Leaf springs are usually made from high-carbon spring-steel. And 5160 spring-steel and the like is excellent for recycling into cutting tools.

So, never park your cart overnight close to any post-apocalyptic smithies' forges  ;)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Story on March 27, 2022, 11:29:12 AM
I think that considering the context, leaf spring assemblies would be plentiful.
It'd just be a question of farming them -
probably by salvage carts supplied with jacks, blocks, lubricants (also a salvage item from auto oil tanks), tanker bars & cheater pipes (for leverage) and maybe some flame cutters.

(https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wallpaper_803341.jpg)(https://bestmoviecars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2003-Nissan-Murano-Z50.jpg)

  draft animals would be fairly easy to acquire. 

From what I remember, donkeys are the easiest because they're hardy animals that breed like bunnies. Mules are equally hardy, considering their mixed parentage but have stereotypical stubbornness issues.

Horses require someone knowing how to care for them (overeat/undereat, do stupid things & equine diseases can be vicious without meds to treat them), which is why civilian Teamsters were paid in silver coin during the American Revolution.

That's why Stephen King wrote out equines out of survivorship to the same rate as humans in THE STAND.

Probably also why horse thievery use to be a hanging offense (diorama potential there).

Boring animal science to put in your cart
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7760297/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7760297/)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Old Wombat on March 27, 2022, 04:49:14 PM
Cattle are the best load movers, not fast but can shift lots.

Goats are good for small loads & dogs can move decent loads, too, if you have enough of them.


PS: Note: All animals come with the same problem as automobiles, although, maybe, easier to solve - fuel, or, in the case of animals, food & water, & in some instances, carrying enough of it to keep your animals alive, let alone healthy.
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Frank3k on March 28, 2022, 03:28:14 AM
You guys are giving me good ideas...
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Gingie on March 28, 2022, 10:07:08 PM
I can see Vitto Morgenson doing his best to avoid cannibals while on The Road.
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Old Wombat on March 29, 2022, 12:28:57 AM
I can see Vitto Morgenson doing his best to avoid cannibals while on The Road.

Viggo Mortensen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viggo_Mortensen) ;)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Story on March 29, 2022, 08:34:58 AM
I can see Vitto Morgenson doing his best to avoid cannibals while on The Road.

Viggo Mortensen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viggo_Mortensen) ;)

Not this guy? (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ez_qDg_XoAQq3HK.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Gingie on March 31, 2022, 04:28:37 AM
Swedish names all sound the same!
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: apophenia on March 31, 2022, 06:42:53 AM
Swedish names all sound the same!

Yep. It's those pesky Old Norse origins. The ON name Vígge came from víg meaning battle, fight, murder, etc. (BYW, the accented 'í' is important - ON vig (no accent) was pronounced 'vik' and meant village.)

Viggo Mortensen got his name from his Danish father. But Viggo is a common name throughout Scandinavia - even used in non-Nordic Finish and Greenlandic.
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Gingie on April 01, 2022, 01:23:34 AM
Sorry, I was trying to make a Kurt Russel / The Thing joke. But that is interesting about Viggo and my comments stand about the cart looking well at home on https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Old Wombat on April 01, 2022, 09:55:54 AM
Sorry, I was trying to make a Kurt Russel / The Thing joke. But that is interesting about Viggo and my comments stand about the cart looking well at home on https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/)

Except for the horse, I agree entirely. :smiley:
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Story on April 01, 2022, 11:00:34 AM
i could see a return of the late 19th century Freightliner of it's day appearing in the 21st (?) century.
 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Twenty_Mule_Team_Borax_Wagons%2C_Death_Valley_Junction%2C_Inyo_County%2C_CA_HAER_CAL%2C14-DVNM%2C4-_%28sheet_4_of_8%29.png/1280px-Twenty_Mule_Team_Borax_Wagons%2C_Death_Valley_Junction%2C_Inyo_County%2C_CA_HAER_CAL%2C14-DVNM%2C4-_%28sheet_4_of_8%29.png)

Note the size
(https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/historyculture/images/BigWagon.gif)

https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/historyculture/twenty-mule-teams.htm (https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/historyculture/twenty-mule-teams.htm)

I've got a couple of these kits as they're 'close enough' for 28mm gaming scale

https://www.20muleteamlaundry.com/history/ (https://www.20muleteamlaundry.com/history/)



which means the LINDBERG Civil War artillery set (available at deep discount as some OLLIES') could be cannibalized for a 1/35th scale build
https://www.hobbylinc.com/lindberg-horse-drawn-field-artillery-union-plastic-model-military-vehicle-1:16-scale-70350 (https://www.hobbylinc.com/lindberg-horse-drawn-field-artillery-union-plastic-model-military-vehicle-1:16-scale-70350)

The beauty of this would be that any draft animal would be acceptable in the effort to reach 20 of them, and if some are slightly over-scale OH WELL  - THEY'RE MUTANTS.
https://www.google.com/search?q=plastic+toy+oxen&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjxocj-7_H2AhWrM1kFHUyKBcQQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=plastic+toy+oxen&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIECAAQGDoFCAAQgAQ6BggAEAgQHjoGCAAQChAYUNwLWPQWYNMZaABwAHgAgAEyiAHsAZIBATWYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=G2tGYrGoFavn5NoPzJSWoAw&bih=481&biw=1234 (https://www.google.com/search?q=plastic+toy+oxen&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjxocj-7_H2AhWrM1kFHUyKBcQQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=plastic+toy+oxen&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIECAAQGDoFCAAQgAQ6BggAEAgQHjoGCAAQChAYUNwLWPQWYNMZaABwAHgAgAEyiAHsAZIBATWYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=G2tGYrGoFavn5NoPzJSWoAw&bih=481&biw=1234)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: apophenia on April 01, 2022, 11:17:21 AM
Sorry, I was trying to make a Kurt Russel / The Thing joke. But that is interesting about Viggo and my comments stand about the cart looking well at home on https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/)

Scusa Graeme! I missed that ref entirely - too busy nerding out on Old Norse  :-[

My only excuse is having seen the film almost 40 years ago ... my favourite line (and delivery) coming from David Clennon  ;)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Gingie on April 02, 2022, 01:12:43 AM

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my favourite line (and delivery) coming from David Clennon  ;)
[/quote]

I was too busy trying to hide my eyes! YGBFSM! ahha!

Sorry for the hi-jack, back to the cart!
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Frank3k on April 02, 2022, 07:33:04 AM
I like that enormous cargo wagon! I may have to add it to my supply of post apocalyptic vehicles.

I made a cart for the Arab and donkey, inspired by the image Story posted. The cart is mostly scratchbuilt, with the bottom made from leftover ABS raft material from my filament printer. It's usually waste, but I save all the ABS. The sides are Plastruct ladders and the suspension is scratch. The axle supports are from an RPM FT-17 kit:

(https://i.imgur.com/kYSQCko.jpg)

I'm building an old Zvezda/Italeri Zil-151 and while I'm thinking about color and adding the last bits, I used it as a platform:

(https://i.imgur.com/R8EfoDN.jpg)

It's not a very big vehicle. The tires are from an old RPM BA-20 kit and the rims/wheels are yet more M113 wheels trimmed to fit:

(https://i.imgur.com/UFoIGBS.jpg)

I may just have the guy riding the donkey to give more space on the cart. I need to add some more bits, including making the yoke and harness.

Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: apophenia on April 03, 2022, 03:40:10 AM
Great re-use of materials Frank  :smiley:

On proportions, I'm wondering if the poles are too long? In many images of donkey carts, the driver is tucked up much closer to Eeyore's butt.
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Buzzbomb on April 03, 2022, 06:02:45 AM
Frank the model is coming along nicely, but those instructions  :o

Probably the worst I have seen where the pictures look nothing like the model itself. Terrible stuff ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Frank3k on April 03, 2022, 06:38:03 AM
On proportions, I'm wondering if the poles are too long? In many images of donkey carts, the driver is tucked up much closer to Eeyore's butt.

Do you want to be that close to a donkey's ass? Compared to Story's reference picture, I should move the poles closer to the donkey's front shoulders. I'm still considering putting the rider o the donkey, since it would simplify construction. The poles would have to be further back, or it would be - ride 5 feet, get hit in the ankles or calf by the poles, repeat...

Frank the model is coming along nicely, but those instructions  :o

Probably the worst I have seen where the pictures look nothing like the model itself. Terrible stuff ;D ;D

They look fine to me, Brian. You can see where the front grill attaches to the donkey's ass...
actually, they're poor instructions and in bad shape. I bought the kit on ebay - it had gotten wet in a hurricane and the instructions seem to have taken the brunt of the damage. I found the original on Scalemates... and the undamaged instructions are not an improvement.
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Buzzbomb on April 03, 2022, 08:32:59 AM
On proportions, I'm wondering if the poles are too long? In many images of donkey carts, the driver is tucked up much closer to Eeyore's butt.

There is appears to be quite a bit of science in the placement of the Shafts and the harness, literally thousands of years of accumulated knowledge. Did some quite interesting reading around the interwebnet on that whilst doing my Post Apoc Camel Traders Cart.
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: apophenia on April 04, 2022, 02:32:28 AM
Do you want to be that close to a donkey's ass? Compared to Story's reference picture, I should move the poles closer to the donkey's front shoulders. I'm still considering putting the rider o the donkey, since it would simplify construction...

Good point ass-wise. Having the rider on the donkey also solves a potential c/g problems (attached).

Still, Brian's "thousands of years of accumulated knowledge" research sounds well worth nerding out on  :smiley:
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Story on April 04, 2022, 05:20:47 AM
More than you'll ever want to know about Donkey rigging, with illustrations.

It's like an instruction manual that'll keep the worst rivet counters at bay.

https://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/ctvm/Research/DAPR/Training%20Publications/Harness%20Hitching%20Donkeys/Harness%20Hitching%20donkeys%20Oct06.pdf (https://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/ctvm/Research/DAPR/Training%20Publications/Harness%20Hitching%20Donkeys/Harness%20Hitching%20donkeys%20Oct06.pdf)


I think this is actually some sort of self-propelled Trebuchet.
(https://synapse9.com/issues/images/donkey-pulling-cart.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Frank3k on April 04, 2022, 10:05:28 AM
That's a good document and I'll use it for reference.

When's the final exam?

I was going to use modified M113 drive wheels that would have looks like the ones on that cart. "Nahhh, too fancy"
Title: FINISHED 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Frank3k on April 12, 2022, 07:19:58 AM
I lost steam/interest in the second cart - especially when it came to all the harnesses. So I just finished the cart, donkey and rider.

The cart is mostly scratch built, except for the tires, wheels and the loops at the front. The floor of the cart is some ABS raft from my 3D printer. Handy "junk":

(https://i.imgur.com/kmuRql0.jpg)

The arab rider looks like Javier Bardem. Here's Javier and his donkey:

(https://i.imgur.com/8GmLkqR.jpg)

They're both pretty much OOB:

(https://i.imgur.com/e3pDItI.jpg)

I "enhanced" the beard by cutting into the plastic with a fine blade

(https://i.imgur.com/XMjaJc0.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Old Wombat on April 12, 2022, 08:39:52 AM
 :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Story on April 18, 2022, 09:06:09 PM
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.PB4yCjN_BZrZw054HBdW-wHaEo?pid=ImgDet&rs=1) (https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.20smhmHTnrNoQijkJvXVvwHaEX?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Frank3k on April 18, 2022, 10:07:11 PM
This must be the latest Russian BMP - the "лошадь"/"Horse"
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Old Wombat on April 19, 2022, 01:05:23 AM
From 1959;

(https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_0.506%2C$multiply_1.5109%2C$ratio_1.776846%2C$width_1059%2C$x_112%2C$y_0/t_crop_custom/q_62%2Cf_auto/b588d8df3017b80cb9cefdfd1d90b8d7aec4a69a)

From the movie "On the Beach" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(1959_film) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(1959_film)))

This was the only image I could find of a horse-drawn car from the movie, although the novel, by Neville Shute, refers to them quite a bit.
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Ramba on April 19, 2022, 08:02:33 PM
Some great pony/horse drawn carts. Very well done!
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 20, 2022, 02:58:58 AM
Something related but different:  http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2010/12/between-people-having-horses-and.html (http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2010/12/between-people-having-horses-and.html)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Story on April 26, 2022, 09:00:27 PM
Limo service
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9b/7c/e4/9b7ce49dd313a4f08a5f8efc071994e9.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Frank3k on April 26, 2022, 10:49:14 PM
If that were only a Citroen 2CV drawn by two horses...
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Story on April 26, 2022, 11:35:12 PM
If that were only a Citroen 2CV drawn by two horses...

Got that kit in stock?
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Frank3k on April 26, 2022, 11:44:09 PM
There are two plastic 2CV kits - Heller in 1/43 and Revell in 1/24. There's a 1/35 2CV in paper: https://www.paperdiorama.com/paper-models/2-cv-collection-vol-4/ (https://www.paperdiorama.com/paper-models/2-cv-collection-vol-4/)

I've discovered that I lack the patience for scratch building horse hitches and the skill for paper models...
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Story on April 27, 2022, 01:26:01 AM
I just got that joke - 'deux cheveaux'.  Cue the kicky music from the HS French class reel to reel B&W video.
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Frank3k on April 27, 2022, 02:07:22 AM
I was friends with a French researcher at work and one day I thought it would be fun to speak with him in French. He stopped me in the middle of the hallway and asked "Where did you learn French?" I told him I was taught by two Haitian teachers. He said "that explains why you sound like you learned French in the ghetto. Don't speak in French in public..."

Why yes, he's from Paris. Why do you ask?
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Story on April 27, 2022, 02:46:08 PM
I was a poor student. Mrs Gertz called me "mon petite crouton".  ???
Title: Re: 1/35 post apocalyptic cart
Post by: Story on April 27, 2022, 02:49:57 PM
There are two plastic 2CV kits - Heller in 1/43 and Revell in 1/24. There's a 1/35 2CV in paper: https://www.paperdiorama.com/paper-models/2-cv-collection-vol-4/ (https://www.paperdiorama.com/paper-models/2-cv-collection-vol-4/)

I've discovered that I lack the patience for scratch building horse hitches and the skill for paper models...

??????????????
https://www.ebay.com/itm/363704508091 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/363704508091)