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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2013, 10:25:43 AM »
I can see Lippisch coming up with the concept but with Messerschmitt doing considerable "refining" in developing the design.

Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2013, 07:25:21 AM »
Not sure this is the right place for this but I have some spare J79 nacelles from a 1/128(?) Hustler that I want to stick onto a suitable 50's fighter Super Lorin/Blinder style. Does anybody have any suggestions?

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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2013, 09:12:37 AM »
Not sure this is the right place for this but I have some spare J79 nacelles from a 1/128(?) Hustler that I want to stick onto a suitable 50's fighter Super Lorin/Blinder style. Does anybody have any suggestions?
Would that be the old Monogram kit?  Perhaps a 1/72 F-102 with the inlets faired over and the back end of that B-58 replacing the exhaust nozzle.  Cluster the pods two to a side at the base of the vertical fin.

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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2013, 06:10:04 AM »
I recall reading something a while back about the B-58 being retired due to airframe stress brought about by flying at low altitudes for which it was not designed.  When the B-52 went to low level flight the tail was reduced in size.  How much of a reduction in size of the B-58 tail would be needed for the same purposes?  Perhaps something in the shape of the F-111 tail in shape and size? 
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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2013, 01:36:23 PM »
I wonder if Stargazer could do his photoshop magic with this picture and eliminate the Hustler's four wing-mounted J79 turbojet pods and nacelles, so leaving the design to look like it is only powered by the J93?? ;)

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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2013, 03:04:14 AM »
Errr...would that be this picture?

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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2013, 05:55:26 AM »
That suggests a late-60's whif to me.  A NB-58 in a similar configuration, but the pod would be for testing the GE4 engine for the SST.  I'm not sure if one could fit the SST's inlet, given that it was a 3-D spike inlet, or if you'd need to go with one like this.

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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2013, 07:28:47 AM »
Lone star Models do a conversion in 1/48:

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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2013, 09:18:29 AM »
Link to YouTube Video Search Results for "Convair B-58 Hustler"

This one in particular was very interesting as it shows the B-58 Hustler operating at very low level and high speed:
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And to spice it up a bit more there is this Blog entry from "Bring The Heat Bring The Stupid on USAF Operation Bulls Eye (low level Hustler) which is where I found the link to the YouTube video of the B-58 Hustler low level fight testing.  The bonus is the digital artwork of the B-58 wearing the SIOP camouflage with the black underside.   


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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2013, 09:52:24 AM »


Erik Simonsen did a composite image of one of those recently.  Very pretty.

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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2014, 08:02:17 PM »
Thinking RAAF low level penetrator in overall Foliage Green (like some WWII RAAF combat aircraft), maybe a conventionally armed B-58A but leaning towards a specialist penetrator / interdictor with more powerful alternate engines preferably more economical turbo fans, either afterburning or non afterburning but with super cruise capability. i.e. Sprey, Conway, Olympus (yes and maybe possibly Iroquois).  Pave Tac or Pave Spike either pylon or pod mounted, maybe a rotary bomb bay fitted to the semi permanent centre line pod.  Pylon mounted Shrikes, HARMs, Standard ARMs, possibly Sidewinder and Phoenix ;D.  In built Wild Weasel kit, jamming pods.  Possibly DSTO (fictional) developed Laser Guided missile using Paveway seeker and maybe Standard ARM airframe and motor for stand off attacks against difficult targets.

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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2015, 09:22:09 AM »
This was a B-58 until Gerry Anderson intervened:



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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2015, 10:49:53 AM »
Anderson or his effects boss Derek Meddings? I'd wager the latter.

Much of the tech from Anderson's various series was not designed by Anderson, he was more involved with the puppets,
but by his effects team led by Meddings. Mike Trim designed a number of the machines.

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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2015, 04:53:25 AM »
Interesting pic I found online - note the Canards:

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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2015, 06:12:22 AM »
Shorter vertical fin, perhaps longer in chord (looking like the fin from the F-111 for example) to give the B-58 better performance at low level flight?
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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2015, 06:25:59 AM »
Nice.

Did you see the artists name?   "McCall"
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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2015, 06:33:18 AM »
Nice.

Did you see the artists name?   "McCall"

Indeed.  Artwork: “Failsafe” Saturday Evening Post Cover (October 13, 1962) by Robert McCall.
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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2015, 06:35:13 AM »
Cool photo:

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« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2015, 08:00:45 AM »
Nice.

Did you see the artists name?   "McCall"

Indeed.  Artwork: “Failsafe” Saturday Evening Post Cover (October 13, 1962) by Robert McCall.

Ah. That explains the very Moscovian cityscape.
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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2016, 04:03:59 AM »
Could make an interesting diorama:

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« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2016, 05:52:19 AM »
Could make an interesting diorama:




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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2016, 07:43:30 AM »
A ZELL launcher might be as big as a neighborhood strip mall but it might be interesting.   
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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2016, 07:58:30 AM »
Needs a RATO or catapult to really impress.  :)
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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2016, 08:38:36 PM »
Needs a RATO or catapult to really impress.  :)

Would that RATO be the size of a Minuteman III? 

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Re: Convair (General Dynamics) B-58 Hustler
« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2016, 12:03:00 AM »
Needs a RATO or catapult to really impress.  :)

Would that RATO be the size of a Minuteman III? 

I seem to talk myself in and out of adding a B-58 to the collection...and here you all go finding cool artwork and ideas to tempt me.

I'm debating about selling my 1/48 scale kit. I WANT to sell it, then I see something cool  :-\ hell it just looks cool sitting there

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