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single float MC 72
« on: August 10, 2017, 03:30:08 AM »

so, as you all know, the MC72 was a racer seaplane, on twin floats, that achieved record speeds in its category in 1933 and 1934.

Here is its further development, that was planned (at the end of 1934, for 1935 : that is retro-futuristic, no?  ;) )
to break thess records by having only a single float.

In order to emphasize the diferrence with the previous model, it was painted blue :




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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2017, 03:50:01 AM »
Absolutely gorgeous, eric!

The yellow beaching trolley sets it off nicely.

Well done!

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2017, 06:23:22 AM »
Wonderful model, thanks! :-*

so, as you all know, the MC72 was a racer seaplane, on twin floats, that achieved record speeds in its category in 1933 and 1934.
Here is its further development, that was planned (at the end of 1934, for 1935 : that is retro-futuristic, no?  ;) )
to break these records by having only a single float.
 
I imagine another possible story: in 1931 when UK wined forever the Schneider trophy for seaplane races, all observers said the future for sure must be a Schneider 2 trophy to go on the same way. That is the context why the MC72 was designed (for the future cup 1933 that never came?), then the single-float version (for the future cup 1935, waited in vain)… Does that sound retro future enough? I think so… ;)

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2017, 12:05:40 AM »
It does look very believable with the single float.

As to a reborn Schneider Cup, back in 2005 IPMS-Seattle had a Schneider '49 club build:
http://www.internetmodeler.com/2005/may/aviation/Schneider.php

In all there were over 70 entries, unfortunately mine didn't make it off the bench.  :-X
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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2017, 04:28:04 AM »

thanks a lot !

and thanks for the link : there are very nice inventions there, including a floatpane Bf109 push-pull twin boom ! (Tophe!  ;D)


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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2017, 06:00:22 AM »
Yes, thank you all. I think I knew this one from the web, I will have to check (very soon, back from holidays).
At first I thought you were referring to a float version of the Marton X/V (twin-boomer from Hungary with 2 DB engines) but you are right this is a Me109(ZX from Belgium by Mike Millette says the text). Thanks again!

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2017, 07:31:26 PM »
 A very stylish reconfiguration. I'm a bit skeptical that the Italians would paint their world-beater in English colors, but it's a good looking finish, regardless.

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2017, 12:33:07 AM »

thanks !

the coloring is part of the whiff  ;D

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2017, 03:06:27 AM »
Razor sharp, fast and futuristic look  :-*
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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2017, 07:30:19 AM »
Wow.  This looks like the right place to drop my first post...

First off, that looks AWESOME! Great paint job and it looks razor-sharp.  I'm a huge fan of the Macchi racers... especially the M.52.

What kit did you use to pull this off? Are there any WIP pics?
Thanks!

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2017, 08:02:39 PM »

thanks a lot !

ad welcome  ;)

the kits are, simply, the 1/48 MC72 by SMER, and the floats from a Tamiya 1/48 Rufe


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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2017, 10:26:42 AM »
Ericr, in order to celebrate your great model, could I add here the drawing of a (twice more powerful) version without external floats: zwilling single float… (MC-72 ZSF) for Shneider Cup II in 1939 ? ???

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2017, 12:21:23 PM »
Sure, please do !

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2017, 06:48:21 PM »
Thanks!
I am not immediately ready to post it, but I am working on it (the source is a svg vector file from Wikipédia, and I have to unlock every little piece of drawing, before putting them together in order, this is long but the final result will be plesant I guess).
The profile is done (with enclosed canopy), I am now working on the front view, I am not sure the upper view will be necessary.
Thanks again.

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2017, 02:21:20 AM »
Here it is, thanks again:

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2017, 02:29:27 AM »
 :smiley:
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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2017, 02:50:41 AM »
Here it is, thanks again:



great !

this one should be built in plastic !

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2017, 06:27:47 PM »
Beautiful idea Eric, very modern!

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2017, 03:05:30 AM »

thank you !

it is the Rufe float that looks good  ;)


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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2017, 06:17:00 AM »
That looks so right  :smiley:
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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2017, 03:36:57 PM »
thanks !

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2017, 02:03:12 AM »
this one should be built in plastic !
I thought maybe I could "build" it as photograph, but on this road, I have discovered a new derivative:

No more lateral float (said the futuristic speech in 1935)! Active stability on the single float will be enough, with big increase in speed!

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2017, 03:06:37 AM »
this one should be built in plastic !
I thought maybe I could "build" it as photograph, but on this road, I have discovered a new derivative:

No more lateral float (said the futuristic speech in 1935)! Active stability on the single float will be enough, with big increase in speed!

waaah ! brilliant ! it looks so light, like a spacecraft !



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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2017, 12:22:48 AM »
Thanks a lot!

And here the result, finished as I wanted first, as double of your great model:

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2017, 03:16:01 AM »
Thanks a lot!

And here the result, finished as I wanted first, as double of your great model:



this is wonderful, subblime, Beautiful !
thanks a lot for this transcendental version of my humble build, it is spectacular !

maybe I will have to find a pair of MC.72 to make it in 3D ...


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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2017, 11:34:35 AM »
Thanks a lot! In "fact", this 4-engined single-seater was scheduled to win the Schneider² Trophy in 1937 for sure, very sure! ;)
(No need to build it actually, requiring 2 kits of MC-72 + 2 kits of single-float donators...)
This was just a Photopaint way to celebrate your model, so nice by itself already! making us dream...

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2017, 07:51:23 AM »
This one already looked spectacular... Now it's double spectacular!

The concept of double fuselage planes always confuses me though. I can never figure out who's driving the thing! What about a modified version with the cockpit in the middle between those sleek engines and floats?
Thanks!

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2017, 01:20:50 PM »
Here, the double fuselage has a single pilot (one fuselage is empty, tanks only).
But you are right, I may try to play with a version "à la P-38"... ;) celebrating even more ericr's model.

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2017, 04:57:02 PM »
Here, the double fuselage has a single pilot (one fuselage is empty, tanks only).
But you are right, I may try to play with a version "à la P-38"... ;) celebrating even more ericr's model.

nice idea ! please do  ;)

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2017, 01:28:05 AM »
Here it is:

They said "will it win? if we build it", but I fear (with the increased drag) the final answer has been No ??? ;)

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2017, 03:15:41 AM »
Here it is:

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They said "will it win? if we build it", but I fear (with the increased drag) the final answer has been No ??? ;)


excellent !
with a view from the top, we could see how to build one ;
but we could also imagine the shape of the not shown part  ;)

and winning is not the question : participating is the real objective !  ;D

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2017, 09:35:28 AM »
Speaking of which... Tophe, do you do requests? :)

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I'm hoping ericr doesn't mind.  I have a plan to build some float planes from the film Porco Rosso... including the imaginary security planes:



but I could really use something that looks like a schematic to follow.  Is that something you'd be interested in?
Thanks!

Greg

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2017, 12:24:30 PM »
Speaking of which... Tophe, do you do requests? :)
I don't want to hijack the thread, but I'm hoping ericr doesn't mind.  I have a plan to build some float planes from the film Porco Rosso... including the imaginary security planes:
but I could really use something that looks like a schematic to follow.  Is that something you'd be interested in?
I have invented trigonometric Tools to interpretate a slanting view into a 3-view, that may help, yes. Maybe start a topic about that in the Profile/pixels part, and me and others could help you. ???

and winning is not the question : participating is the real objective !  ;D
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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2017, 03:04:26 PM »
long live seaplanes !

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2017, 02:56:38 PM »
but we could also imagine the shape of the not shown part  ;)
I can help...

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2017, 05:53:21 PM »

thanks ! Next time I see two MC72 I might jump on them  ;D

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2017, 11:11:56 PM »
You are right: no need of two single-float kits to give proper floats. With 2 MC-72, you would have 4 acceptable floats (2 to chose from), and no need of little external floats.

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Re: single float MC 72
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2017, 03:50:47 AM »

right ! I am already on the track of a pair of MC72s ... maybe I'll wait a bit for the salary to arrive on my bank account  ;)