Beyond The Sprues

Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: tc2324 on July 04, 2012, 05:50:19 AM

Title: Chimera
Post by: tc2324 on July 04, 2012, 05:50:19 AM
Just ordered a P-51 and F-16 to have a crack at making the forums signiture profile.  ;)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/beyondtheSprues-1-1.jpg)

Just a few questions.....,

1. Can I? Or is this someones work who may get a bit upset seeing it turned into plastic?

2. Has this been done before?

3. Which helicopter was used for the rotors and engine bay?
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: deathjester on July 04, 2012, 08:13:25 AM
Isn't it one of Tophe's profiles?
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 04, 2012, 03:58:05 PM
The profile is known as the Chimera and is the work of Chris (aka coops213) who used the assistance of Damian (aka damian) and based upon a sketch I did that was based upon a suggestion by Jon (aka jcf).

That said, let me answer your questions:

Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: tc2324 on July 04, 2012, 10:20:33 PM
Cheers GTX  :)

Although I think I`m going to use a 4 blade rotor rather than the 2.  ;)
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 05, 2012, 02:02:24 AM
Quote from: tc2324 on July 04, 2012, 10:20:33 PM
Cheers GTX  :)

Although I think I`m going to use a 4 blade rotor rather than the 2.  ;)

Go for it!
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: ChrisF on July 05, 2012, 05:22:28 AM
Oh dear god ! Your crazy !!

...But our kind of crazy to be fair....
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: tc2324 on July 06, 2012, 08:03:50 PM
Ok, so the 1/72 scale F-16 and P-51 are on their way. In the end I opted for a 1/144 Chinook kit for the rotor assembly so only 3 blades on this one now.  :)

I think I going to build this one in flight as well as trying to figure out the u/c positioning is giving me a headache....  ???
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: taiidantomcat on July 07, 2012, 03:02:15 AM
You could make it a "four poster" Use the mustangs front gear, and the F-16s rear gear.  >:D
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 07, 2012, 03:51:14 AM
Well, an early version did have tank tracks...

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/image002.png)
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 07, 2012, 03:55:43 AM
By the way, here is another early iteration:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/image001-1.jpg)

Along with some other colour variations:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/GreenChimera.png)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/GreyChimera.png)

Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: deathjester on July 07, 2012, 08:10:32 AM
I have made a Rotodyne a little like that, from an old Airfix Mig 21 - I'll find some pics for you
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: deathjester on July 08, 2012, 07:18:06 AM
Here we go...

(http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz85/Randleclan/photo-37.jpg)

(http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz85/Randleclan/photo-21.jpg)

(http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz85/Randleclan/photo-22.jpg)

The Supermarine Spartan:  Just your average supersonic nuclear armed attack Gyrodyne...
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: Tophe on July 08, 2012, 04:51:40 PM
This project is wonderful... Go!
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: RussC on July 09, 2012, 12:08:28 AM
Autogyro's rule!  :)
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: finsrin on July 11, 2012, 10:38:45 AM
Such a feature - rear firing tail missile.  That'll git um.   :)
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: Brian da Basher on July 11, 2012, 04:23:44 PM
That had awesome written all over it, deathjester!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: deathjester on July 12, 2012, 01:07:38 AM
Cheers!  But I thought it had 'XH162' written  all over it?  ;D :-\ ;D

Nice model to build - realy just fell together like it was meant to be.

Take one Airfix Mig 21, and assemble the fuselage as normal, the nose from an Airfix Mosquito, the missiles from an F101 Voodoo, the glove pylons from an F14, a small round drum shape, and whatever suitably sized rotor blades from whatever toy helicopter you can find (mine has folding blades - bonus!)

Then trim down the wingtips to the outer fences, use one of the pylons to mount the drop tank over the engine bay, then fit SNEB rocket pods to the wingtips.  Place a spare afterburner on the exhaust, then cut the Mosquito nose to fit snugly onto the spine of the Mig, and cut a hole to fit the drum shape into.  Then glue the base of the rotor hub to the top of the drum shape, and slot it into the Mosquito nose.  Job done!
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: tc2324 on July 12, 2012, 04:30:23 AM
Thanks all for your input, plenty to think about them as the kits haven`t shown yet.....  :( 

Think my main problem wil be blending the vertical oblong fuselage to the horizontal flat fuselage of the F-16....  :-\

 
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: tc2324 on July 12, 2012, 06:20:20 PM
Yay....!

The kits have arrived.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/014-45.jpg)

As you can see, no expense has been spared.....  ;D
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: tc2324 on July 13, 2012, 02:54:57 AM
So the first cuts have now taken place and my initial thoughts are that while I would love to make this as true to form shown, there are some areas that may well need to be modified due to the actual physical aspects of both kits.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/019-21.jpg)

As you can see I`m thinking about replacing the P-51`s intake for the F-16`s. This is simply because it may be easier to intergrate the two sections. I have also cut that V shape on the top of the F-16 kit to remove the slight incline you get at that section. I have also taken the rear engine nacelle off the Chinook and preping that for construction. That so far, has been the easy bit.

Of course, I`m not really sure what to do with the bits I don`t need now, but I`m thinking along the lines of James Bond for some reason.......

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/016-36.jpg)
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: Brian da Basher on July 13, 2012, 03:31:59 AM
You're off to a magnificent start and the F-16 nose grafted on the P-51 tail is a nice bonus!

Building one chimera would seem quite the project. Building two is almost balmy!

Go, tc, go!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: tc2324 on July 14, 2012, 05:43:59 AM
Spent a bit more time tonight with the cutters and scalpel trimming some of the offending areas in detail.

Forgive the makeshift stand and masking tape holding it all together, but this shows you the approx layout of the design and as you can see I kept the F-16`s intake instead of the rather small one from the P-51. (That was a bit of jiggery pokery I dont want to repeat I can tell you).  :o

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/005-89.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/008-76.jpg)
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 14, 2012, 05:57:34 AM
Coming along very nicely!!!
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: ChrisF on July 15, 2012, 01:01:05 AM
Awesome
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: Tophe on July 15, 2012, 11:47:33 AM
Wonderful! :-*
When the central tape is removed, a lot of work will appear to be done, I fear...
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: tc2324 on July 16, 2012, 05:05:30 AM
Your not wrong Tophe...  ;)

A few pictures of the progress over the last 24 hours.

First on the agenda was to file down part of the intake fitting to get the right angle and a nice solid foundation to join the fuselages together.

The front end...., well...., whats left of the P-51 was completed.

Then I added some sprue to add a bit of strengh, which now seems quite apt considering this forums name.

And last but not least, the joining of two kits. It seems to have gone well so far...., but boy are there some bigs holes to fill.......  :o

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/001-103.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/002-115.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/003-118.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/004-102.jpg)
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: Tophe on July 16, 2012, 11:42:08 AM
Wow! Impressive!
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 16, 2012, 05:16:44 PM
Quote from: Tophe on July 16, 2012, 11:42:08 AM
Wow! Impressive!

Indeed.
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: tc2324 on July 17, 2012, 06:31:35 PM
Rotor engine nacelle is fitted and the PSR is on and dry with some sanding and shaping already began.

RSI here I come....... ;D

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/002-116.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/003-119.jpg)

Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: Brian da Basher on July 18, 2012, 04:29:54 AM
This has got to be one of the most amazing projects I've seen all year!

My hat's off to you tc!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: Tophe on July 18, 2012, 12:07:58 PM
Amazing and difficult! Yes, congratulations...
Title: Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
Post by: tc2324 on July 19, 2012, 02:05:27 AM
Camo is now on but there are a few areas that need touch ups which tends to be the case with rattle cans anyway.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/002-117.jpg)
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: ChrisF on July 19, 2012, 07:59:13 AM
Quite incredible !
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: Tophe on July 19, 2012, 10:32:45 AM
Wow! Great! :-*
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: tsrjoe on July 19, 2012, 08:02:11 PM
waw im impressed, youv created what others (me included) have only thought of building, cool
its looking good cant wait to see her finished. Just wondering, are you doing it undercart down? be interesting to see how it looks with wheels

 8) cheers, Joe
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: tc2324 on July 19, 2012, 08:09:12 PM
Cheers guys.  :)

Joe, still not sure what I`m going to do about the u/c. While I`d like to see it on 4 wheels, I also think I`d like to see it as it is with the gear up as in the profile.

If that`s the case, then I need to work on a stand.. Good job I have a lump of 2x4 and a coat hanger...  ;)
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: taiidantomcat on July 20, 2012, 12:26:37 AM
That is like scary accurate! really shows yours skills in bashing, planning, and your sense of scale  :-*
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: Dr. YoKai on July 20, 2012, 03:49:00 AM
 What he said-great job fusing the parts!
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: tc2324 on July 20, 2012, 04:18:56 AM
Thanks all for the comments.  :)

A couple of progress mock up pictures for review. All the bits that spin are blu tak`ed into place for the shots. Just waiting for some paint now to start on the undersides. Apologies for the picture quality, is it me or is it starting to get dark quickly all of a sudden..?

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/007-73.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/009-61.jpg)

Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: Brian da Basher on July 20, 2012, 04:49:02 AM
That, sir, is truly a wonder to behold!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: Frank3k on July 20, 2012, 06:53:50 AM
This is just amazing! And I thought your Tu-90 was jaw dropping!
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: tc2324 on July 22, 2012, 04:26:51 AM
Another profile update. Light blue undersides added, prop on, missiles on and added a wash for some weathering effect. (Don`t want it to look too clean now do we). Had a set back with the rotors, one snapped off so glad the Chinook runs on two. Decals will be next, followed by the rotor and then I need to work on the stand.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/004-103.jpg)
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: tc2324 on July 22, 2012, 06:53:41 PM
Calling this one done now, so here`s what I wanted to create.......,

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/beyondtheSprues-1-1-1.jpg)






...... and this is what I got......,




(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/007-74.jpg)


Due to lack of decals I haven`t been able to fully red star this up and I have also had to renumber it `Red 14` as a `12` wasn`t in the spares.

Here`s another pic of the top view for those who may be interested. ;)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/008-77.jpg)

Hope you enjoyed the madness........  ;)
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: taiidantomcat on July 22, 2012, 11:42:19 PM
Well done  :-*
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 23, 2012, 02:17:30 AM
Outstanding!!! :)
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: ChrisF on July 23, 2012, 07:27:09 PM
Someone had to be crazy enough to try it... But only one actually did  !!

Awesome work sir you should be proud !!

Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: tc2324 on July 23, 2012, 10:43:24 PM
Thanks guys. I think it came out well enough, but I`m still in two minds as to wether I should of added the tank tracks...?

I might revisit this one at a later date.  >:D  ;)

Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: coops213 on August 04, 2012, 04:08:08 PM
Oh wow! That's friggin' awesome! When I was shading the profile I kind of thought it could never actually work as a model, the sections of the P-51 and F-16 at the junction of the two were so different. Looks like it fought you a bit but you managed to pull it off. This really sums up the motto in the site banner: "where imagination trumps reality".

Fantastic job!
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: Tophe on August 05, 2012, 01:46:42 PM
Very wonderful result! :-* Congratulations!
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: tc2324 on August 09, 2012, 10:46:27 PM
Quote from: coops213 on August 04, 2012, 04:08:08 PM
Oh wow! That's friggin' awesome! When I was shading the profile I kind of thought it could never actually work as a model, the sections of the P-51 and F-16 at the junction of the two were so different. Looks like it fought you a bit but you managed to pull it off. This really sums up the motto in the site banner: "where imagination trumps reality".

Fantastic job!


Cheer coops/tophe,  :)

... here are a couple more pics from a different angle.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/021-29.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/tc2324/013-57.jpg)

Like I said previously, I learnt a lot from this bash and will have another crack at it later.  ;)
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: Tophe on August 10, 2012, 12:40:19 AM
This is one of the most pleasant model I have ever seen. :-* I swear it is true (my emotion, not this aircraft... ;) )
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: Acree on August 10, 2012, 07:09:36 AM
But Tophe... it's (dare I say it?) symmetrical! :icon_surprised:
Title: Re: Chimera
Post by: Tophe on August 10, 2012, 10:36:34 AM
I am focused on twin-boom and asymmetrical ones, but sometimes beauty and weirdness strike without a family reason... :-*