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Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« on: April 21, 2012, 03:53:36 PM »
Hi folks,

A thread dedicated to your ideas for big air launched missiles.  Eg.

GAM-63 RASCAL:



Avro Blue Steel:



AGM-28 Hound Dog:



GAM-87 Skybolt:



P-270 Moskit:



Raduga Kh-22:



Raduga Kh-20:

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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2012, 04:29:26 PM »
They be big indeed.  Could be leading to an era of air launched submarines !

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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2012, 09:01:14 PM »
I made this up (top photo) which is actually a modified Tallboy bomb.  The idea is, it was carried by a TSR2 but now I'm thinking of having it with a motor as an accelerator (or to maintain speed - whatever),  I had shortened the tail cone which left a large hole in the end (middle photo), which could be an exhaust outlet.  I'll add an intake further forward, something like how I've modified this Martel (bottom two photos)

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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2012, 10:08:11 PM »
I got to see that first little Rascal the day before yesterday.



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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 02:34:24 AM »
I uploaded and previously shared some of the screen shots of the 3D models I had created of the Skybolt, Green Cheese, and Grand Slam II previously on that other forum.  Here is a link to the same subjects now contained in my FaceBook Album "SketchUp - Missile Shapes"

My Skybolt model created in SketchUp with a figure to establish scale/size of the subject:


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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2012, 03:13:10 AM »
Are there any kits of the Skybolt?
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 03:33:33 AM »
Are there any kits of the Skybolt?

Only one that I know of and it is from Skarkit in France: Skarkit 1/72nd scale resin AGM-48 Skybolt

To make one from scratch would be relatively easy since the shape is nothing more than a long cylinder shape with a parabolic cure on one end and a cone shape at the other end for the one version.  Substituting the cone shape for a compound cone-truncated cone-cylinder shape for the second version would be easy enough to do as well. 
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2012, 04:29:44 AM »
Hmmmm.....
Hmmmmm.

This is all lending more and more credence to stretching a Monogram B-29 Turboprop and putting something very very scary in its rather modified belly.   Such as the air launched Militiaman nuclear ICBM.    Flown from leased bases in the Yukon Territories.      (Goes upstairs and looks under bed.....yep, there are two unstarted Monogram B-29's there, still in shrinkwrap  :-* )
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2012, 04:33:02 AM »
(Goes upstairs and looks under bed.....yep, there are two unstarted Monogram B-29's there, still in shrinkwrap  :-* )

Keep me in mind if you ever feel the need to get rid of your Fat Man and Little Boy shapes :)
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2012, 04:40:21 AM »
Well, the RASCAL for one was originally designed to be able to be carried by both the B-29 and B-50 (see photo below), so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to have one carry it operationally.

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2012, 04:44:15 AM »
Oh really.   I had no idea.   :)  Thanks!
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 04:48:53 AM »
Another to add to the list (especially after receiving a couple of sets in 1/48 - see photo below) would be the English Electric Blue Water missile:



Of course, I don't quite know what I will do with these, though the previously suggested use on either a Vigilante or Hustler are certainly appealing...as is the idea of perhaps turning a couple into some sort of super anti-shipping missile.
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2012, 04:55:24 AM »
Of course, the fact that I just purchased this:



Might have had something to do with the starting of this topic... ;)
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2012, 05:00:28 AM »
Box scale?


As far as the Blue Waters,  would there be any way to put two under a Sea Vixen?
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2012, 05:03:32 AM »
Of course, the fact that I just purchased this:

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Might have had something to do with the starting of this topic... ;)

Nice score!  What scale is that kit?  I remember the Rascal missile shape that was provided in the very old missile display kit that was around 1/96th scale.  Your kit looks to be a lot larger than that. 
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2012, 05:04:29 AM »
1/48 guys!!!
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2012, 05:14:08 AM »

As far as the Blue Waters,  would there be any way to put two under a Sea Vixen?

Given the Blue water was suppose to be in the vicinity of 3,000 pounds (1,400 kg) it might be stretching it a bit...though maybe with reheat, rocket boost and a good catapult it could have happened...
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2012, 06:23:03 AM »
Might have to come up with a Blue Water Light then.... ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2012, 11:10:20 AM »
Stepping back to the B-29/B-50 for a jiff:

Stretch B-29, turboprops, swept aft stabilizers.   Enlarged RASCAL called, say for instance, the Rebellious Redneck or something as such, and for self defense 2 Phoenix and two Sidewinders.   In USN service circa 1980.     (or whenever pre-SALT-II was)   Presumptions:   The Superfortress was kept in service as an adjunct to USAF and USN bombers and was used for this type of mobile missile delivery system.   I guess that means a bunch of frugal Baby Boomers in positions of power so it truly would be a Whiff.  (Epic Facepalm emoticon inserted here).

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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2012, 11:19:37 AM »
Stepping back to the B-29/B-50 for a jiff:

Stretch B-29, turboprops, swept aft stabilizers.   Enlarged RASCAL called, say for instance, the Rebellious Redneck or something as such, and for self defense 2 Phoenix and two Sidewinders.   In USN service circa 1980.     (or whenever pre-SALT-II was)   Presumptions:   The Superfortress was kept in service as an adjunct to USAF and USN bombers and was used for this type of mobile missile delivery system.   I guess that means a bunch of frugal Baby Boomers in positions of power so it truly would be a Whiff.  (Epic Facepalm emoticon inserted here).

Perhaps a B-54 or the original tubroprop B-52 design?

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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2012, 12:24:11 PM »
Daryl - I second your statement.  :)

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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2012, 01:13:27 PM »
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Re: Air Launched Missiles...big ones!!!
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2012, 10:45:09 PM »
Maybe make use of the Cutting Edge Tu-4 Turboprop/AWACS conversion?


I've got one of those and guess what --- two engines missing   :icon_punal:

I remember reading on ARC about it sometime ago too, got a lot of people p*ssed off with the owner as he wouldn't acknowledge it.  I bought the set thinking I could cast up the two missing from the existing two, but I've since found out they different.  Mind you I do have the Tu-95 in my stash -- I think they have the same engine configuration