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Offline Tophe

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P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« on: February 04, 2017, 04:31:50 PM »
Years back, I already presented floaty P-38s and P-51s, but I will try to invent new ones... :-X ;)

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2017, 06:24:27 PM »
Cristophe,you not cease to amaze me,I like very much this flying catamaran  :)
« Last Edit: February 04, 2017, 07:46:28 PM by AXOR »
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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2017, 08:24:03 PM »
Folks at Lockheed never thought of that!!  Cool!

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2017, 01:59:06 AM »
Absolutely brilliant, mon ami!

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2017, 03:58:09 AM »
Wow!  I love that! :) :-*
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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2017, 02:06:42 AM »
Thanks you all!
And here another P-38 catamaran:

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2017, 06:42:01 AM »
Savoia-Marchetti would be delighted with this beauty, mon ami!

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2017, 03:43:59 AM »
Thanks! while... Maybe Savoia preferred the SP-82: (SP meaning not Savoia-Pursuit but Sea-Plane)

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2017, 04:03:46 AM »
Beautiful!  :-*
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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2017, 05:11:16 AM »
Now that's pretty cool!  I wonder how 2 1/144 PBY planing hulls would fit on a 1/72 F-82. 
Then I would add the other Allison to the rear of the engine nacelle, Savoia-style.  Longer range rival to the Saro SR.A1!

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2017, 07:26:32 AM »
I like it! I bet a couple of P80 fuselages would work well for that. Add maybe Arado 196 floats to the bottom?
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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2017, 10:27:50 AM »
How would your first version look using an F-82 instead of a P-38?

What if you add inverted gull wings to the second version?

Crbad, if you can find the Aeroclub set of vacuform floats you could build them all.....

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2017, 01:49:01 PM »
Thanks a lot for this bunch of great ideas! I will try to illustrate them...
First (most easy):

How would your first version look using an F-82 instead of a P-38?

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2017, 06:18:04 PM »
I really like your SP-82, Tophe. It has a grace to it that's entrancing.

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2017, 06:58:58 PM »
Classy cool  8)

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2017, 03:44:01 AM »
Thanks a lot for this bunch of great ideas! I will try to illustrate them...
First (most easy):

How would your first version look using an F-82 instead of a P-38?

I might be nuts enough to try to build that.....
What to use for the curved wings is the question.....

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2017, 04:40:24 AM »
Truly brilliant Tophe!  :) :)
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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2017, 04:54:52 PM »
Thanks!

What to use for the curved wings is the question.....
It seems, according to Google, there are models of "snecma coléoptère 1/72" by Mach and Planet. That could give 4 quarters-of-circle wings for 2 models (like P-82 AND P-51)...

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2017, 11:49:35 PM »
I wonder how 2 1/144 PBY planing hulls would fit on a 1/72 F-82. 
Then I would add the other Allison to the rear of the engine nacelle, Savoia-style.
Here is the Acreelidated PBY82 Catalistang (thanks!):

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2017, 12:07:12 AM »
Thanks!

What to use for the curved wings is the question.....
It seems, according to Google, there are models of "snecma coléoptère 1/72" by Mach and Planet. That could give 4 quarters-of-circle wings for 2 models (like P-82 AND P-51)...

I'll have to look into that! thanks!

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2017, 01:21:02 AM »
I like it! I bet a couple of P80 fuselages would work well for that.
Ahem, P-80 Shooting Stars are not Mustang at all, while P-82 = P-51Z somehow. But a floatplane P-82 may have jets like a couple of P-80 (thanks!):

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2017, 03:06:12 AM »
I like it! I bet a couple of P80 fuselages would work well for that.
Ahem, P-80 Shooting Stars are not Mustang at all, while P-82 = P-51Z somehow. But a floatplane P-82 may have jets like a couple of P-80 (thanks!):

Tophe, you'll need some really, really big floats for a F-82 floatplane. The max T.O.W. for a F-82 is almost the same as a DC-3 (F-82 = 25,591 lbs, DC-3 = 25,199 lbs)and here's a pic of a DC-3 with floats (it was real world too with one still surviving today)

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2017, 01:01:25 PM »
Thanks for the idea. While... the words seem all wrong to me, even if English is not my mother language: ??? :(

Tophe, you'll need some really, really big floats for a F-82 floatplane. The max T.O.W. for a F-82 is almost the same as a DC-3 (F-82 = 25,591 lbs, DC-3 = 25,199 lbs)and here's a pic of a DC-3 with floats (it was real world too with one still surviving today)

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- the weight of my P-82 is not above 25,000lbs but below 1lbs, this is not a huge machine, this is a little paper/screen-picture (or maybe a plastic toy someday).
Thanks anyway... ;)

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2017, 02:08:51 PM »
What if you add inverted gull wings to the second version?

This has been a whole process: XKE-38, YKE-38, KE-38A (thanks!):

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Re: P-38 & 51 new seaplanes
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2017, 04:23:00 PM »
Illustrating your ideas was pleasant, thanks again, while, uh... I feel I need to invent myself also. So here are 2 other P-38 seaplane derivatives: