Beyond The Sprues

Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => MiG GB => Topic started by: ed s on October 07, 2018, 04:39:59 AM

Title: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: ed s on October 07, 2018, 04:39:59 AM
Before the MiG 15 came to fame battling Messerschmitts over the Danube River, the MiG 14 was fighting pirates in the Great Mongolian Sea.
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: ed s on October 07, 2018, 04:46:27 AM
Photo of what I'm starting with. Basic model is an old Airfix bagged MiG 15.

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/20181005_224809_zps5eheatkx.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/esveum/media/20181005_224809_zps5eheatkx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: apophenia on October 07, 2018, 05:47:54 AM
Hmmm, interesting. MiG-15 with P-51 wings and tail?
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: Frank3k on October 07, 2018, 05:50:34 AM
Another Ed masterpiece! The Airfix Mig-15 is a good start. It bears about as much resemblance to a real Mig-15 as the Aurora "Mig 19" (https://fantastic-plastic.com/AuroraMIG-19Page.htm) does to the Mig-19.
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: finsrin on October 25, 2018, 03:50:08 PM
Hmmm, interesting. MiG-15 with P-51 wings and tail?

Thatz a concept.  Sure Russians would have access to some P-51s by 1946 to copy its great wings.  Mig-14 as a precursor to Mig-15.
Built bright green plastic Aurora "Mig-19" back in the day. 
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 26, 2018, 03:33:13 AM
Hmmm, interesting. MiG-15 with P-51 wings and tail?

Thatz a concept.  Sure Russians would have access to some P-51s by 1946 to copy its great wings.  Mig-14 as a precursor to Mig-15.
Built bright green plastic Aurora "Mig-19" back in the day.

Wish I could upvote this comment.

A straight, laminar flow wing & tail feathers on a MiG is one heckuva concept!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: ed s on October 26, 2018, 11:37:30 AM
Yes, I'm still around and even found some modeling time the last few days. For those who recognized the Mustang wings, you are correct. However, they are not the same scale as the Mig. They are from a snap together toy that is about 20% larger than 1/72. But they fit the Mig fuselage perfectly.


Here is the Mig as of today. Major assembly finished and first layer of putty in place and ready to start sanding.

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/20181024_220243_zpshunfgpnu.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/esveum/media/20181024_220243_zpshunfgpnu.jpg.html)

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/20181024_220236_zpse6ygabym.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/esveum/media/20181024_220236_zpse6ygabym.jpg.html)

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/20181024_220228_zpsya0pwrqm.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/esveum/media/20181024_220228_zpsya0pwrqm.jpg.html)

Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 27, 2018, 03:06:56 AM
Looking good
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 27, 2018, 05:09:28 AM
I like the look of that layout and bonus points for going with a T tail!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: LemonJello on October 29, 2018, 01:25:13 AM
Looks like the start of a fearsome pirate hunter for the defense of the Motherland.
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: taiidantomcat on October 30, 2018, 10:52:25 AM
Great idea!  :smiley:
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: tankmodeler on October 31, 2018, 12:31:02 AM
Looks not unlike a T-tail FJ1 Fury, but actually a bit prettier.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FJ-1_(modified).jpg#/media/File:FJ-1_(modified).jpg

Paul
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: ed s on November 01, 2018, 09:46:00 AM
Just about done with PSR stage. Here it is with a coat of primer.

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/20181031_212036_zpszukh7uhz.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/esveum/media/20181031_212036_zpszukh7uhz.jpg.html)

Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: finsrin on November 01, 2018, 10:15:35 AM
Bet Russians copied much of FJ-1 then added Miggy touches with eye toward Mig-15.
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: tankmodeler on November 01, 2018, 10:56:23 PM
Just about done with PSR stage. Here it is with a coat of primer.

Purely from the real aerodynamics standpoint, the intersection of the wing and fuselage would not be that sharp or concave. It causes significant interference drag, especially at speed where compressibility and transonic flow are expected. That interface really needs a fillet to smooth out the airflow in that corner.

However, as Faithful Patsy once said, "It's only a model."  ;D

(http://montypython.wikia.com/wiki/Patsy?file=Gilliam_as_Patsy.jpg)
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: ed s on November 01, 2018, 11:40:17 PM
Just about done with PSR stage. Here it is with a coat of primer.

Purely from the real aerodynamics standpoint, the intersection of the wing and fuselage would not be that sharp or concave. It causes significant interference drag, especially at speed where compressibility and transonic flow are expected. That interface really needs a fillet to smooth out the airflow in that corner.

However, as Faithful Patsy once said, "It's only a model."  ;D

([url]http://montypython.wikia.com/wiki/Patsy?file=Gilliam_as_Patsy.jpg[/url])


Sometimes, I'm too lazy or in a hurry to worry about all the minor aerodynamic details.  :smiley:
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: ed s on November 16, 2018, 08:33:58 AM
Developed by MiG to use the newly available RR Nene engine, the Mig 14 was a significant improvement over the early Mig 9 and was put into production. Only about 500 units were produced before the new swept wing Mig 15 was ready for production. It was roughly in the same class, performance, and mission as the early USAF F-84 and the French Dassault Ouragon.

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/20181115_144520_zps2dy94ddj.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/esveum/media/20181115_144520_zps2dy94ddj.jpg.html)

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/20181115_144733_zpsibxjd4ub.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/esveum/media/20181115_144733_zpsibxjd4ub.jpg.html)

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/20181115_144543_zpstlghoqla.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/esveum/media/20181115_144543_zpstlghoqla.jpg.html)

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/20181115_144529_zpsfuybpoxg.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/esveum/media/20181115_144529_zpsfuybpoxg.jpg.html)

The aircraft shown was flown by the Mongolian AF and used against pirates on the Great Mongolian Sea during the late 1940's.
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: kitnut617 on November 16, 2018, 08:57:09 AM
Lovely Ed   :-* :-* :-*

I like the way you used the same type of weapon load as I did on my Bronco
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: Frank3k on November 16, 2018, 11:31:45 AM
Looks fantastic, Ed! The largest body of water in Mongolia is Uvs Lake (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvs_Lake) at around 50 x 50 miles, so the Fathead would have had an easy time hunting pirates.
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: ed s on November 16, 2018, 11:48:22 AM
Looks fantastic, Ed! The largest body of water in Mongolia is Uvs Lake (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvs_Lake) at around 50 x 50 miles, so the Fathead would have had an easy time hunting pirates.

I guess WHIFF world has some different geography.
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: finsrin on November 16, 2018, 02:23:12 PM
Fine example of everything Mig-14 was or could or should have been.  :smiley:
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: Brian da Basher on November 16, 2018, 05:36:54 PM
Wow did that ever finish up a treat!

Great stuff, Ed!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: Some Duck with an Ultimax on November 16, 2018, 06:59:32 PM
Beautiful paintjob!

And I always maintain that there is no aircraft which looks worse with a T-Tail.
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 17, 2018, 01:38:47 AM
Love that paint scheme. :smiley:
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: Buzzbomb on November 17, 2018, 08:10:33 PM
Came together really nicely
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 18, 2018, 04:53:20 AM
This one also reminds me a bit of the Gloster CXP 1001:

(https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot/modernplanes/modern-g/gloster-cxp-1001-2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/uFoMZep.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/yYuqjZB.jpg)
Title: Re: MiG 14 Fathead
Post by: kitnut617 on November 18, 2018, 06:23:59 AM
This one also reminds me a bit of the Gloster CXP 1001:

(https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot/modernplanes/modern-g/gloster-cxp-1001-2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/uFoMZep.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/yYuqjZB.jpg)

I'll have to get my kit built, I dug it out earlier in the year for the Allied '46 GB but didn't have time to make it.