Author Topic: T-34 and variants, all around the world  (Read 17272 times)

Offline Old Wombat

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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #50 on: March 31, 2022, 09:07:27 AM »
Yeah, my error; two SPG's that seem to have suffered slightly catastrophic detonations. ;)
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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2022, 09:30:06 AM »


I'm seeing one either slightly damaged or undamaged tank & parts of two, maybe three, completely destroyed tanks (at least one slightly catastrophic detonation).

In the foreground of that first shot seems to be the remains of a 2S3 Akatsiya that has seen better days  :o

2S19 Msta-S, actually.

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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2022, 12:20:17 PM »
2S19 Msta-S, actually.

Thanks Logan. What was the tip-off for the type?
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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #53 on: March 31, 2022, 04:50:14 PM »
2S19 Msta-S, actually.

Thanks Logan. What was the tip-off for the type?

The 2S3 Akatsiya uses a modified tracked chassis of the Krug (SA-4 Ganef) surface-to-air missile system.
The 2S19 Msta-S uses a hull that looks like a T72, but has thinner armor.
The junk pile you're looking at could easily be mistaken for a T72 wreck.

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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #54 on: March 31, 2022, 09:49:09 PM »
The junk pile you're looking at could easily be mistaken for a T72 wreck.

Which is what I did, until apophenia made his SPG comment, then I saw the guns were wrong for the T-72. :-[
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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #55 on: March 31, 2022, 10:16:30 PM »
Thanks Logan. What was the tip-off for the type?

The 2S3 Akatsiya uses a modified tracked chassis of the Krug (SA-4 Ganef) surface-to-air missile system.
The 2S19 Msta-S uses a hull that looks like a T72, but has thinner armor.
The junk pile you're looking at could easily be mistaken for a T72 wreck.

Absolutely right!

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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #56 on: April 01, 2022, 12:22:45 AM »
Thanks Logan. What was the tip-off for the type?

The 2S3 Akatsiya uses a modified tracked chassis of the Krug (SA-4 Ganef) surface-to-air missile system.
The 2S19 Msta-S uses a hull that looks like a T72, but has thinner armor.
The junk pile you're looking at could easily be mistaken for a T72 wreck.

Absolutely right!


Of course it is! Use to teach that stuff in my sleep, which was good because most of the classes were asleep too.

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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #57 on: April 01, 2022, 12:24:52 AM »
The junk pile you're looking at could easily be mistaken for a T72 wreck.

Which is what I did, until apophenia made his SPG comment, then I saw the guns were wrong for the T-72. :-[

Look at all the MSTA suspension bits and pieces around the base of the T34 Memorial*

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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #58 on: April 01, 2022, 11:36:02 AM »
Thanks for the explanation Story  :smiley:

* Like how i brought the thread back on target there, Moderator? ...

Nice one   ;D
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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #59 on: April 02, 2022, 11:18:41 AM »
Now I understand the "Damaged tank" caption.  Our newspaper cropped the photo and I just saw the totalled recon vehicle. 

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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #60 on: April 26, 2022, 09:11:11 PM »
ZIPRA T-34/85 captured by the Rhodesians. Original caption claimed 1970, I think this might actually be later than that.

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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2022, 12:54:45 PM »
Chinese with 12 TPO 50 flamethrowers, although half a dozen water cooled Maxims could also work.

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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #63 on: July 15, 2023, 11:14:51 AM »
What if germans copied T-34 to produce a tank more german?


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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2023, 02:13:59 AM »
What if germans copied T-34 to produce a tank more german?



As opposed to the VK 30.01-30.02 (D) ??

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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #65 on: July 18, 2023, 09:42:10 AM »
2nd iteration  :smiley:


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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2023, 06:44:53 PM »
Just came across this Cuban T-34 equipped with a 100mm KS-19 anti-aircraft gun. Now I'm off to find some T-34 & KS-19 model kits :P








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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2023, 01:17:12 AM »
Just came across this Cuban T-34 equipped with a 100mm KS-19 anti-aircraft gun. Now I'm off to find some T-34 & KS-19 model kits :P


T-34 is easy but for the KS-19 you really only have two options:

In 1/35:



1/72:

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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #68 on: August 03, 2023, 02:34:58 AM »
Yeah I've had the Trumpeter KS-19 on my wish list for a few years now with the idea of possibly kit bashing it with an Is-4 or Is-7 in the future. Finding out the Cuban's made a real life kit bash tho has inspired me to finally get one. Just mulling over which one of the many T-34 kits to get with it now...


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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2023, 03:18:46 AM »
I have long planned to do something similar with a T-34 and a 1/35 Choroszy Soviet Model 1939 85mm Anti Aircraft Gun in the stash.
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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #70 on: August 03, 2023, 04:05:37 AM »
You mean the U-20? I have that one on my todo list too :P




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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #71 on: August 04, 2023, 01:07:35 AM »
Not quite - mine will be more of a lash up field job.  It will also probably look closer to a Russian equivalent of the Panzer Selbstfahrlafette IV Ausf. C / Grille 10 / 8.8cm Flak 37 auf Sonderfahrgestell (and thus probably closer to that Cuban one in appearance):







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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #72 on: August 07, 2023, 02:15:52 AM »
One I came across while looking up the U-20:  The SU-2-122, ordered in December of 1942. This was based on the T-34 chassis and was meant to provide indirect fire with 122 mm shells using two M-30 howitzers capable of firing simultaneously. The mass of the tank was 35 tons, and resulted in having to lengthen the T-34 hull by one road wheel, bringing to total up to six. The project was cancelled before being built.



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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #73 on: August 07, 2023, 05:09:20 AM »
I've looked at that blueprint several times over the years but never noticed the extra wheel until you mentioned it ;D A stretched T-34 could be useful for all sorts of whifiry tho...

Apparently you can use the Su-2-122 in World of Tanks, you can view the 3D model for it here
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Re: T-34 and variants, all around the world
« Reply #74 on: August 10, 2023, 10:54:24 PM »
The U-22 (aka the T-34/122), was a proposal from spring 1942 to fit the T-34 tank with a new turret equipped with a U-11 122mm howitzer. Only two crew members could fit inside the turret which was deemed not enough to operate the gun effectively, the project was canceled in favor of the SU-122. 

Factory #183 proposal


Factory #8 proposal



Unimodel make 1/72 scale kits of both versions.






Adam Wilder released a 1/35 resin conversion of the #8 version, long out of production tho so good luck finding one.