Author Topic: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier  (Read 19243 times)

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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2012, 07:24:11 AM »
Agreed...to me though it almost looks like it is 'channelling' the M3 Stuart.


Wow, no kidding! A modernized M3 Stuart!


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The XM800W was a 6 wheeled version of the same requirement.
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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2012, 07:55:20 AM »
Probably about as survivable as a Stuart too ....... I like my tanks like I like my cars, with a bit of real steel on em  ;D

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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2012, 08:20:11 AM »
Agreed...to me though it almost looks like it is 'channelling' the M3 Stuart.

Wow, no kidding! A modernized M3 Stuart!

Makes me wonder if a 75mm HMC variant is do-able......
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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2012, 10:00:51 AM »
Makes me wonder if a 75mm HMC variant is do-able......

Is there a modern equivalent of the M116?

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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2012, 01:33:20 PM »
Well, the Mod 56 105mm is probably the closest spiritual successor to the 75mm pack howitzer, but the US never used it.  I think the M49 105mm Howitzer from the M52 HMC and LVTH-6 would be your best fit, though.



Interestingly enough, the weapon is still in use by the at least the Philippine Marine Corps today.

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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2012, 08:10:37 PM »
One of the original T114 prototypes had a tank destroyer turret for the 105mm recoiless rifle.

It was autoloading from a magazine on the right-hand side.  The loading action was interesting, the barrel, with the attached chamber slide forwards, a round slid in from the right and the chamber and barrel slid back, encasing the round until the breech was closed.  When it fired, the process was repeated with breech opening, the case being ejected to the rear and then reloading occured..  Rather a complex arrangement but necessary because of the way the US Recoilless rifles worked. 

The British developed a similar but different weapon (but I've never seen pictures of it, only read descriptions), with a rotary set of chambers, like a revolver.  That was possible because they used the Rheinmetall frangible based case.  Each chamber would align with the barrel, slide forward to make a seal and the round would fire.  The cylinder would then retract, rotate to the next chamber and the empty case would then be ejected.   The Germans used the some principle in their recoilless 20-30mm cannons. 

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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2012, 04:41:47 AM »
That wouldn't happen to be the same RR as the ones used here?

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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2012, 04:07:52 PM »
Mmmm...me likely.  Any more details?
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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2012, 04:59:38 PM »
Ta
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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2012, 08:20:34 PM »
That wouldn't happen to be the same RR as the ones used here?

Could be.  Looks like a revolver system with those big boxes.  It's secret though!  ;D

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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2012, 01:37:15 AM »
That M114 with the Alvis turret...... it looks a bit tall......  :D

How easy/difficult would it be to modify an AFV's internal scheme though (since some posts in this thread mentioned the idea of improving crew safety and survivability)?

(Yeah, I do like the idea of a M114-based mobile gun after hearing somewhere that a French- forgot which type- short 90mm gun turret was tested on the M114 as well.)
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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2012, 03:07:53 AM »
The proposed follow on M114/M113 replacement, the XM800, was an interesting looking vehicle too .......



That puddle of oil looks a bit ominous  ---- unless someone had parked a Harley Davidson there before hand     ;D ;D ;D

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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2016, 06:08:16 PM »
topic pinned until the issue with my making an edit to my OP can be unfooked.

Fixed...I think.
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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2016, 12:29:58 AM »
Nope.  Still giving me the run-around without the courtesy of a reach-around :/
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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2016, 02:28:50 AM »
Seems to be you mate as I was just able to modify it without problem ... maybe I just have the power...
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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2016, 03:30:41 AM »
Strange too!  It appears to be this topic only that has this problem.  :/
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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2020, 09:20:38 PM »
I just read a comment in relation to the "M114 - American BMD" 😯

Maybe an east/west engine arrangement, making more usable hull space for troops....
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Re: M114 Armored Command and Reconnaissance Carrier
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2020, 01:34:41 AM »
As an APC for infantry the M114 would be a huge fail.  No space inside for a squad, let alone a five man fire team.  Barely enough room for the original three man crew and all of their kit plus the OVE/OVM. 
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