Author Topic: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones (Read 18509 times)

Tophe · « **on:** June 01, 2016, 02:04:33 AM »

The first agricultural Lightning, for a start:

Tophe · « **Reply #1 on:** June 01, 2016, 02:53:23 AM »

The second agricultural Lightning was more transformed:

Tophe · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2016, 11:37:27 AM »

The third agricultural Lightning belonged to the very small family of twin-boom canards:

Brian da Basher · « **Reply #3 on:** June 04, 2016, 05:28:06 PM »

My what lovely spats you have there!

I think the second one is my favorite, but they're all incredibly imaginative designs!

Nice work, Tophe!

Brian da Basher

Tophe · « **Reply #4 on:** June 05, 2016, 02:12:18 AM »

Thanks a lot, Brian!
But, sorry, the next ones probably will have no spats (water bombers I think)...

Tophe · « **Reply #5 on:** June 06, 2016, 01:51:47 AM »

2 other agricultural Lightnings came from steelpillow (or his grandfather a long time ago)...
I especially like the asymmetrical spats of the last one
EDIT: the one on the left side is not agricultural but civilian also, this is a Reno winner, asymmetric (wuzak idea) to turn better around pylons.

Buzzbomb · « **Reply #6 on:** June 06, 2016, 01:06:10 PM »

All in all the P-38 as an ag aircraft sort of makes some sense
Although you would be over the paddock rather quickly methinks

Tophe · « **Reply #7 on:** June 07, 2016, 02:08:02 AM »

Interesting: do you mean that regular P-38 engines are too powerful? I could imagine versions with smaller engines, yes, thanks!
EDIT: here they are:

Tophe · « **Reply #8 on:** June 07, 2016, 12:42:21 PM »

Quote from: Tophe on June 05, 2016, 02:12:18 AM

sorry, the next ones probably will have no spats (water bombers I think)...

wrong! the Fokker 27s and Trackers water-bombers proved that a water-bomber must not be a seaplane...
Here are 3 Lightning fire extinguishers, one being a landplane:

AXOR · « **Reply #9 on:** June 08, 2016, 01:48:18 AM »

Lightnings on floats

,this gives me some ideas...well,thanks for that Cristophe!

Tophe · « **Reply #10 on:** June 08, 2016, 12:54:17 PM »

Thanks!

And in the title were civilian Mustangs as well as civilian Lightnings, so: here are Mustangs Water-Bombers:

Brian da Basher · « **Reply #11 on:** June 09, 2016, 12:53:40 AM »

I really like your Mustang water bombers, Tophe!

Especially those extra-large spats!

Your work never fails to delight me, mon ami!

Brian da Basher

Tophe · « **Reply #12 on:** June 09, 2016, 02:54:26 AM »

Thanks a lot!
Those spats come (reduced) from a Daimler-Benz project: http://www.luft46.com/db/dbbombc.html

Tophe · « **Reply #13 on:** June 10, 2016, 12:42:39 AM »

Water-bombers with Daimler-Benz undercarriage came also in the Lightning family:

Tophe · « **Reply #14 on:** June 11, 2016, 01:30:41 PM »

The reason why I drew agricultural aircraft and water bombers as typically civilian is: because I drew so many P-38 airliners already in the past. Anyway here are a few new ones (AIL-38A, J, J2), but I will have to imagine a proper undercarriage, how?

ChernayaAkula · « **Reply #15 on:** June 11, 2016, 10:00:35 PM »

I really like the airliner on the left!

I believe you have drawn one before that was somewhat similar to this. That got me thinking... How about a version with two passenger decks (Breguet Deux Ponts-style) and two sets of P-38 wings (as on a biplane), keeping the tail-booms?
Maybe even a canard version (with the wings moved further aft)?

Tophe · « **Reply #16 on:** June 12, 2016, 01:00:56 AM »

The AIM-38A, J, J2 featured non retractable undercarriage...
then the AICA-38A, B, C (Air Charnaya-Akuler) featured Chernaya Akula's ideas, thanks!

Tophe · « **Reply #17 on:** June 12, 2016, 01:01:35 AM »

AXOR · « **Reply #18 on:** June 12, 2016, 04:29:55 AM »

AIL 38 A my fav ! :)

ChernayaAkula · « **Reply #19 on:** June 12, 2016, 07:55:05 AM »

Yeah! Very nice!

Just what I imagined them to look like.
How about a bi-plane version? I don't know whether prop clearance would pose a problem, though.

Tophe · « **Reply #20 on:** June 12, 2016, 01:48:37 PM »

Quote from: ChernayaAkula on June 12, 2016, 07:55:05 AM

Yeah! Very nice! Just what I imagined them to look like.
How about a bi-plane version? I don't know whether prop clearance would pose a problem, though.

Thanks! And here are the extra ones, with thanks again!

Tophe · « **Reply #21 on:** June 12, 2016, 01:56:23 PM »

And here is a tiny detail, to show this AICA-38D is safe: no intermeshing propellers!

AXOR · « **Reply #22 on:** June 12, 2016, 06:05:51 PM »

:) Niiice

ChernayaAkula · « **Reply #23 on:** June 12, 2016, 09:12:36 PM »

So cool! Thanks, Tophe! :) May have to build one of those in 1/144.

Brian da Basher · « **Reply #24 on:** June 15, 2016, 04:43:52 AM »

That AICA-38D is very impressive, Tophe!

I was thinking that the rear 2/3rds of the fuselage behind the wings could be a removable section that could be configured for either passengers or cargo depending on what was needed. I saw a similar concept a while back but I can't recall where.

You never cease to amaze and delight me with your incredibly imaginative and innovative designs, mon ami!

Brian da Basher


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