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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on June 22, 2020, 03:28:59 AM

Title: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 22, 2020, 03:28:59 AM
A thread for your Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration.

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Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 22, 2020, 03:29:55 AM
To begin with, Swedes did order some but they were never delivered.  Here's a rendering of what they might have looked like in service:

(http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/wp-content/gallery/g1-book/g-1_5.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on June 22, 2020, 07:52:31 AM
Alternate powerplants?  Either larger and/or more powerful radial engines or suitable Daimler-Benz, Rolls-Royce, or Junker Jumo products.  Perhaps with the engine and radiator installations from a Fw190D or Ta152?
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Kelmola on June 22, 2020, 08:58:55 PM
Then of course there's Finland. There was great interest in the FAF for G.1 but eventually Douhetism won over and we bought Blenheims instead.

Double-bluff what-if: what if the Spanish Republican order that as a cover story was a Finnish order, that being plausible due to the interest, would have been actually dellvered to Finland eventually? Even in OTL this almost happened in the autumn of 1939 but the price was deemed too high. Then after Winter war started, it was too late so the offer was abandoned again.

During Winter War, squadrons of G.1's would have been a nasty surprise to unescorted SB-2 raids.
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: sanka on June 23, 2020, 01:41:56 AM
Or some .50 machine guns op front. Or 20mm...
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 23, 2020, 02:23:05 AM
Some cool artwork:

(http://www.luijken.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/hubobe.jpg)
(http://www.luijken.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/g1soloskyb2_v008_0279c.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 23, 2020, 03:19:42 AM
Fokker Ontwerp 129 - Precursor of the Fokker G.1 gives an idea of what an inline version might have looked like:

(http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/wp-content/gallery/g1-book/g-1_2.jpg)
(https://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/GTwiner159/Fokker%20Ontwerp%20129_zpsh8o2sbuf.png)
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on June 23, 2020, 09:37:12 AM
Hmmm  ;D
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/other2/fw189b/fw189b-1.gif)
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 24, 2020, 01:13:48 AM
I thought the same thing Jon.
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 24, 2020, 01:18:05 AM
More, might have beens:

(https://www.ipmsstockholm.se/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/S13-Fokker-G.1-F21-Winter_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 24, 2020, 01:19:33 AM
And speaking of different engines:

Fokker G.1 with Merlins
(http://www.luijken.com/images/inprogress/merlinG1.jpg)

Fokker G.1 with DB 601s
(http://www.luijken.com/images/inprogress/DB601G1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on June 26, 2020, 12:37:50 AM
Or what they really are, a G.1 with either Spitfire or Bf 109E noses on the nacelles.  ;D
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 26, 2020, 02:29:30 AM
Oh I know that but they still give people an idea of what they might look like.
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 26, 2020, 02:34:04 AM
What about a floatplane version?
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 26, 2020, 02:56:17 AM
An idea:  Royal Netherlands East Indies Army Air Force Fokker G.1 which makes its way to Australia post the Japanese invasion and gets put into RAAF service.
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on June 26, 2020, 10:32:15 AM
He 112 style noses would look better than 109E.

(https://drawingdatabase.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/he112b3v.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on June 26, 2020, 10:54:57 AM
I was thinking more of something like the Bf110's engine installations with wing radiators or simply something like the Fw190D's installation with frontal radiator.
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 27, 2020, 03:00:34 AM
Hmmm...I have a resin Fokker G-1 and a resin Beaufighter Mk.IIF Conversion Set...
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: dogsbody on June 27, 2020, 03:19:24 AM
Swap out the Bristol Mercurys and replace them with Hercules radials. Then maybe you'd have something along the lines of a Beaufighter.


Chris
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on June 28, 2020, 04:02:27 AM
Hercules would increase the weight by over 1,900 lbs, that's just the engines not the new mounts
etc. etc.

R-1830s only by 568 lbs., just the engines.
Title: Re: Fokker G-1 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: apophenia on June 28, 2020, 10:47:52 AM
Fokker played with a Hercules-powered G.1 derivative concept in 1937. The twin-boomed Ontwerp 152/Fokker T.VI was supposed to be a medium bomber based on the G.1 airframe. In reality, I suspect there would have been very little commonality remaining.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7866.msg173431.html#msg173431 (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7866.msg173431.html#msg173431)