Author Topic: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line  (Read 27685 times)

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Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« on: December 28, 2015, 01:08:17 AM »
Hi all i received this infamous kit as a present from my missus (note from the title I will only be correcting those errors my megre skills and even megerer knowledge will allow) that said as I'm building just a generic ship of the line it will end up being exactly right.

I have today ordered some gold leaf for this kit as it worked so well on the La Reale and the Royal Sovriegn, I have some copper leaf and brass leaf, wish I could find some bronze leaf for the canons (does anyone know how I could colour brass leaf to look like bronze).

I know everyone will be saying get good am blocks and tackle also bin the thread and get some proper stuff, but, the missus has said keep the costs down, also I feel why spend more on am stuff than the kit cost, so will be investing in bees wax and apart from the gold leaf all else will be oob (apart from maybe some scratch building.






the molding is as exquisite as it was on the La Reale.




























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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 03:04:09 AM »
That hull detail looks especially well done.
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2015, 05:15:50 AM »
Another thing on wanna do list is with 17-18th century sailing ship.
Build without masts and add prop(s) and 20th century guns.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2015, 07:42:17 PM »
Can anyone workout my first problem(It's a biggie, wont be able to go far with this at the moment )
You would think I would have learnt with heller by now (check everything, then check it again.


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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2015, 12:42:41 AM »
Hi all well I cant do much more than this(of course when the gold comes will get more done) I really am peed off though, I know from experience it will be weeks before I get the replacement hull half, stuff like this is really frustrating.

















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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2015, 04:17:52 AM »
Can anyone workout my first problem(It's a biggie, wont be able to go far with this at the moment )


Missing some decking?
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2015, 05:43:01 AM »
Oh two port hulls, two port hulls
How can ya sail with two port hulls.
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BTW The French adopted a new standard of iron guns in the 1680s and the bronze guns were
gradually replaced through the 1690s - early 1700s. The iron guns were simpler in form without
all the embellishment and the fancy dolphins. And FWIW the colour of gunmetal (brass) or bronze
guns isn't dramatically different, neither looks like a 'bronze sculpture', the appearance is closer
to red brass.

Sailing Ships of War 1400 - 1860 by Dr. Frank Howard is probably the modeler's reference,
it really is a remarkably detailed work.
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2016, 02:15:37 AM »
Hi all well the gold leaf has arrived for this but will leave any guilding untill\if the other hull side turns up.






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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2016, 03:03:12 AM »
Oh two port hulls, two port hulls


Doh!  How could I miss that obvious one...maybe I am qualified to get a job at Heller :-[
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2016, 08:55:19 AM »
LOL on the hulls, that is certainly a show stopper :o

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2016, 04:12:34 AM »
Hi all well the part is coming, so here is 2 nights of guilding run out of gold leaf now, will have to order some more)













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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2016, 02:40:55 AM »
Looks good
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2016, 05:16:23 AM »
here's tonight's update











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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2016, 07:31:43 AM »
Dammmmn!  That's gorgeous work!

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2016, 09:42:53 PM »
Hi all I've finished one of the rear gallerys so I thought a lot of the detail was hidden so added an oil wash to them














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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2016, 06:14:53 AM »
Certainly made the detail pop. Good job! :)
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2016, 10:38:40 AM »
That really does look nice.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2016, 03:46:38 AM »
Hi all here is my first modification









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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2016, 04:33:44 AM »
See another splendid build coming...... and I can't knit !

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2016, 04:40:34 AM »
Hi all well all the guilding is done Just waiting on the hull now





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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2016, 07:06:46 PM »
Hi all well it's amazing the effect threatening to sue, not just for the cost of the kit but also compensation can have. Special delivery today the hull half arrived(no letter of apology or even a note just the box with the hull in it)
So looks like it's back on then.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2016, 03:37:03 AM »
Hi all well now the hull half is here I'm like a cat with 2 tails, so my first job to remove the moulded plimsole line (I'm raising it a bit to improve the look) (seen it done elsewhere (davidk's build) and it looks much better)



I must say I think it's worked really well, you cant tell it was there at all




couple of strengthening strips in the bottom


She is huge.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2016, 02:06:11 AM »
Hi all here is tonights update .













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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2016, 03:36:11 AM »
Think you are faking us about how you do this.  Top two pictures are of paint applied to plastic - OK. 
But then you put hull piece into chamber of an atom altering device and type in to change plastic to weathered wood.  Click on start and depending on power of particular atom alterer you own; the hull pieces come out as real weathered wood a few seconds or minutes later.   Right ?

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2016, 04:06:02 AM »
Ha ha, that took about 3/4 of an hour its pastels its a trick I learnt by accident the pastels won't stick to plastic on its own so I roughly paint with a matt (has to be matt the pastels won't stick to gloss either) the matt I use would be the lightest shade of the wood I'm trying to replicate, then with the next darkest shade of the wood I'm trying to replicate in pastel I drag the stick lightly over the wood grain, then with a soft brush I brush in the direction of the grain, next I use the darkest shade of wood colour pastel and with a rough grade sand paper I sand it over the hull randomly then brush that in in the direction of the grain, then for the stains I get a black stick of pastel and draw down from top to bottom of the hull then brush up and down till its blended then from side to side, finally I spray with my missus hair spray (you can't varnish it as while the varnish dries all the colours blend into eachothers and it looks awefull) so spray with missus hairspray then when thats dry spray with Matt varnish.