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BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« on: February 29, 2012, 06:52:58 PM »
I figured I'd start up a thread for the various BMP vehicles and their offshoots

Here's the Czech built versions, the BVP-1 and BVP-2:

BVP-1


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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2012, 02:30:57 AM »
I found this on Track-Link this morning and it certainly looks convincing:

BMP with LAV Turret built by Diethelm Berlage (Images can not be hot-linked so click on the html to see it).   

Now how about a BMP with:

Bradley turret?
 
Marder turret?

Warrior turret?
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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2012, 02:35:30 AM »
Interesting...could also reverse it maybe...Marder with BMP-1 turret?
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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2012, 05:50:04 AM »
Here's a list of variants in the BMP family with some different turrets:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMP-1_variants

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2012, 06:08:31 AM »
This BMP looks very interesting.  I suspect it might be a bit on the cramped side inside though.

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2012, 06:38:06 AM »
Jeff, perhaps you misread the info.  The IST Dynamics UMWP is an Un Manned Weapons Platform (ie: no-one in the turret).

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2012, 07:01:05 AM »
Jeff, perhaps you misread the info.  The IST Dynamics UMWP is an Un Manned Weapons Platform (ie: no-one in the turret).

With all of the vehicle electronics and spare rounds it is not going to be a very plush ride inside of that thing.  The BMP was cramped to start with and adding in all of the bells and whistles is going to make for a lot of sharp corners to bump into on the inside.
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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2012, 07:16:02 AM »
Ah ok.  I thought you meant the turret itself.

Most ex-Sov armoured vehicles are cramped by nature.  I think they tend to shoehorn everything into every space rather than worry about creature-comforts like the West.

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2012, 07:25:48 AM »
Ah ok.  I thought you meant the turret itself.

Most ex-Sov armoured vehicles are cramped by nature.  I think they tend to shoehorn everything into every space rather than worry about creature-comforts like the West.

The end user should be grateful that they company did not attempt to fit all of that kit into a BMD ;)
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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2012, 07:29:02 AM »
some interesting colour schemes there .... Aqua-blue :icon_fsm:

That BMP with Lav-25 turret model is of a real demo machine.

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 07:30:24 AM »
couple more old ones ...

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 11:43:39 AM »
Just as there is now a tracked Stryker, so too is there a wheeled BMP-2.



Wow.



Oh my.  I'm going to be sick.  It looks like someone faxed a fuzzy photo of the Fahd 280-30 and there was a paper jam as it was printing.  Then they built something to match the picture.



It also looks eerily similar to the Hammerhead-i Eagle Thrust.



At least we know India's watching Top Gear.

In case anyone wants to subject their eyes to a further round of retinal bombardment, it's called the Chakra Rath (which I can only assume means something quite derogatory in Hindi) and more pictures can be found at the link below.

http://alternathistory.org.ua/indiiskii-variant-modernizatsii-bmp-2

There's even a walkaround video on YouTube.

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Wow.  Just...wow.

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 03:40:49 PM »
Oh dear.  What's next? A wheeled MT-LB?
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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 04:53:58 PM »
Not much ground clearance under the leaf-springs is there?  The tyres look either flat or overloaded.  I doubt the value of it in cross-country driving as well, with that large gap between the front and rear wheels.   Internal security vehicle perhaps?   Technology demonstrator?  Spoof?

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2012, 07:41:42 PM »
Wow - that last time I saw an idea as bad as that, it was in a black and white photo from the 1930s....... ???

If you wanted to recycle old BMP-1s into wheeled AFVs, it'd make far more sense to buy the bare hulls of a properly designed vehicle (there must be at least a dozen to choose from) and then swap all the BMP subsystems onto them. That Kadr Fahd in Logan's post has got to be the first obvious candidate.
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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2012, 09:24:50 PM »
Not much ground clearance under the leaf-springs is there?  The tyres look either flat or overloaded.  I doubt the value of it in cross-country driving as well, with that large gap between the front and rear wheels.   Internal security vehicle perhaps?   Technology demonstrator?  Spoof?

From what I read, it's a proof of concept vehicle for urban fighting.  Even as a proof of concept, there is so much wrong with this.  By the way, it's 2x6.  Only the front axle is apparently driven at the moment.  I imagine the turning radius for the vehicle to be only slightly larger than Trafalgar square.  The gun elevation on BMPs  has always left something to be desired and the standard vehicles were know to be death traps in Grozny.  This just has "bad idea" written all over it (in Hindi).

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2012, 10:41:12 PM »
Did someone say wheeled BMP?

This is the Obyekt (Object) 19 experimental configurations hybrid 'wheeled _ tracked' BMP-1 prototype.
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Obyekt (Object) 1200 8x8 competitor to the winning Obyekt 765, which became the BMP-1 (it lacked cross country mobility, compared to the more expensive, but more mobile
Obyekt 765)

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2012, 10:44:09 PM »
More Obyekt (Object) 1200 8x8

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2012, 10:47:48 PM »
I'm familiar with both of those.  They're both pretty good looking, I think--especially the 8x8.

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2012, 12:13:29 AM »
Can't say I like the rear engine with narrow door on the 8x8. It's not quite as bad as the BTR-60 et al, but it's still sub-optimal. I know that vehicles like the V-150 and the Ratel had rear engines and half-width rear doors too, but then they also had side doors, so troops could exit in all directions.
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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2014, 03:01:49 AM »
No idea:

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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2014, 09:19:23 PM »
Looks like a BMP-1 with some kind of aircraft gun pod fitted to the turret roof.
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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2014, 01:04:19 AM »
Looks like a BMP-1 with some kind of aircraft gun pod fitted to the turret roof.
That appears to be an upside down UPK-23-250 23 mm gun pod (twin 23mm cannon) that was often seen on Russian Su-15 Flagon interceptors mounted in pairs on the fuselage. 
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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2014, 02:16:58 AM »
I think you're correct - what I was commenting upon was that I have no idea of why this was fitted.
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Re: BMP Family of Vehicles (BMP-1, BMP-2, BMP-3, BMP-XXX, etc.)
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2014, 02:49:21 AM »
I could probably model that with all the UPK-23 pods I've got now. What would make more sense to me would be to have it mounted on say, a BRDM-2, thereby massively increasing it's firepower and not causing an access problem since the BRDM turret doesn't have a hatch anyway. Have it assigned to a Frontal Aviation "base defence platoon", as if the Russian air force had it's own equivalent of the RAF Regiment. It could have sister vehicles with UV-57 rocket pods in a similar mounting... >:D
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