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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2015, 07:08:10 AM »
That does look right doesn't it :)

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2015, 03:19:06 PM »
Beautiful!!! :)

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2015, 07:32:15 AM »
Nice!
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2017, 02:22:41 AM »
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2017, 10:56:10 PM »
Seriously contemplating a 1 Aviation Regiment Mirage 2000D. 

The back story being that army aviation (along with a FAA being formed) was retained post formation of the RAAF (which concentrated on strategic bombing to the detriment of pretty much all else), specifically to cover AOP, army cooperation, CAS and battlefield air superiority.  While there were Corps level aviation brigades and formation level aviation squadrons, the main effort was the divisional aviation regiment each consisting of one or two squadrons of fighters, one or two of dive bombers and one of army cooperation aircraft for AOP, FAC and liaison as well as a flight / troop of tactical reconnaissance aircraft. 

Initially the AEF (Australian Expeditionary Force / 2nd AIF) used what ever they could get (the preference being Hurricanes and Henlys) but by the end of the war were flying Typhoons/Tempests and Beaufighters or Mustangs and Mosquitos.  Post war they moved to Furys and Brigands, then adding Hawks to the mix, before moving to a Hunter/Super Hunter  and Canberra/B-57 mix, Mirage F-1 and Jaguar, then Mirage 2000C and D before the Rafale B and C.

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2017, 07:24:54 PM »
Seriously contemplating a 1 Aviation Regiment Mirage 2000D. 

The back story being that army aviation (along with a FAA being formed) was retained post formation of the RAAF (which concentrated on strategic bombing to the detriment of pretty much all else), specifically to cover AOP, army cooperation, CAS and battlefield air superiority.  While there were Corps level aviation brigades and formation level aviation squadrons, the main effort was the divisional aviation regiment each consisting of one or two squadrons of fighters, one or two of dive bombers and one of army cooperation aircraft for AOP, FAC and liaison as well as a flight / troop of tactical reconnaissance aircraft. 

Initially the AEF (Australian Expeditionary Force / 2nd AIF) used what ever they could get (the preference being Hurricanes and Henlys) but by the end of the war were flying Typhoons/Tempests and Beaufighters or Mustangs and Mosquitos.  Post war they moved to Furys and Brigands, then adding Hawks to the mix, before moving to a Hunter/Super Hunter  and Canberra/B-57 mix, Mirage F-1 and Jaguar, then Mirage 2000C and D before the Rafale B and C.


So, similar to my own timeline with the RAM's, then, where the RAAF is a purely strategic air force incorporating strategic bombers & interceptor fighters; Army air does as you've said; RAM's air does the same for the Marines; & RAN FAA is mostly ASW, AShW & fleet defence.

In my timeline the Army Air Service begins WW2 with a squadron of Avia B-534's on the books, while the RAM's have a squadron of Sea Gladiators (I know the timelines don't really match RW but I like both aircraft, which are both very similar in performance) ... Mind you I'm figuring the RAM's also have a squadron of hang-about Bristol F.2B's still flying, too.
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2017, 09:15:54 PM »
Its all good fun and serves the purpose of getting personal favourites into Australian service

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2017, 04:23:44 PM »
Yup! :smiley:
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2017, 05:01:26 AM »
For some reason I love the idea of an RAAF 2000N. One day I'll get around to it.
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2019, 08:12:25 AM »
Top: Mirage 2000H with what appears to be an inert/captive-training round of the R-73 missile.

Bottom: (Fanart?) Illustration of a possible application of Israeli weapons on the Mirage 2000.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2019, 08:14:08 AM by dy031101 »
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2019, 12:52:27 AM »
Random idea:  South African Mirage 2000
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2019, 06:34:58 PM »
What if Mirage 4000 derived from Mirage F1?


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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2020, 04:28:06 AM »
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2020, 06:46:31 AM »
Random idea:  Japanese Mirage 2000 in a scheme inspired by their F-2s:

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2020, 07:50:47 AM »
Random idea:  Japanese Mirage 2000 in a scheme inspired by their F-2s:


Better yet, a Mirage 4000 in such a scheme.

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2020, 02:13:22 AM »
Maybe but I would think that would clash with their F-15s...
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2020, 09:24:09 AM »
Maybe but I would think that would clash with their F-15s...
A point.  Besides, with Mirage 2000s, they could set up a joint maintenance facility with the ROC and both could save a bit.

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2020, 10:54:31 AM »
Maybe but I would think that would clash with their F-15s...

Instead of the F-15?

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2020, 02:54:04 AM »
I was sticking to the concept of the Mirage 2000 derived F-2 still being a replacement for the Mitsubishi F-1 fighter so the F-15J would still be in service.  Of course that could push a drive for some commonality - maybe a F100 or F110 powered Mirage 2000 variant?
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2020, 05:02:13 AM »
Or, for more commonality, a duo of Mirage 2000/4000 (with some japenese features of course) instead of the F-2/F15  8)

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #46 on: March 23, 2020, 01:27:15 AM »
Or, for more commonality, a duo of Mirage 2000/4000 (with some japenese features of course) instead of the F-2/F15  8)

Only issue here is with the following timeline:

Mitsubishi (McDonnell Douglas) F-15JDassault Mirage 4000
  • 27 July 1972 - F-15 prototype first flew;
  • June–July 1975 - JDA inspect F-15 as candidate for the replacement of the F-104J/DJ Starfighter and F-4EJ Phantom II;
  • December 1975 - F-15 was announced the winner, with the government intending to purchase 187 F-15J/DJs;
  • April 1978 - Mitsubishi Heavy Industries was designated as the primary contractor and licensing for the F-15C/D;
  • 4 June 1980 - first F-15J built in St. Louis was delivered to the United States Air Force for its first flight;
  • 15 July 1980 - first F-15J heads to Japan;
  • 26 August 1981 - First of 8 F-15Js to be assembled from components shipped to Japan makes its maiden flight
  • 1981 - 1997 - licensed production of aircraft by Mitsubishi.
  • 9 March 1979 - Mirage 4000 prototype first flew

For the Mirage 4000 to beat the F-15 I believe it would need to first fly at least 5yrs earlier.

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2020, 04:33:35 AM »
Right, I didn't think about this.

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2020, 06:20:10 AM »
I was sticking to the concept of the Mirage 2000 derived F-2 still being a replacement for the Mitsubishi F-1 fighter so the F-15J would still be in service.  Of course that could push a drive for some commonality - maybe a F100 or F110 powered Mirage 2000 variant?
F100 would likely be the best choice as it would require less structural rework around the engine bay as both it and the M53 have comparatively small inlets and rather larger afterburner diameters.  As an alternative, perhaps a pair of F404s to give extra thrust.

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2020, 03:38:06 AM »
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