Beyond The Sprues
Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => 2013 "Clear Your Workbench" GB => Topic started by: Claymore on January 01, 2014, 02:37:12 AM
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As I already had the plans drawn up, I feel justified in calling this one an work in progress although no actual building had taken place.
A Bloodhound 2 missile Transporter, Erector and Launcher (TEL) is what I am heading towards. However, as I'm sure you are all only too well aware Bloodhound kits are few and very far between and, as far as I am aware, non-existent in 1/35 scale. So it's back to the scratch build farm for me. A selection of knitting needles has provided me with the basic tubular building blocks but they are far from resembling anything remotely missile like.
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Work is progressing nicely on the knitting needle monster and as you can see it is now looking a little more like the component parts of a Bloodhound 2 missile -which is just as well as that is what I am aiming for.
Lots of reshaping, filler, sanding and filing required. Oh and top tip for the week - don't put knitting needles into a pencil sharpener, it's not pretty! :o
The missile (1/35 scale) is going to be big - approx 24cm in length. So considerably longer than most AFVs!!!
(https://i.imgur.com/aDmyWaL.jpg)
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Cool!
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I'm digging this on from the git-go. The Bloodhound is a neat missile, and I expect this will be a great presentation.
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KNITTING needles? My brain hurts but it looks like you're making good progress.
I'll drag out my Airfix Bloodhound for visual comparison later on.
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KNITTING needles? My brain hurts but it looks like you're making good progress.
I'll drag out my Airfix Bloodhound for visual comparison later on.
Interestingly, I am not sure what variant the Airfix Bloodhound is supposed to be. It sits on a Mk 1 launcher but has Mk 2 tail-fins and the shorter Mk 1 rear wings. It also looks a little on the short side to be a Mk 2 and does not have the small fin on top of the upper Thor ramjet or the widened rear to the ramjets characteristic of the Mk 2. Any chance of you measuring its length as that will tell me straight away what Mk it is supposed to be (Mk 1 - 7.7m, Mk 2 - 8.45m).
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Happy New Year one and all! :icon_beer:
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KNITTING needles? My brain hurts but it looks like you're making good progress.
I'll drag out my Airfix Bloodhound for visual comparison later on.
Interestingly, I am not sure what variant the Airfix Bloodhound is supposed to be. It sits on a Mk 1 launcher but has Mk 2 tail-fins and the shorter Mk 1 rear wings. It also looks a little on the short side to be a Mk 2 and does not have the small fin on top of the upper Thor ramjet or the widened rear to the ramjets characteristic of the Mk 2. Any chance of you measuring its length as that will tell me straight away what Mk it is supposed to be (Mk 1 - 7.7m, Mk 2 - 8.45m).
I'll see if I can dig it out and measure it for you. I saw it only a week ago so it can't be buried THAT deeply. :)
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Brilliant idea with the knitting needles! I need to get some of those myself! :)
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...and the latest. Having managed to sand/file most of my finger tips off and sent my neck into spasm twice, it's pretty much situation normal so far. I'm going to fit the ramjets next...
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...and the latest. Having managed to sand/file most of my finger tips off and sent my neck into spasm twice, it's pretty much situation normal so far. I'm going to fit the ramjets next...
([url]http://i.imgur.com/YN3fJlJ.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imgur.com/YN3fJlJ[/url])
From needles to nukes.
Good work and a great source of parts for future projects. What glue did you use?
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From needles to nukes.
Good work and a great source of parts for future projects. What glue did you use?
Thanks. To my great surprise and relief, normal liquid glue for plastic kits (Revell in this case) works perfectly well. Although, I did have to use a spot of super glue on the nozzles of the boosters as there were more of a polythene plastic (golf tees in fact).
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I found my Airfix Bloodhound kit, it was confusing me by being on the TOP of a pile of other model boxes....
The missile body is 94 mm long, equivalant to 7144 mm in 1/76 scale, which it purports to be. I guess that makes it a Mk 1, even if it's a tad short, but that length doesn't include the cross shaped support bracket for the boosters which is attached to the rear of the missile body.
Odd that they included this at 1/76 scale in the 1/72 scale initial C-130K Hercules kit.
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I found my Airfix Bloodhound kit, it was confusing me by being on the TOP of a pile of other model boxes....
The missile body is 94 mm long, equivalant to 7144 mm in 1/76 scale, which it purports to be. I guess that makes it a Mk 1, even if it's a tad short, but that length doesn't include the cross shaped support bracket for the boosters which is attached to the rear of the missile body.
Odd that they included this at 1/76 scale in the 1/72 scale initial C-130K Hercules kit.
Thanks for looking it out, but it does now answer the question. The length of 7.7m is from the tip of the nose to end of the booster fins so that may explain the slight shortfall. Re the different scales it does seem a little odd. No doubt somebody somewhere thought that no-one would notice the difference - guess they didn't factor in the Bloodhound Ninjas. :icon_ninja: ;)
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...and another couple of pics to keep the juices flowing... ;)
(https://i.imgur.com/0DzxyH0.jpg)
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That's looking REALLY good, no way would you figure it's made from knitting needles. ;)
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Fun!
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Calymore, its looking good
... A selection of knitting needles has provided me with the basic tubular building blocks but they are far from resembling anything remotely missile like ...
Gotta disagree with the above, if you knew my Gran you'd be as scared of these things as I am :o
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That's looking REALLY good, no way would you figure it's made from knitting needles. ;)
Fun!
Calymore, its looking good
Gotta disagree with the above, if you knew my Gran you'd be as scared of these things as I am :o
Thanks chaps, the support and encouragement is much appreciated. :)
Beware Grans with knitting needles! ;)
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I had to think long and hard as to how to get the boosters positioned, as they do not sit at right angles to each other, and how to get them to sit steady enough for the glue to set. Answer - build a mounting rig which holds the missile vertical and the booster fins in the correct alignment.
I think there now be a Bloodhound in ma hoose! :o ;)
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Idea: Vertical launched (from ship) Bloodhound.
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Me thinks said ship would have to have a pretty robust hull! :o ;D
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RN carriers had armored decks, and we were scratching around for new roles for the King George V class
awhile back... ;)
That looks great, Claymore - you ought to build a second one and shop it around as a master pattern.
The modelling world needs more missiles in all scales, and SAMs seem especially underrepresented.
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The simple fact is that you can never have too much of a good thing and so why build one Bloodhound when you can build two at the same time?
There is still some detailing to go on both but I just couldn't help myself from blabbing. It also explains the excessive number of knitting needles. ;) ;D
Incidentally, both are destined for the Bloodhound TEL kitbash - along the lines of the SA-4 Ganef.
(https://i.imgur.com/jfUsSoD.jpg)
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Here is the latest on the Bloodhound TEL project. As you can see I have started on the vehicle itself. I have extended the M110 hull and added an additional road-wheel and rear idler. This will now mean that the missiles do not overhang excessively. Interestingly, the extended M110 comes out at just about the same size as the SA-4 Ganef's TEL.
All the launcher gubbins still has to be constructed; but I have a cunning plan Baldrick...
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Those Bloodhounds look excellent! :)
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Those Bloodhounds look excellent! :)
Thank you my good fellow.
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Slowly getting there... The launcher element is more or less done - just some cables, extra surface detail and the hydraulic rams to go. The prime mover still need a bit of work but there is a light at the end of the tunnel... good news... unless of course, that light is a thermo-nuclear device going off!
(https://i.imgur.com/SGASN2R.jpg)
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Launcher's looking good! :)
Speaking of missiles, I just got one of these, which may interest you:
(http://www.scalemates.com/products/img/1/2/8/144128-11104.jpg?nr=80071&company=heller&name=ariane iv)
(http://kitbox.free.fr/ouvreboite/OB1205_P/index_fichiers/image309.jpg)
It comes out about 21cm long, which is about 7.35m in 1/35th scale, i.e. in the same ball park as a Pluton tactical nuclear missile, longer than a Lance but shorter than a Scud or FROG, and you could easily lengthen/shorten it. Look good on a TEL, wouldn't it? ;)
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Nice work on the launchers! :) seriously fine scratching!
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You really need to make some more of these plus the launcher so as to sell...hint, hint!
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Double + hint - YoKai, for the Ministry of Stuff.
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Just terrific.. again.
What more to say.
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Launcher's looking good! :)
Look good on a TEL, wouldn't it? ;)
Thank you and yes it would indeed... :)
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Thanks again chaps. I may well look into the mass(ish) production of the missile. The launcher would be a pain and a real bitch to cast but I suppose one really needs to go with the other... Anyhoo, that will have to wait until much later in the year. Duty calls and all that...
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For those of you who are following the Bloodhound TEL build, here are the first shots of what the completed model will look like. It's now getting to that exciting stage when the end is definitely in sight... well apart from the painting, decals, weathering, blah, blah, blah... dang! :icon_crap:
I'm going to be hard up against the deadline, if indeed I can make it at all. Wednesday is the cut off as I am away 30 Jan - 1 Feb and this Sat & Sun is a training weekend for the Squadron. :o
(https://i.imgur.com/6FMpzHZ.jpg)
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Wow! :-*
Looks suitably SA-4 Ganef-ish with the long, low-slung TEL and the big honkin' missiles! >:D
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That does look very, very good ---- :)
I'm usually not into armour but with the Bloodhounds on board, it does make it very interesting -- Would it have a blast deflector hanging off the rear ?
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Thanks chaps.
I'm thinking no for the blast deflector - just using mother earth as a suitable back stop. The OTL Bloodhound launcher didn't have one so...
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The system's initial development appeared to be shrouded in secrecy however; various staged leaks in the early 1960s led the Soviets to believe that the project would be fielded in early 1965. This resulted in the USSR sinking large quantities of time, effort and roubles into rushing the 2K11 Krug (NATO designation - SA-4 Ganef) in to production by 1964 ahead of its UK counter-part. Having achieved its primary aim of suckering the Soviets into fielding a very expensive and none too reliable missile system the UK government fully intended to shelve their own mobile SAM project which was nowhere near as fully developed as they had led the Soviets to believe and continue with the extant static Bloodhound 2 system. However, increased tensions between NATO and the Warsaw Pact in late 1965 saw the mobile Bloodhound 4 missile system completed and fielded by both the RAF Regt and Royal Artillery in 1966.
The model depicts A2, the 2nd Transporter, Erector and Launcher (TEL) of A Flt, 54 Sqn RAF Regt. A2 is one of 4 TELs in A Flt which is one of three combat Flts of 54 Sqn. Each combat Flt also has one mobile Type 85 target acquisition and illumination radar mounted on the same stretched M110 chassis as the TEL. The model is made from a couple of old Italeri M110A2 models some plastic card and a whole pile of knitting needles.
(https://i.imgur.com/oX1xQQT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0huQGWa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/W270C6U.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cN7XGCk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NK3xFgc.jpg)
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Looks great! What did you use to do the snazzy ORBAT silhouettes?
Cheers,
Logan
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Awesome work!! Congrats on finishing :) This looks great
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Outstanding - I want a copy!!!
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Looks great! What did you use to do the snazzy ORBAT silhouettes?
Cheers,
Logan
Thanks. The silhouettes were produced in PowerPoint. Find a picture, draw over it and fill with black. Then resize as required so the TELs, FV 432s, Bedford trucks and Landrovers are all to scale. It's surprising how good PowerPoint is as a drawing tool.
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Thank you chaps. Perhaps I should go into the Bloodhound production business. ;)
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Thanks. The silhouettes were produced in PowerPoint. Find a picture, draw over it fill with black. Then resize as required so the TELs, FV 432s, Bedford trucks and Landrovers are all to scale. It's surprising how good PowerPoint is as a drawing tool.
That's funny, I'm doing the same sort of thing for a project of my own and I chose to use Powerpoint, too! They're also turning out well. Great minds. I agree completely about Powerpoint, by the way, and have been saying the same thing for years. I think glanini even uses (or at least used) Powerpoint to do his profiles.
Cheers,
Logan
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Wow - what an outstanding piece of work - I love it! ;) ;) ;)
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Perhaps I should go into the Bloodhound production business. ;)
I'm glad you finally got our hints (it is not like they were subtle)…now hurry up about it! >:( As previously explained, perhaps a visit to the chaps at Accurate Armour would be useful.