Author Topic: Extended Vietnam War Rules of Engagement  (Read 756 times)

Offline LemonJello

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Extended Vietnam War Rules of Engagement
« on: February 28, 2022, 10:43:16 PM »
**Creedence Clearwater Revival's Fortunate Son plays in the background**

Here are the Rules of Engagement for the 2022 Extended Vietnam War Group Build:

1. The build will run from 0001 local time 1 March 2022 until 2359 local time 30 April 2022. If final objectives are not met by the announced end of the group build, an extension may be considered.

2. Have fun!

3. Digital profiles, physical models and alt-history stories are welcome.

4. Direct all questions, concerns and complaints to the moderator.

5. Again, most importantly, have fun!

Background: Instead of the Vietnam War/Second Indochina War ending with the fall of Saigon in 1975, "what if" the war continued.  This continuation could come from a number of divergent points in the timeline. Such as: (this is not an all-encompassing list, nor is it meant to trivialize or minimize other national contributions)

- US involvement doesn't end in 1973 and is instead ramped up to counter increased support from the USSR and/or the PRC
- ARVN and allied forces stage an amphibious landing in N. Vietnam with alternate outcomes depending on success/failure of the landing force
- S. Vietnamese forces successfully counter N. Vietnamese forces and establish a armistice much like the Korean Peninsula
- Chinese/Russian forces take a more direct role in supporting PAVN operations in S. Vietnam
- Direct conflict between US/USSR/PRC in the air, on sea and on the ground, in and around Southeast Asia, with or without "deniability"

I would be interested in hearing others takes on what an "Extended Vietnam War" means to them.

Added 3/3/2022: Extended can also be taken to mean Expanded ie: more participants (on either side) or perhaps even the conflict spilling over borders in a more overt way.

**Fortunate Son fades out, to be replaced by The Rolling Stones' Paint It, Black**

« Last Edit: March 04, 2022, 01:22:34 AM by LemonJello »

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Re: Extended Vietnam War Rules of Engagement
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2022, 12:03:56 AM »
I think I would be playing 'Here comes the Rooster' by Alice in Chains   >:D

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Re: Extended Vietnam War Rules of Engagement
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2022, 02:13:30 AM »
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Re: Extended Vietnam War Rules of Engagement
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2022, 07:30:50 AM »
I'd go with LemonJello's Fortunate Son (with Creedence's Run Through the Jungle in a loop).

If we're talking Ozzy Osbourne, the relevant song was Sabbath's War Pigs. Nothing subtle there!
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And loot some for the old folks who can't loot for themselves
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Offline Kelmola

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Re: Extended Vietnam War Rules of Engagement
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2022, 04:43:16 PM »
Growing up, I watched China Beach on the television, so Reflections by The Supremes is the definite Vietnam War song for me.

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Re: Extended Vietnam War Rules of Engagement
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2022, 01:11:55 AM »
Would extended also include extended scope and/or participants, not just duration? For example, the UK being involved in the '60s.
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Re: Extended Vietnam War Rules of Engagement
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2022, 01:03:56 AM »
Would extended also include extended scope and/or participants, not just duration? For example, the UK being involved in the '60s.

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Re: Extended Vietnam War Rules of Engagement
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2022, 10:46:31 PM »
Would extended also include extended scope and/or participants, not just duration? For example, the UK being involved in the '60s.

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Offline LemonJello

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Re: Extended Vietnam War Rules of Engagement
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2022, 12:47:57 AM »
I thought I had responded to our Fearless Leader...

Yes, expanded in terms of participants would be included.  Also, I did add to the first post that expanded/extended could also mean overt cross border "activity" in Laos,  Cambodia or elsewhere. 

Offline LemonJello

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Re: Extended Vietnam War Rules of Engagement
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2022, 08:43:46 PM »
Folks, we are at (or slightly over) the half-way point of the Group Build.


That is all.

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Hmm...
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2022, 11:29:59 AM »
...Nixon doesn't invade Cambodia April 1970 instead sends Kissinger to Beijing then Moscow months earlier, swings deal to hold full-scale U.N. sponsored plebiscite unlike faked 1955 Referendum catapulting Ng Đnh Diệm in power, covertly promising Kỳ, Thieu, all of South Vietnam's best, brightest and crooked unconditional U.S. sanctuary regardless of vote outcome simultaneously offering Ho Chi Minn's Vietnam most favored U.S. trading status if they'd abide by plebiscite results either way else Hanoi-Haiphong be "bombed into stone age" if they'd didn't, U.S. simultaneously offering same trade status to Communist China regardless. No more anti-war riots, no Kent State massacre, Vietnam War over in 1971, Nixon victoriously reelected sans Watergate break-in 1972, possibly no 1973 Arab Oil Embargo, no extended war group build necessary, sorry 'bout that :icon_crap:
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Offline LemonJello

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Re: Extended Vietnam War Rules of Engagement
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2022, 08:28:35 PM »
With no requests (in triplicate) on my desk for an extension, I hereby declare the Extended Vietnam War Group Build closed.  Polls will be up shortly.