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Offline ysi_maniac

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Curtiss P-60Y
« on: November 08, 2019, 08:47:18 PM »
Is P-60Y, in this point of development, elegible for this GB?
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1486.msg19628#msg19628

Justification? An earlier involvement would allow a longer development.  ??? Si non è vero è ben trovato  8)

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to include a link to an old project. FIXED
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Re: P-60Y
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2019, 02:43:33 AM »
I would assume you mean a P-60 given there was no P-60Y that I am aware of.  Moreover, which version would you be looking at?  There were many.

Re your question, it will be Acree's call given he is the GB Moderator though I believe the rules do state "Qualification will be very permissive - as long as you can justify why your entry belongs in this GB, it fits."



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Re: P-60Y
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2019, 03:04:13 AM »
Another option to consider might be that an earlier entry into the war (including the presumed lead up) triggers an earlier deal to produce the Packard V-1650 Merlin.  In the real world an agreement was reached between Rolls-Royce and the Packard Motor Car Company in September 1940 to manufacture the Merlin under license, with the first Packard-built engine, designated V-1650-1, run in August 1941.  If the USA were to enter the war in Sep 1939, alongside the UK and France and others, perhaps a deal could have been done in late 1939, thus bringing the Packard Merlin forward by close to a year thus seeing the first engines run in late 1940.  This then could have the flow on effect of bringing something such as the P-40F (Kittyhawk Mk II) into service in late 1940 and maybe, just maybe, see them participate in the Battle of Britain.
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Curtiss P-60Y
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2019, 10:12:44 AM »
Sorry Greg, I forgot to include a link to an old project, frozen for years. :icon_crap:

My fault :icon_alabanza: Already fixed. :smiley:
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Curtiss P-60Y
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Re: Curtiss P-60Y
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2019, 09:49:49 PM »
This project fits the GB.  Approvd!

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Re: Curtiss P-60Y
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2019, 10:27:53 AM »
What if Curtiss suplies an upgrade reengining kit to costumers of P-36?

Original P-36 engine, Twin Wasp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-1830_Twin_Wasp#Specifications_(R-1830-S1C-G)
Upgrade engine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-2800_Double_Wasp#Specifications_(R-2800-54)

differences in weight: from 1,250 lb (567 kg) to 2,360 lb (1,073 kg)
differences in power: from 1200 hp to 2100 hp

These last data justifies a redesign of fuselage and tail fin for rebanlancing purposes.
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Re: Curtiss P-60Y
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2019, 10:50:49 AM »
Perhaps a constant cross-section fuselage stretch just in front of the tail surfaces plus a taller fin and rudder?  Maybe even with a strake leading into the vertical fin?

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Re: Curtiss P-60Y
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2019, 10:53:55 AM »
In this context, what if the 3 tone (blue-gray, khaki, redish earth) French camo scheme? :-* :-*
Some examples: http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/78/21/0
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Re: Curtiss P-60Y
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2019, 12:05:04 PM »
What if Curtiss suplies an upgrade reengining kit to costumers of P-36?

Original P-36 engine, Twin Wasp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-1830_Twin_Wasp#Specifications_(R-1830-S1C-G)
Upgrade engine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-2800_Double_Wasp#Specifications_(R-2800-54)

differences in weight: from 1,250 lb (567 kg) to 2,360 lb (1,073 kg)
differences in power: from 1200 hp to 2100 hp

These last data justifies a redesign of fuselage and tail fin for rebanlancing purposes.

That wouldn't be a re-engining kit:-\ ;D :icon_fsm:
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Re: Curtiss P-60Y
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2019, 01:56:29 PM »
Well, wings, undercarriage and cockpit area would not be changed  ;) 8) :P

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Re: Curtiss P-60Y
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2019, 10:04:38 AM »


What is for you the olive green in US aircraft during WWII?

The color on Thunderbolt and Mustang look different. Is the last, the first fadded?