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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #75 on: August 26, 2017, 05:40:03 PM »
Other words, of 1944: "after the successful mass-production of P-55A and following versions, the future clearly belongs to canard airplanes, and almost immediately now". Alas all that was cancelled...

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #76 on: August 26, 2017, 09:51:18 PM »
In 1929, the Dornier Do X showed clearly the future for aviation: "every airplane with several engines will have push-pull couples on pylons above a high wing". Yes?

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #77 on: August 27, 2017, 02:31:49 AM »

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #78 on: August 27, 2017, 04:05:45 PM »
Thanks! (We will see that soon, in 1931...).

Ahem, in 1939 flew the prototype Willoughby Delta 8, with lifting booms for passengers and many observers concluded: “this is the future in aircraft design, all the others will copy this”…

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #79 on: August 29, 2017, 02:15:17 AM »
The F38U1, U2, U3 were designed when everyone said that the F4U Corsair's success showed the future in fighter design.


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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #80 on: August 29, 2017, 02:46:47 AM »
I really like the first two, Tophe. Put Swedish markings on them and few would doubt it was real.

Delightful and thought-provoking, mon ami!

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #81 on: August 30, 2017, 01:17:00 AM »
Thanks!

In 1944, the Mc Donnell XP-67 Moonbat introduced new aerodynamic rules in airplane design, this announced the future everywhere, for sure (almost):

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #82 on: August 30, 2017, 05:00:22 AM »
X-82 is HOT  :-*
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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #83 on: August 30, 2017, 06:36:28 AM »
Love the Moonstang, Tophe!

Combining a P-51 with an XP-67 is sheer genius and the version with the bubble canopy just sings!

Beautiful concept, mon ami!

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #84 on: August 30, 2017, 07:07:18 PM »
Thanks a lot, both of you!
And here the Twin-Moonstang, to complete the family... :-\ :smiley:

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #85 on: September 02, 2017, 12:58:21 PM »
In 1938, the USAAF top generals were so proud of their Flying Fortresses, they claim: "future aircraft orders will only be for B-17s, or similar!" (so other US manufacturers will have to adapt their products...). With great self-defense, no need of escort fighters anymore, and so on.

PS. This (in 2017) comes from the invention of a Constelightning by Captain Canada.

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #86 on: September 02, 2017, 06:34:03 PM »
The last one is especially easy on the eyes, Tophe!

Great stuff and your ideas always get me thinking, mon ami!

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #87 on: September 03, 2017, 04:14:51 AM »
In 1929, the Dornier Do X showed clearly the future for aviation: "every airplane with several engines will have push-pull couples on pylons above a high wing". Yes?



Love this!  :-*
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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #88 on: September 03, 2017, 05:34:01 PM »
Thanks a lot!

In Canada 1944, the success of the Cancar Burnelli CBY-3 showed that for sure, all aircraft of the future must feature this lifting fuselage layout:

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #89 on: September 04, 2017, 12:23:54 AM »
This future concerned also single-engined fighters (to be exported):

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #90 on: September 04, 2017, 01:01:04 AM »
Observers said that diversity will still be strong, even if the Burnelli layout will be everywhere, like some twin-tail single engined planes:

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #91 on: September 04, 2017, 02:26:30 AM »
The future would have included as well single-tail twin-engined Burnelli Mustangs:

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #92 on: September 04, 2017, 03:46:36 AM »
Looks like it borrows some concepts from the proposed airliner flying wings that Northrop showed in the late 1940's.

9/4:  Made the correct from 1840's to 1940's that Tophe noted.
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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #93 on: September 04, 2017, 12:36:20 PM »
I guess this 1840 is a mistyping for 1940.
Anyway, "great minds think alike"... thanks engineer to compare my delirium to serious professional projects... ;)

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #94 on: September 06, 2017, 01:32:59 AM »
In 1985, the film Mad Max showed what the future will be for sure. Concerning aircraft, the future one was a Benett/Transavia Airtruk, and when Lockheed was questioned: "will you build them?", the answer happened to be: "or similar of our own":

(AiT-38A & B Lightruk, AiT-38Z Twin-Lightruk)
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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #95 on: September 07, 2017, 11:11:28 AM »
In 1940 flew the Caproni-Campini N.1 jet-plane and it was clear this was the future of aviation: all aircraft manufacturers Will have to copy this great plane:

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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #96 on: September 07, 2017, 12:32:20 PM »
Nice jet engines there !  :o :-*
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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #97 on: September 08, 2017, 12:01:22 PM »
Thanks!

When, in 1947, flew the Waco Aristocrat (see https://www.windcanyonbooks.com/images/products/wacomagazinevol2no2.jpg and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Aristocraft ), it seemed a good idea for all future aircraft: for the army, a free nose (like the P-38/XP-54/55/56) was interesting (to send flowers I suppose), and this will be very simply possible with this “normal” pusher layout, raised up for ground clearance.


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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #98 on: September 09, 2017, 03:09:44 PM »
When the very little canard Latécoère 225 flew in 1984 (see http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/492453Lat225rzz9.jpg ), a new area seemed arrived in Aviation world: now all aircraft will look like that, including (refurbished) Mustangs yes!


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Re: Retrofuture Lightnings & Mustangs
« Reply #99 on: September 09, 2017, 09:14:55 PM »
The Lockheed QT-2 Q-star or Quiet Star X-26 (http://www.jitterbuzz.com/navfil/Lockheed_D212719_02.jpg and https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/16685-lockheed-q-star/ ) was introducing in 1967 a new future for airplanes (silent, with free nose):