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Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« on: August 09, 2013, 05:51:06 AM »
Ok so most of will know im a Aircraft builder... Its what i know... But a kits a kit right ? So now i find myself building Tamiya's Challenger 1 (Mk3) for a friend of the family... But i have a odd question that im sure makes sense to Armour builders...

Why in the second stage are those parts at the front bolted on with nuts and bolts instead of being glued on ? They cant move now so whats the point ? Am i building myself into a tank corner ?

Oh when i have something to show dont worry there will be pics :)
« Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 06:46:57 AM by ChrisF »

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Re: Quick Tamiya Challenger Question...
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 09:32:56 AM »
Hi!
A pic wouldn´t be bad.

I guess its like on the most of the older Tamiya kits.

These nut and bolts are leftovers (?) of the motorized and remote control versions of the kit as for the holes in the lower hull for the cabels of the remote control and fixing the engine / gear box.


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Re: Quick Tamiya Challenger Question...
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 09:35:33 PM »
I thought it might be that but i couldnt be sure... Again lack of "Tank" experience :D

These parts on the instructions A24 and A24 ? Apparently they will hold the idler gear at the next step...



No point showing you the model as well... Its just a big black shadow at the moment...

Chris :)

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Re: Quick Tamiya Challenger Question...
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2013, 10:31:17 PM »
Hi Chris,

now I am sure. This parts are fitted with nuts and bolts so the track tension can be adjusted on the motorized models.

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Re: Quick Tamiya Challenger Question...
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2013, 04:43:13 AM »
Lovely... So i can tighten em down with no concern for the future of the build... Cheers matey :)

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Re: Quick Tamiya Challenger Question...
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2013, 07:18:48 PM »
Hi Chris,

guess to get it moveable you have to remove this little nose on part 24.


IMG_3357-vipfeil von panzerroland auf Flickr

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Re: Quick Tamiya Challenger Question...
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2013, 01:32:55 AM »
Heres another question has anyone tried Alclad on the soft plastic tracks that come with tamiya tanks ? I didnt even think about it but my only gunmetal is Alclad..  :/

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Re: Quick Tamiya Challenger Question...
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2013, 12:21:45 PM »
Heres another question has anyone tried Alclad on the soft plastic tracks that come with tamiya tanks ? I didnt even think about it but my only gunmetal is Alclad..  :/

just paint them various shades of brown (for mud) first and then dry brush them with gun metal.  Most modellers do the reverse, which is wrong 'cause from my experience mud gets between track links, not on top of them.  ;D

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 06:57:08 AM »
Well i thought i best let you guys know how its all getting along... And the answer is slowly, because again i dont normally do tanks so im getting easily confused as i go along...

This is the beasty that the customer has brought me... He wants it in NATO though like his one was :)



This is generally why i prefer aircraft... The repetition is killing me, Oh and i know the green looks bright but its just the camera :)



This shows the difference between the undercoat black i used and the proper nato black..



Rear panel took AGES... Mainly because my references all conflict with each other... Good job i can ask the guy im building it for



Fuel tanks were painted silver, hairsprayed, brown, hairsprayed than NATO greened... This is halfway through



More to come :D

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2013, 08:06:25 AM »
Looking good Chris!  You have the potential to become a very good builder of armor subjects from the looks of it so far :)
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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2013, 03:53:36 PM »
At the end of the day plastic is plastic but its more because i dont know the subject... So i need to research every single little thing rather than just getting on with it... Spitfires i know inside and out, Challengers ? Not so much lol

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2013, 10:19:34 PM »
At the end of the day plastic is plastic but its more because i dont know the subject... So i need to research every single little thing rather than just getting on with it... Spitfires i know inside and out, Challengers ? Not so much lol

Certainly a new experience. Looking good so far though. I like building tanks because clear parts and interiors are rare  :)
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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2013, 10:40:48 PM »
How odd, i was disappointed there was no interior lol And thought it odd the hull above the wheels doesnt blank off, although i guess once the skirts and such are on you wont see anything...

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2013, 06:42:24 AM »
Quick update:

Tanks are now on having been painted and weathered:



And tonight side skirts and front armour was affixed and completed... Now time for the turret !



ONWARD !! :D

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2013, 01:22:05 PM »
This is looking great!  :)
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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2013, 10:10:36 PM »
Well, for an aircraft builder, your tank ain't too shabby. 8)

Good work so far, mate, keep it up! :))

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2013, 02:09:16 AM »
Thank you guys it means a lot knowing that i can do these armour subjects some justice :)

Quick update had to rebuild the front after i realised the extra armour had to go on first :)

Also testing Photobucket so is this coming up ok ?



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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2013, 02:11:23 AM »
Looking very good Chris! 
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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2013, 02:40:05 AM »
Thank ya jeff :)

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2013, 06:11:38 AM »
Very impressive build ...  !!!!    :-* :-* :-*
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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2013, 05:08:05 AM »
Doin' well.  Haven't seen a green Chally with the extra armour before -- is it for a hot Cold War in Europe after the Chieftans were replaced ? ;)

Guess I should get mine finished :icon_sueno:

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2013, 06:04:48 AM »
KFOR c1999 had green & black cammo'd Cr 1 Mk III

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2013, 03:38:47 PM »
Yeah it seems after the first gulf war all sorts of combinations of armour appear... I showed the guy im building it for some references and he said load it up :D


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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2013, 06:41:08 AM »
Test fitting some of the turret parts :)



Coming along slowly... But good so far :)

Chris :)

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2013, 03:40:02 AM »
Yep!

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2013, 05:46:17 AM »
Looking good!  I love the Challenger, that's some gun isn't it  ........  :)

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2013, 09:38:30 AM »
Right sorry for the lack of updates i was trying to finish other things off...

More bits done to the Turret :)





Time for the black i think ;) 


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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2013, 01:49:16 AM »
I need to get my hands on some of these! You've inspired me!
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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2013, 03:40:03 AM »
I need to get my hands on some of these! You've inspired me!

Its typical tamiya ! Goes together much easier than it would sometimes appear... most injection marks for example are hidden on the inside... There is some fit issues with the locker on the back of the turret but

1: You cant tell when the turrets on cos the problem ison the underside.. And
2: You can always just replace it with the one from Accurate Armour if it annoys you that much...

More photos soon cos the first coat of black is already on :D

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2013, 03:42:05 AM »
Looking good!  I love the Challenger, that's some gun isn't it  ........  :)

Thanks a lot ! And yes... "Kaboom" indeed... ;)

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2013, 04:14:36 AM »





These photos make me think of a Challenger version of the Pantherturm style setups from WWII:



Maybe do a Challenger style one for a WWIII scenario?
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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2013, 08:32:48 AM »
Well ive got plenty of plans to go already so far so i'll leave that idea to someone else lol

Still i got the black on... Undercoated in Vallejo Model Air black then gone over in a patchy pattern in Model Air NATO Black :)





Just seen how awful these photos are i'll try and get some sharper ones done tomorrow :/

Chris :)

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2013, 08:35:40 AM »
Love the look of the Challenger and you build is doing it great justice.  Cant wait to see the finished product

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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2013, 08:37:48 AM »
Now that is looking kick arse !!!
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Re: Tamiya Challenger 1 Mk3 1:35th
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2013, 09:59:48 AM »
Thanks guys... Ennis that did make me giggle :) Im now trying to create some decent looking camo net for the bin at the front... Not sure if it'll work but we'll see...

Ive also been highly inspired by this new stuff when it comes to the base...

New Citadel paints - Agrellan Earth.


I was gonna simply do a concrete looking base but now im not so sure as this stuff has started giving me ideas ;)

Chris :)