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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #75 on: July 01, 2015, 10:30:11 PM »
Thanks for that very useful

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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #76 on: July 02, 2015, 10:54:18 AM »
Thanks for that very useful

Cheers, glad it will be of use.

The book has numerous diagrams of the rowing positions and the rowing 'form', all of which
make me glad to not be attached to an oar on a 17th - 18th Century French galley.  :o
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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #77 on: July 02, 2015, 11:17:47 AM »
It's looking superb.  Is there any place for someone to beat time for the rowers, or do they not need an external means of keeping time?

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« Reply #78 on: July 03, 2015, 09:00:21 AM »
It's looking superb.  Is there any place for someone to beat time for the rowers, or do they not need an external means of keeping time?

Commands were verbal.
The rowing style was called a scalocio and rather than multiple banks of oars with individual rowers, it was a single
bank of oars with multiple rowers on each one, five on a regular galley, seven on a Reale flagship.

The most inboard rower was the 'lead rower' for each bench and he controlled their movement, and he in turn followed
the lead of the 'lead rower' in front of him. Four of the lead rowers were classed, and treated, as sailors and were the
'head rowers', two aft and two forward. The two aft head rowers, from the benches closest to the poop, were called
espaliers because of their proximity to the espale, the galley embarkation points near the poop. The espaliers
set the stroke for the whole ship.
The two forward head rowers were the connillers, who also had responsibility for positioning the anchors.

So basically when a command was given to slow down, speed up etc., it was directed at the espaliers and all the other
lead rowers duplicated their action.

From the same book, The Age of the Galley, which includes a detailed analysis from the engineering and ergonomic
stand points, which concludes that the majority of the rowers effort went into simply maneuvering the oar and their own
bodies, with the result that only a small percentage of their energy expenditure was actually translated into forward motion.
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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #79 on: July 12, 2015, 02:18:51 AM »
hi all well I'm as happy as a frog on a lilly pad the parts have arrived an idea can finally finish this build, thanks for sticking with it and giving me the enthusiasm to keep going. Hope you will all stay to the bitter end.

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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #80 on: July 12, 2015, 10:04:55 PM »
Hi all a small update, everyone was telling me the sails should not be billowing in different directions, contrary to the instructions and the fact that the sails are vac formed and can only but put on that way, I decided to make sure its right I would do the fore mast sail furled.







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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #81 on: July 19, 2015, 04:46:21 PM »
Hi all a little update on the Reale, I thought I would try to improve the way the rowers handles are depicted.









so, only 29 more to go

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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #82 on: July 24, 2015, 03:23:39 AM »
Hi all well here is an update on this build someone told me the clew? was missing, well apparently this is it (the loose flap of sail from the furled sail)in the first picture.







I've added all the cannons now as well.






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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #83 on: July 24, 2015, 05:23:57 AM »
Sooooo many detailed items in this build.  Particularly painting and rope work.
Super nice :)

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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #84 on: July 30, 2015, 03:14:58 AM »
Hi all didn't like the oar handle, too irregular, so browsing the net I found these, they are OO gauge steps (1/87) so near enough.



But as you can see they are too wide



so with my guage



I whittled them down a bit



cut to length



split



and with a little bit of fettling they will all look the same now


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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #85 on: August 01, 2015, 03:01:31 AM »
Hi all, well I think I'm on the last leg of this build, this is half way there with the oars

just these left to do

every single oar has this huge seam on it, so, only32 to sort


I really feel this is nearing the end now, once I add the oars it will be huge, no idea what I will do with it when done, I had my warspite dio in the local library, but now thats back due to the library re-utilising the areas and no longer having room for it (a polite way of saying no one was interested in it) so now I've got that back too. argh I have no room.

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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #86 on: August 03, 2015, 01:06:56 AM »
Well I am so annoyed I thought I had some oars over and I had finished them but no, stupid idiot there are 32 PAIRS of oars, not 32 oars, now I have to order more of the steps to cut down for the handles, or I display it from one side only.























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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #87 on: August 03, 2015, 03:50:05 PM »
Looks awesome, wonderful work  :) :) 8)
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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #88 on: August 05, 2015, 02:00:56 AM »
Well I've got to do all 64 oars again, I ordered some more ladders to do the handles with ( ordered more than I needed as I could see them being usefull for other things) luckily I ordered the wrong bits.









now when you compare them, I just have to redo all of them






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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #89 on: August 07, 2015, 03:19:22 AM »
Hi all I've been racking my brains trying to think of a way to do the tassels round the canopy, I cant find any which match the cord I've done the flags on the mast with, so,came up with this.
take a piece of double sided tape and stick it to a piece of paper

tack that each end to a lollipop stick

wind the gold thread round the lollipop stick

Cut along the edge

then glue in place







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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #90 on: August 07, 2015, 04:47:32 AM »
Your attention to detail, building skills, patience and hence the results far surpass mine :)
Viewers otta take time to visually explore pictures and absorb details.

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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #91 on: August 08, 2015, 01:57:48 AM »
Looks great.
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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #92 on: August 08, 2015, 04:03:28 AM »
Dun da da da,da its finished
I will post better pics tomorrow but here she is.
I few suggestions for anyone building this, don't glue the trumpets on the angels on the stern till the kit is finished( cant count the number of times I've knocked them off). do not glue the side railings on till the end they were constantly getting in the way making it difficult on numerous occasions, and most annoyingly including the rigging stage, I know you tie some of the rigging off onto it but you could always tie off to the framework some where temporarily.
other than that it is a great kit and all goes together well.



































I would like to thank everyone for keeping me motivated on this kit, as without you I would have given up at the first hurdle.

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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #93 on: August 08, 2015, 04:16:10 AM »


Cheers,

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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #94 on: August 08, 2015, 04:46:01 AM »
What will probably happen is it will end up in a plastic bag till my next Ipms rivenhalls meeting then go in the spares drawer or the bin, you are very kind with your comment but it certainly is not museum quality.

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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #95 on: August 08, 2015, 04:48:26 AM »
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #96 on: August 08, 2015, 09:14:54 AM »
Marcus Brody agrees with you.

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I am giving up listing them. They all end up on the shelf of procrastination anyways.

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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #97 on: August 08, 2015, 01:21:26 PM »
That is an absolutely gorgeous piece of work and I'll add my voice to the "That belongs in a museum" chorus.

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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #98 on: August 08, 2015, 06:29:24 PM »
Hi all heres some better pics.
this kit is sold in thousands and I've seen far better examples, a museum would not be interested in a model kit, only scratch built kits, and they would need to be far more accurate than this kit.
but thanks for the compliments.



























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Re: Heller 1/75 La Reale De France
« Reply #99 on: August 09, 2015, 10:36:11 AM »
Superb work, congrats finishing this to such a standard :) :) :) 8) 8) 8)
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