Author Topic: Focke Wulf Secret Projects  (Read 23524 times)

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« on: January 18, 2012, 05:49:29 PM »
Hi again.

Another file set of profiles, this time featuring Focke Wulf WW2 secret projects.

P

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 05:50:49 PM »
And some more...

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 05:52:01 PM »
another 4...

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 05:53:29 PM »
another 4.

More to follow later.

Many thanks
P

Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 01:09:23 AM »
Great stuff!

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 03:38:26 AM »
Thank you very much.

There are more....
The first pair of plates are as the original P250 presented to the RLM.
The design was thought to show promise but the RLM noted some areas that it thought would be of some benefit.
So the second plates are my interpretation of the RLMs points using other Focke Wulf design features.

P

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 04:05:19 AM »
Lovely.
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Online apophenia

  • Perversely enjoys removing backgrounds.
  • Patterns? What patterns?
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 05:56:07 AM »
You said it! That P.250 'Yellow 8' is my fav though  :-*
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 04:28:57 PM »
Again many thanks.
And again a few more Fws.

P

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2012, 04:30:58 PM »
4 more...

Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 12:36:07 AM »
 :)

Online apophenia

  • Perversely enjoys removing backgrounds.
  • Patterns? What patterns?
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 09:44:24 AM »
Wow! I especially like the Entwurf II with 'tiger stripes' on aluminum -- shades of Sabres to come!
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 04:03:20 PM »
Good morning.
It's amazing just how many post war aircraft of all Nations seem to have more than a passing similarity to these projects.

P

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 04:05:03 PM »
4 more...

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 04:06:49 PM »
4 more...

Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2012, 11:00:51 PM »
Quote
It's amazing just how many post war aircraft of all Nations seem to have more than a passing similarity to these projects.

Indeed! It's amazing how similar the Fw 3 x 1000C looks to a few post-war Republic projects.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2012, 11:05:06 PM by Empty Handed »

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2012, 11:25:25 PM »
Hi Empty Handed
I agree.
Even our beloved 'Vulcan' looks like it might have been influenced by some of the WW2 Lippisch designs for example.
Lippisch profiles coming soon BTW.

P
 :)

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2012, 04:22:43 PM »
4 more... :)

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2012, 04:52:14 PM »
Sweet!
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline Brian da Basher

  • He has an unnatural attraction to Spats...and a growing fascination with airships!
  • Holding Pattern
  • *
  • Hulk smash, Brian bash
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2012, 09:22:33 PM »
Work like this is sure to get lots of our imaginations running in high gear!

Brian da Basher

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2012, 04:48:13 PM »
A little more imagination food...

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2012, 05:03:38 PM »
Love the idea of a carrier version.  Does anyone know of a kit?
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2012, 06:57:11 PM »
Love the idea of a carrier version.  Does anyone know of a kit?

Yes I do.
Unicraft do it as Fw P127 (PTL). Cost around US$30 I think.

Cheers
P

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2012, 02:21:53 AM »
1/72 unfortunately...for me who prefers 1/48
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2012, 04:09:43 PM »
Ah well, maybe someone will do a 1/48th some day.
Otherwise it looks like a bit of scratch-building.

I think there is a 1/48th of the Flitzer, which has a similar forward fuselage, but a lot of the kit would be 'gash'.

P

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2012, 05:09:08 PM »
I have the 1/48 Planet Models Flitzer so maybe.
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline finsrin

  • The Dr Frankenstein of the modelling world...when not hiding from SBA
  • Finds part glues it on, finds part glues it on....
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2012, 07:07:41 PM »
TA-183 and P250 look kinda "miggy" depending on view.

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2012, 09:08:48 PM »
TA-183 and P250 look kinda "miggy" depending on view.

You could be right...
It is commonly regarded that the Ta183 did indeed become, or at least have huge influences, on the MiG 15.
The Fw250 also influenced Russian post war jets.

The Focke Wulf factory was over-run and captured by Russian forces towards the end of WW2.

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2012, 08:44:17 PM »
4 more...

Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2012, 02:23:52 AM »
The Ta 283s are great!

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2012, 12:49:35 AM »
Curious?
I'm getting the blue boxed question marks on profiles that were fine yesterday.
The more recent additions seem to be fine.

Any tweaks going on with site?

P

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2012, 02:05:10 AM »

Any tweaks going on with site?



Yes - see here - we're working on them.
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2012, 06:03:11 AM »
I have a 1/48 Ta-283 kit that may end up as something amphibious...hint, hint! ;)
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Online apophenia

  • Perversely enjoys removing backgrounds.
  • Patterns? What patterns?
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2012, 07:14:10 AM »
Amphibious?!?  Might need a smidge more dihedral on those engine mounts  ;D
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2012, 07:16:48 AM »
Practicality be damned!
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2012, 04:19:32 PM »
Amphibious eh?

We'll see.

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2012, 12:14:19 AM »
4 more...

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2012, 04:08:02 PM »
4 more...

Offline JP Vieira

  • The Challenge Master!!!
    • What-If World
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2012, 07:31:00 PM »
Very good

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2012, 02:40:00 AM »
Sweet!
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2012, 10:44:56 PM »
A little more sugar then.

Many thanks
P

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2012, 12:09:11 AM »
I found a few more...

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2012, 03:53:17 PM »
Last of the current Fw file.

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2012, 03:15:56 AM »
This time some Focke Wulfs, part of my new set.

P

Offline RussC

  • Our own personal dragon trainer...with a flying wing fetish
  • Resident Painter
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2012, 02:43:03 PM »
Latest in a long line of great projects. Thanks for posting all of these.  :)

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2012, 05:30:41 PM »
 :)
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2012, 04:17:45 AM »
Many thanks
I have quite a few more Focke Wulf profiles to add soon.

P :D

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2012, 03:06:51 AM »
As promised...more Focke Wulfs.

P

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2012, 03:08:08 AM »
4 more...

Offline Logan Hartke

  • High priest in the black arts of profiling...
  • Rivet-counting whiffer
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2012, 04:11:57 AM »
I love the camo on the Schnellbomber.

Cheers,

Logan

Online apophenia

  • Perversely enjoys removing backgrounds.
  • Patterns? What patterns?
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2012, 09:41:42 AM »
Yes, wonderful skin textures too  :)
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2012, 03:13:14 AM »
Love the Schnellbomber!!!  Will have to look up more on that one.
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #52 on: October 14, 2012, 11:40:04 PM »
A few more, including the two versions of the Schnellbomber.

P

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #53 on: October 14, 2012, 11:45:44 PM »
Two more Schnellbomber plates plus a development of the Fw187.

P

Online apophenia

  • Perversely enjoys removing backgrounds.
  • Patterns? What patterns?
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2012, 05:33:05 AM »
Nice  :) That gull-winged P222.004 schnellbomber is an evil-looking machine! Is the nose MG151 on the P222.001 a fixed gun or flexible?
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz

Offline lauhof52

  • Dutchie
  • The Decimator Guy!
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2012, 02:41:38 AM »
The Stuka is wonderful!

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2012, 02:55:32 AM »
Nice  :) That gull-winged P222.004 schnellbomber is an evil-looking machine! Is the nose MG151 on the P222.001 a fixed gun or flexible?

Fixed, as I understand.  :)

Some more Stuka renderings.
P

Online apophenia

  • Perversely enjoys removing backgrounds.
  • Patterns? What patterns?
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2012, 10:15:02 AM »
Fixed, as I understand.  :)

Thanks, that makes sense of the positioning.

The Fw 187 Stuka is a formidible-looking bird. The original is prettier but this development looks more purposeful  :)
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz

Offline Queeg

  • Master armour builder
  • Lost but now foun .... nope - still lost!
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2012, 05:49:49 PM »
Recently joined and just catching up with much of what's been posted, your profiles are a fantastic resource and inspiration ....
Brent

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2012, 03:09:59 AM »
Fixed, as I understand.  :)

Thanks, that makes sense of the positioning.

The Fw 187 Stuka is a formidible-looking bird. The original is prettier but this development looks more purposeful  :)

I know what you mean  :).

And welcome aboard Brent.

P :)

Offline athpilot

  • Newly Joined - Welcome me!
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2012, 09:52:35 PM »
Hello!

I like your profiles soo much! Very good job! I'm interested, because I'm an Aviationhistorian (from Germany). I'd like to express some wishes for possible future Secret Projects: What about a nice Junkers Ju 288A (with its powerful and ingenious Jumo 222)? I'd also like to see some german "Fight Helicopters", e.g. the Flettner Fl 282 with guns (MK 103) or this heli as an Sub Hunter or a Fa 339. A Focke Achgelis Fa  284 "Sky Crane" would be stunning. And how about an armed Fa 223 (e.g. with an Torpedo or with R4MP pod). The Skoda-Kauba SK V5 is a beautiful fighter. And finally some Rockets: how about a german ICBM or a manned version of the A11 (as for as I know even spacecapsules were considered) with a german "Astronaut" entering it. So far (about my spinning). ;)

Online raafif

  • Is formally accused of doing nasty things to DC-3s...and officially our first whiffing zombie
  • Whiffing Insane
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2012, 05:01:07 AM »
I like your thinking athpilot ....... so how about it Flitzer ??  Along with some He-319 supa-Owls, He-477 and others that the usual Luft '46 guys won't consider.

Offline finsrin

  • The Dr Frankenstein of the modelling world...when not hiding from SBA
  • Finds part glues it on, finds part glues it on....
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #62 on: October 19, 2012, 04:06:56 PM »
Nice - love those Schnellbombers  :-*

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #63 on: October 19, 2012, 11:13:53 PM »
Many thanks.
athpilot and raafif thanks for the suggestions. I'll see what I can do when I come to my next set of German projects.

I'm planning a set of French and Italian WW2 projects next, so after that .... ;)
P

Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2012, 07:21:42 PM »
The Fw-187 Stuka is just beautiful!

Offline athpilot

  • Newly Joined - Welcome me!
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2012, 05:33:55 AM »
Hello Flitzer!
French and Italian projects are great news! Just can't wait...
b.t.w.: did you ever thougth of soviet projects? They had very good engineers and amazing projects (not only) on their drawing boards. 8)
Bye

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #66 on: October 26, 2012, 03:46:28 PM »
Hello Flitzer!
French and Italian projects are great news! Just can't wait...
b.t.w.: did you ever thougth of soviet projects? They had very good engineers and amazing projects (not only) on their drawing boards. 8)
Bye
Hi athpilot,
yes I have and probably will get around to doing some Soviet Secret projects and some American ones too.

So much to do and not enough time to do it all....I can see a lifetime's work in front of me.... ;)

P

Offline athpilot

  • Newly Joined - Welcome me!
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #67 on: October 28, 2012, 09:12:53 PM »
Hi Flitzer!

Yes I know what you mean... But maybe I can help somehow. (I've done some research in German and Soviet Aviation in the 20th century and also in East German Aviationresearch [Luftfahrtforschung]).

athpilot

Offline Flitzer

  • Was reportedly smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip
Re: Focke Wulf Secret Projects
« Reply #68 on: November 02, 2012, 04:51:34 PM »
Many thanks for your kind offer athpilot.
I'll definitely give you a call when I get started.

Thank you again.
Peter