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Offline Tophe

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Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« on: December 29, 2015, 01:58:09 AM »
As my so nice parents offered me yesterday a gift for my birthday as (little) money to spend freely...
As I have no room in my shelves for model airplanes 1/72 as I used to build...
I have planned a 1/144 model with very reduced wings.
This evening I have ordered 2 copies of 1/144 P-51B Mustang (Revell).
My project is to build them as just 2 fuselages side by side, without tailplanes with 3 main wheels (2 front, 1 central rear) without propeller, without scoop (streamlined), with very little-span wings (more like stabilisators).
Delivery is scheduled for the end of this week, you will see...
 :)
(PS. I have included this project in the Aero-space section as this will be a racing derivative of airplanes, not a car with passengers for road)... ???

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2015, 04:00:45 AM »
You have my complete attention!

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2015, 06:17:27 AM »

go ahead !


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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2015, 07:10:15 AM »
Sounds like a very interesting concept, Tophe! I'll be checking for your updates!

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2015, 11:31:43 AM »
 :icon_music: Thanks a lot for these nice words, so pleasant to hear! I hope you will not be too much disappointed, I have imagination but not handy skills, sorry... :-\ :icon_crap:

(PS. I have included this project in the Aero-space section as this will be a racing derivative of airplanes, not a car with passengers for road)... ???
I confirm, this will be something between land-racer on Salt-Lake and WIG, jumping in the air again and again, not rolling and not flying... (like hydrofoil sailboats are touching a little the water without being inside water)...
« Last Edit: December 29, 2015, 12:46:48 PM by Tophe »

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2015, 12:38:46 AM »
Here is the project of mine, but to be built in plastic this time (I swear I will try)...

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2015, 03:01:04 AM »
May I suggest open cockpits?
Great idea!

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2015, 09:12:29 AM »
That design totally captures the spirit of those Salt Flats racers, Tophe! Looks like you've done some research.

What I really like about your concept is how it looks not only fast but cute at the same time!

Your work never fails to make me smile!

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2015, 09:44:48 AM »
May I suggest open cockpits?
Leave the windscreens, remove the canopies, and convert the back portion to headrest fairings as seen on some sports cars (and not so sporty ones, 1962 Thunderbird convertible comes to mind).

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2015, 11:49:48 AM »
Thanks for these many ideas...
- Sorry I will not have opened cockpits, as this would require building Inside the cockpits which I do not at all (on the opposite I paint canopies black, hiding that I put nothing Inside)
- I will not try to cut the little canopies parts
- Yes I may cut the razorback on one side (filled with putty intead) to make a single-seat, thanks!
- I did not know at all the Thunderbord 1962 (thanks):

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2015, 06:00:07 PM »
Today I have received the cute tiny kits...

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2016, 03:30:52 PM »
I consider making the P-5151B (now B') a single-seater (the technical reason being that a racer does not need two pilots - an engine expert may help but he/she would be in a prone position without windscreen):

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2016, 09:49:05 AM »
I can't wait to see this take shape!

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2016, 02:20:47 AM »
I have started... :)

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2016, 05:30:57 AM »
Look forward to seeing this one !

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2016, 05:00:33 PM »
Thanks! :)

I have cut out what was the chord of wing and tailplanes, and the exhaust pipes as well (to have a clean pretty nose on each part)

I consider using the "MUSTANG" tablet as a new TT-tail common tailplane/stabilizer...

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2016, 05:03:56 PM »
And now the first putty is on. This is not for sanding, at this step, but I have filled the fuselages with it, in order to make a solid basis before cutting off both belly scoops and the port back...

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2016, 07:40:40 AM »
It takes a very steady, skilled hand to do successful kit surgery like that, mon ami! Very impressive!

Looks like the putty went well. Putty, sand, repeat. It's like an endless mantra for our hobby passed down through the ages...

Enjoying your progress very much,

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2016, 02:10:39 PM »
Thanks... while I think I have less skills than all of you here.
This putty first step is not for sanding but to make a solid Inside before cutting off the plastic holding all (bottom scoops and back of the left side). A tremendous amount of work will come from this, but I will try, during weekends...
(This is close to scratch-building, I think)

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2016, 08:28:08 AM »
courage!

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2016, 01:51:17 AM »
Thanks!
Well, I tried cutting off the belly scoop with a cutter, and... the forces broke the tail, I glued it back again and stopped (left part of the picture)
Then I used a saw for the other fuselage, and it worked all right (right part of the picture)


Then I added putty to make solid the sawed fuselage (in order to cut the back another day):

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2016, 11:53:09 PM »
I have sawed off (away?) the belly scoop of the first fuselage and the back of the second. Slowly but surely:

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2016, 07:46:21 AM »
Nice progress, mon ami!

I find the belly scoop a challenge when working on P-51s too and I like your solution.

It looks like you've overcome that obstacle with aplomb! Nicely done, Tophe!

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2016, 06:57:08 PM »
Thanks Brian!

After a little sanding I got this:

I am not sure anymore this will be a race car, maybe a race plane with tandem tiny wings... :)

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2016, 05:43:55 AM »
looks interesting. 

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2016, 05:49:58 AM »
Well this is a tad different

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2016, 01:12:42 AM »
(Belated) thanks! Well, I have tried twice to go on (today is the second time), hoping to finish someday, but the putty tube is turning half liquid, and this was a complete failure... I will try again, but enthusiasm is low... :(

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2016, 12:47:38 AM »
(Sigh of relief:) I have found an old tube of putty and this one is not half-liquid, so I have been able to start again! :)
On the picture, the dark spots and cowlings are the liquid-putty remainings... :(

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2016, 03:19:21 AM »
After sanding, the result is well advanced:

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2016, 04:34:04 AM »
Could be a Bonneville 'car', or a full on LSR candidate, the pre-war M-B T80 had wings.  ;D






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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2016, 03:20:32 PM »
thanks for these historical pictures, like "if I were not crazy"... ;)

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2016, 10:10:56 PM »
I am ashamed to show the underside of my P-5151B... solid but ugly (and I do not plan to cover it with putty, just looking at it from above)... ??? :icon_crap:

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2016, 12:24:27 AM »
With paint for a single color, this is a little less ugly... ???

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2016, 05:49:58 PM »
Not finished yet, but close to completion...:

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2016, 11:29:24 AM »
I am glad the Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B is now born, finished (for my poor standards...):

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2016, 07:03:00 PM »

a nice proof of concept !  ;)

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2016, 11:36:48 PM »
Thanks!

Actually, this is what I do: first = most easy = drawing, then trying a little to turn it solid (without realism)...
« Last Edit: May 03, 2016, 11:54:17 PM by Tophe »

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2016, 05:28:36 AM »
Now that really finished up a treat, mon ami!

It sure looks wicked fast!

You always have a magnificent way of facing up to challenges and overcoming them!

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Re: Twin-Mustang Car P-5151B...
« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2016, 10:46:44 PM »
Thanks!
I just try to keep meing a modeller, not drawing only. But I am a bad modeller, maybe I deserve pity more than congratulations ??? ;)