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Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« on: June 03, 2013, 05:32:27 AM »
Hi there

Before introducing the model, allow me a short prologue to locate the story.

This is History...

He was baptized as "Miguel Maria do Patrocinio João Carlos Francisco de Assis Xavier de Paula Pedro
Alcântara António Joaquim Rafael Gabriel Gonzaga José Evaristo de Bragança e Bourbon "and was,
successively, Infant of Portugal, Lord Infantado and Duke of Beja, Duke of Braganza and Count of Samora Correia,
Prince Regent of Portugal and later, King of Portugal.

In practice he was known as "D. Miguel I of Portugal" to his supporters, and as "The Usurper" to his opponents,
who accused him of stealing the throne from his niece, D. Maria da Glória.

He was the main responsible for the Portuguese civil war that afflicted Portugal for more than three years, until
he was finally defeated in 1834. Shortly after the signing of the Concession of Évoramonte, and still off the Portuguese coast,
he denounced the deal, saying he had been forced to signed it, and as a protest against the resignation had been forced
to do to his rights to the crown of Portugal.

By doing so, he lost the right a substancial annuity that Portugal had been forced to pay him, leaving him without any
personal fortune, as he had already offered his personal treasure to his brother D. Pedro, as a contribution to the effort
to rebuild the country after the war.
He started living on the goodwill of the Pope and his supporters, and lived in exile. First in Italy, then in England and
finally in Germany, in the Grand Duchy of Baden-Württemberg, where he married Princess Adelaide of Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg,
who gave him six daughters and one son, and he died in 1866.


This is my Story...

In fact, contrary to what the "official History" would have us believe, D. Miguel did not live the rest of his life in Germany
just seeing the sights and making babies!

Since the early days of his quest that he had on his side two very powerful allies: the United States and the Vatican,
which, by the way, were the only two countries who acknowledged his title as King of Portugal in the early 1830s
(this detail is still true History, though!).

When D. Miguel was exiled, the U.S. and the Vatican support not only did not disappeared, but it was in fact strengthened,
although in a very discreet and confidential manner.

The objectives were clear to all parties involved. For the U.S. to support the future King of Portugal meant an important step
in its policy of economic expansionism in Africa and Asia. For the Vatican was the equivalent in religious terms,
allowing them to take the true faith to the most obscure and remote corners of the planet.

Now if you remember well, by that time the U.S. were doing secret tests with a new type of ships, called "ironclads".
A conception of French origin, but whose concept had already been used by naval forces from various countries in severalvarious wars,
although an incipient fashion.

Fact or fiction, the reality is that the U.S. were militarily supporting the construction of a secret naval force for
rapid intervention with this type of vessels, to support the cause of D. Miguel in regaining the throne of Portugal,
a process that went on during the 40 and 50 of the nineteenth century, until finishing abruptly in 1861, which contributed
to the sharp decline of D. Miguel'heath in the final years of his life.

The secret support of the U.S. Senate to the Miguelist cause channeled an important part of the financial resources and
slave labor to the construction of these ships. When President Lincoln came to power in 60, when confronted with the
situation decided to discontinue the aid program which contributed, among others factors, for the outbreak of the
American Civil War.

It seems that civil wars are something contagious ...



NMP D. Fuas Roupinho - A Portuguese "Ironclad"

Firstly NMP means Navio da Marinha Portuguesa (literally Ship of the Portuguese Navy). Clarified this point, then we move into
the description of the ship that originated the ship class with the same name, consisting of 6 more identical vessels,
of which only 2 came to be built: the MPN D. Fuas Roupinho and the NMP Martim Moniz.

As its name indicates, "iron clad" means that the ship had a strong metal shield that protected it from the projectiles hurled
by other ships or coastal defenses, especially the incendiary projectiles, so harmful to the ships built entirely in wood,
as hitherto usual.

To move such a mass was reinforced needed an energy source more powerful and concentrated than the wind, being the steam
the ideal solution at the time.

Thanks to the pioneering work of Richard Trevithick and George Stephenson, improved and enlarged by the genius of Armindo Castro
and Daniel de Almeida, the technology reached an apex that allowed to provide a power/weight ratio far beyond originally expected.

This allowed navigation much faster and quieter, with a minimal carbon footprint, given the warming of boilers was not due to the usual burning of coal,
but the process was shrouded in secrecy, and involved the reuse of animal and vegetable fats resulting from industrial processes.

And that´s the way the cookie crumbles!  ;)

Now, into the model itself.

It all started as a French vessel, the "La Superbe" form Heller,  which spent nearly 20 years in one of my shelves,
waiting for the rigging the never came. An ideal candidate for the job, so to speak.

And here are the self-explanatory photos of the evolution:




















Now it was time to choose the scale. And the N scale (1/160) won!


















To be continued....

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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2013, 01:39:09 PM »
Wicked Kool ... !!!!!!    :-* :-* :-*   Love the aground and the build,so far.  This is looking great,my friend. I can't wait to see what comes next.
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2013, 03:13:55 PM »
Wow!  I mean, seriously WOW,!!
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2013, 02:21:13 AM »
Oh this is going to be good!!!!  Glad to see another ship on here.  Feel free to build more, hint hint  ;)

All it needs is a giant ram bow and/or a bomb on a long pole on the bow!  Something to ruin the bad guy's day when you're outta ammo or can't shoot.
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2013, 04:05:02 AM »
Wow what a fantastic project! It's going to be a real treat to watch while this all comes together.

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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2013, 04:50:53 AM »
 I am intrigued, and look forward to seeing your progress.

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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2013, 05:06:57 AM »
Can't wait for another update  :)
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 02:58:52 PM »
Hi folks

Thansk for your kind words.


Ande here is a quick update on this project:








































Most of the structure is now complete.


To be continued....




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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2013, 05:45:12 PM »
That is very very cool!

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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2013, 10:32:51 PM »
Most Excellent!
 
 
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2013, 10:49:17 PM »
Very cool :) Keep it up :)
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2013, 10:52:57 PM »
Very much looks the business.  I like it a lot.

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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2013, 01:50:09 AM »
'tis brilliant!  :-*
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2013, 02:03:16 AM »
She's a very fine vessel sir!  I'd only suggest to add some sort of a ready ammo supply for that deck cannon.
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2013, 02:56:01 AM »
 Splendid progress!! I shall certainly be employing and exploiting some of your techniques in my next
 Steampunk build.

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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2013, 04:03:02 AM »
Oh yes! Coming along swimmingly!

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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2013, 09:17:22 AM »
Just incredible ... !!!!!!  I love this build you've done. It's just fantastic ......    :-* :-* :-*
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2013, 10:22:40 AM »
one of the neatist ships i have seen
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2013, 10:12:44 AM »
Agreed ... it's an amazing build (love the paddlewheel!). Looking forward to seeing this one painted  :)
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2013, 02:04:09 AM »
Looks fantastic, keep up the good work :)
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2013, 02:17:11 PM »
Go you good thing !!!

That is inspirational work.

Great vision there and it all just works.

Really looking forward for more.


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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2013, 02:20:55 PM »
Amazingly cool build  8)
Between Ironclad and SPS Polyandrous; model ship hulls will now be viewed for their inverted possibilities !
Another dimension of ship modeling has come to BTS  :)

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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2013, 02:44:15 PM »
Hi again

Thanks for you kind words!

And now is time for some detailing and scenery construction :)


























I hope you like it!


To be continued....

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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2013, 03:42:08 PM »
This just keeps getting better and better.
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2013, 07:54:06 PM »
Splendid work - nice one!  :) :) :)
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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2013, 04:16:12 AM »
The Gods have truly blessed you my son .........    Go forth and do other great works .........
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2013, 11:10:16 AM »
Great work on the gun positions.. but no Breech loading Parrotts or Dahlgrens as the heavy hitters ?

Great build.. it really is just getting better.
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2013, 03:32:47 PM »
Thanks for the comments!

And a few more advances on this project:









Some more "actors" for this play:


And the construction is pretty much done!






And finally the long waited primer!






Now is time for painting. Bring on the colors ... and the dancing girls !!! ;)
« Last Edit: June 19, 2013, 04:08:29 PM by Antonio Sobral »

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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2013, 06:14:16 PM »
Damn !!!!!!!  Your build just gets better and better !!!!!  Seems like every time I look at your build I'm more and more impressed with it.    This is truly an inspiring build,my friend. 
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2013, 11:50:16 PM »
My God man!!!  Where were you when the Floaty GB was underway?!  ;D

Can't wait to see this one finished.  Its keeps getting better and better.  LOVE the dockside scene and the especially the little steam tug on the ramp.

Have you done water before?  If not let me know and I can show you some easy methods.

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« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2013, 03:38:11 AM »
That's one heck of an update! I really like the details. and the figures will sure bring it all to life!

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« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2013, 06:35:31 AM »
Wow!!! After putting primer it looks totally awesome, especially all this details you made :)

I could say that the only thing missing right now is "Nautilius" from "The League of Extraordinary Gantelmen" docked in neighbourhood but even now it looks purly fantastic  :D
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2013, 04:51:51 PM »
Hi Folks

Thanks for the comments!

In the meanwhile, the painting is on its way!
















As for the "water", it will very very simple. I will just be using a very shallow layer of Vallejo Water Effects - Transparent water.


Thanks for looking!


P. S. - I received my Pegasus Nautilus this weekend. Guess what will be one of my next modelling projects! :)


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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2013, 03:26:00 AM »
That's really coming together nicely, Antonio! You have enviable painting skill indeed!

Thanks for giving us the "play-by-play" on this incredible project!

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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2013, 04:44:07 AM »
Wow, this is amazing. Absolutely beautiful paint job.

I think it's time for me to get a new hobby:


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« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2013, 05:00:47 AM »
Fantastic job.

Well done.

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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2013, 10:35:33 AM »
The old turn the hull upside down trick! Works every time! Brilliant job, I so build so well and quickly.

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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2013, 12:28:29 PM »
Awesome - totally love it, both ship and shore   :-*
Is one thing to see potential of inverted hull.  But figuring out right things to do in good balance-proportion would be challenging.
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« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2013, 03:37:56 PM »
The Modeling Muses have truly blessed you.my.boy .....    This is just fantastic !!!!!
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« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2013, 05:40:54 PM »
Very very cool!

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« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2013, 08:11:02 AM »
 :-* :-* oh omg!!!! and its a diorama!!!!!! truly great work here in the making!
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« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2013, 12:47:36 PM »
Officially gorgeous.. great work

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« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2013, 01:30:51 AM »
Thank you guys!

The dio is complete. Please find below some photos of the evolution until the "final product."























































































After all these "final" photos, I noticed that the ropes were still missing, so here are two more, with that detail fixed :)








And that is all for now!

I was a very fun project, and I hope you also enjoyed it.

Any question, please feel free to ask!












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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2013, 01:57:30 AM »
Take a look at Cliffy B's post in the back bar. The vintage pics include one of a Civil War ironclad that is strikingly similar. Great minds think alike!

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« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2013, 02:32:43 AM »


Simply outstanding work!!!
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2013, 02:33:39 AM »
Take a look at Cliffy B's post in the back bar. The vintage pics include one of a Civil War ironclad that is strikingly similar. Great minds think alike!


That would be this one?



I thought the exact same thing.
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« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2013, 02:48:57 AM »
Wow indeed.  All the paint applied in the right places brings that model to life and it looks so convincing. 
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2013, 06:26:28 AM »
 Indeed - marvelously subtle weathering.

 I think the ironclad in the photo above is the USS GALENA, a handsome vessel, but not generally considered a success...

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« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2013, 06:29:56 AM »
Incredible !!!!!!!   Just Incredible !!!!!!!!     Bravo ... !!!!!!!      :o  :o:o
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2013, 09:17:20 AM »
Seriously, seriously good! Awesome build, man! :D

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PS: Regarding the USS Galena, I get the feeling she wasn't clad in enough steel (note the holes in, & the shot wedged into her hull in the photo).
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« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2013, 01:14:35 PM »
Going to add my awesome to the rest of the awesome comments because.. yes the build is awesome

Great job and some excellent inspiration for a "What the ....???"  at some model show

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« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2013, 05:40:12 PM »
Brilliant.  Absolutely brilliant!

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« Reply #52 on: July 02, 2013, 05:52:22 AM »
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PS: Regarding the USS Galena, I get the feeling she wasn't clad in enough steel (note the holes in, & the shot wedged into her hull in the photo).

 Spot on, to my recollection - she was fairly thinly armored, even by the standards of the time. Her iron was eventually stripped, and she served the remainder of her career as an unarmored patrol vessel.

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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #53 on: July 02, 2013, 07:29:01 PM »
Wow!!! Sorry I havn't been keeping up on this one, but what a great surprise now I have: that looks really really good  - well done!  :-* :-* :-*
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2013, 11:14:51 PM »
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PS: Regarding the USS Galena, I get the feeling she wasn't clad in enough steel (note the holes in, & the shot wedged into her hull in the photo).

 Spot on, to my recollection - she was fairly thinly armored, even by the standards of the time. Her iron was eventually stripped, and she served the remainder of her career as an unarmored patrol vessel.

And, I seem to recall, she was later converted into a sail-powered "cargo" ship, having her engines & boilers removed to create cargo space.

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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #55 on: July 10, 2013, 08:07:24 PM »
Antonio, this is simply beautiful!
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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2013, 08:58:38 PM »
Hi Antonio,

simply fantastic! Everything looks right. Makes me wanting to steal your idea.

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Re: Ironclad vessel...in a Steampunk kind of way
« Reply #57 on: September 22, 2013, 07:32:55 AM »
This is about fifty different flavours of "awesome"!  :D :)
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