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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #125 on: February 05, 2019, 07:44:03 AM »
Modelcollect has a version in 1/72! LINK!
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #126 on: February 05, 2019, 06:27:03 PM »
Modelcollect has a version in 1/72! LINK!

Yeah, but why would anyone want to play in that small scale? ;)
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #127 on: February 05, 2019, 07:56:55 PM »
Modelcollect has a version in 1/72! LINK!

Yeah, but why would anyone want to play in that small scale? ;)

You know the answer Greg .....   ;)
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #128 on: February 06, 2019, 06:53:01 PM »
Because...

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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #129 on: March 08, 2020, 03:50:46 AM »
In an alternate reality...

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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #130 on: March 08, 2020, 04:13:55 AM »
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #131 on: September 27, 2020, 02:39:26 AM »
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #132 on: October 05, 2020, 02:53:58 AM »
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #133 on: October 05, 2020, 03:19:19 AM »
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #134 on: February 15, 2022, 12:54:22 PM »
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #135 on: March 20, 2022, 04:07:54 AM »
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #136 on: May 19, 2022, 02:07:19 AM »







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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #137 on: May 19, 2022, 09:25:45 AM »
One of these days Iíll build my Canadian extra long range interceptor with an extended fuselage.

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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #138 on: May 24, 2022, 04:18:58 PM »
Not sure why I haven't posted these on here before but my two Whif Tornadoes...

1/48 Revell F.3 as a USAF Wild Weasel



1/72 Hasegawa F.3 with Hase F-18 wings as a straight wing Tornado FG.5


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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #139 on: May 24, 2022, 06:14:22 PM »
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #140 on: May 25, 2022, 01:05:55 AM »
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #141 on: May 25, 2022, 04:48:52 AM »
Those Sea Tornado's look very nice.

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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #142 on: May 25, 2022, 09:14:44 AM »
The F-18 wings look totally natural. F-18A or E?

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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #143 on: May 25, 2022, 12:31:26 PM »
The F-18 wings look totally natural. F-18A or E?

On my model they are A wings. Hasegawa 1/72 F.3 combined with Hasegawa "TF-18A" (F-18B). 

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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #144 on: June 01, 2022, 09:15:59 PM »
first question, how high was HMS Ark Royal's hangar deck?
second question, what modifications would be needed to make a marine (Sea) Tornado?

Aeroplanedriver, what did you do with the Tornado's swing wings, make a VG Hornet perhaps?

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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #145 on: June 02, 2022, 02:13:59 AM »
first question, how high was HMS Ark Royal's hangar deck?

I understand both hanger decks had a useable height of 17ft 6in height.  As such the tail fin would probably need to be made foldable.
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #146 on: June 02, 2022, 03:07:58 AM »
first question, how high was HMS Ark Royal's hangar deck?

I understand both hanger decks had a useable height of 17ft 6in height.  As such the tail fin would probably need to be made foldable.

You'd have to hinge the radome off to the side so it would fit on the deck elevators.

Add the naval strength tail hook and redesign the tail pipe area to delete the thrust reverser gear. This would save some weight and complexity as well as removing a design aspect that would likely be very susceptible to corrosion at sea.

Strengthen the landing gear to handle carrier operations.

The real challenge would be deciding on the launch system to use: bridle or catpult bar on the nose gear leg.

Presuming the Ark Royal we are refering to is the Audacious Class that was decommissioned in the late 70s and scrapped in 1980, all aircraft that launched from it were launched using the bridle system.

Keeping the Tornado and Ark Royal in their real world timelines, the Tornado still in flight testing when the Ark Royal was decommissioned, I see a possible scenario to make things work:

The proposed CVA-01 carrier project of the early 1960s does not get cancelled and the Audacious Class Ark Royal is retired much earlier and one of the new class of carrier is given the Ark Royal name. You'd still need to make all the above listed design modification to the Tornado, but you wouldn't be constricted by Audacious Class' smaller dimensions.

A refit of the carrier could coincide with the entry of the Tornado into British service in 1982, this could allow th bridle launch system to be replaced with a bar launch system. Looking at the Tornado as it is, I can't see potential bridle hook up and hold-back spots where there isn't already somtehing there, the bar launch would make more sense for it.

As the Sea Harrier was introduced in 1978, it's already a factor by the time the Tornado comes along. The Royal Navy can complement the larger CVA-01 with smaller, ski jump equiped carriers for the Sea Harriers to be based from.

This scenario could possibly open "What if" doors for carrier based, Gr.1 standard Tornados to be part of the Falklands War.
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #147 on: June 24, 2022, 03:20:07 AM »
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
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Re: Panavia Tornado possibilities
« Reply #149 on: June 24, 2022, 07:00:41 AM »

1/72 Hasegawa F.3 with Hase F-18 wings as a straight wing Tornado FG.5



Canada buys retired (junked) Tornadoes from Britain on the cheap and rewings them with F-18 parts for supposed bargain basement price aircraft that costs a bundle in engineering work to get it to work!