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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on August 18, 2021, 01:23:16 AM

Title: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 18, 2021, 01:23:16 AM
A thread for your Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Eurocopter_Tigre.jpg)
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 18, 2021, 01:28:21 AM
To begin with, what about a dedicated naval version painted in a grey scheme and possible fitted with something such as Sea Skua or Penguin missiles?
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 18, 2021, 01:29:16 AM
Another idea:  in a few years Australia will be getting rid of their ARH Tigers.  Who might be a buyer?
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 18, 2021, 01:34:34 AM
To begin with, what about a dedicated naval version painted in a grey scheme and possible fitted with something such as Sea Skua or Penguin missiles?

And of course someone has kind of done it already:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49299193942_c3e605cd45_z.jpg)

More (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=47253.0)
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on August 18, 2021, 02:56:47 AM
To begin with, what about a dedicated naval version painted in a grey scheme and possible fitted with something such as Sea Skua or Penguin missiles?

And of course someone has kind of done it already:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49299193942_c3e605cd45_z.jpg)

More (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=47253.0)

Looks like one of Dizzy's builds (dizzyfugu on The What-If Forum)  -----   a quick search over there and yes it is --

https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=47253.msg865980#msg865980 (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=47253.msg865980#msg865980)
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 18, 2021, 02:58:23 AM
The link was in my post as well
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on August 18, 2021, 02:59:12 AM
A thread for your Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Eurocopter_Tigre.jpg)

Now I'm interested in that over the canopy radar ----- I wonder if any outfit does a resin one in 1/72 --
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on August 18, 2021, 03:00:51 AM
The link was in my post as well

D'oh!  missed that   :-[
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 18, 2021, 03:06:33 AM
Its not a radar but rather a roof-mounted sight with TV camera, thermal imager, laser rangefinder, laser designator, and a laser spot tracker:

(https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/m02006120200125.jpg)
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 18, 2021, 03:11:30 AM
A surprisingly good overview:  https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.wordpress.com/2015/11/08/french-ec665-tiger-had/
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on August 18, 2021, 04:06:34 AM
Its not a radar but rather a roof-mounted sight with TV camera, thermal imager, laser rangefinder, laser designator, and a laser spot tracker:

(https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/m02006120200125.jpg)

That's exactly what I'm after Greg --  :smiley:  Looking on the Air-Graphics website there is something close, a sight mounted on the roof of a Lynx --
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ChernayaAkula on August 18, 2021, 04:58:14 AM
The recent(-ish, being from 2006) kit by Revell (LINK! (https://www.scalemates.com/de/kits/revell-04485-eurocopter-tiger-uht-hap--111436)) should have those parts. The kit comes with parts for both the German and the French versions. Nicking the sight for the French version will leave you with enough parts to build the German version.
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on August 18, 2021, 07:11:26 AM
And I happen to have that Revell boxing and their PAH-2 boxing, both being close to hand.  And yes it does have the parts ---- thanks for the heads-up Moritz  :smiley:

And another plan comes closer together  ----
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Volkodav on August 18, 2021, 02:26:35 PM
Following its success with the UH-72 Lakota, Airbus US successfully bid the Tiger as a replacement for the cancelled AH-70 Arapaho. 

Entering service with the US army and demonstrating significantly improved performance over the AH-1Z the USMC evaluated the type against the Viper and determined that Tiger would be procured instead of new build AH-1Zs.  While this led to a situation of the USMC operating a mixed fleet of rebuilt AH-1Ws and Tigers, the impact was not as great as feared as the USMC version had a very high level of commonality with the US Army version, delivering significant economies of scale.

Interestingly Australia's development, integration and certification of Hellfire and other key US systems on Tiger led to significant royalties together with coproduction options for Australia.  Tiger also entered in a spiral development program for the US, which Australia became a full partner in, eventually leveraging additional airframes, local assembly and becoming a key strategic supplier to the US fleet.
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: apophenia on August 19, 2021, 01:35:40 AM
... and other key US systems on Tiger ...

I'm wondering about American engines for that hypothetical US Tiger. The in-service T700s (or new T901) could be governed but, other than diameter, are bigger all around and heavier than the MTR390. Maybe the LHTEC T800? Power output is about right and the T800 is smaller and lighter than the MTR ... so, should just drop in?
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on August 19, 2021, 02:38:01 AM
And I happen to have that Revell boxing and their PAH-2 boxing, both being close to hand.  And yes it does have the parts ---- thanks for the heads-up Moritz  :smiley:

And another plan comes closer together  ----

So looking at the parts, I've got a couple of other projects it might just be what I need. I think the bits are going to develop a fetish for rubber --  ;)
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 19, 2021, 03:11:20 AM
... and other key US systems on Tiger ...

I'm wondering about American engines for that hypothetical US Tiger. The in-service T700s (or new T901) could be governed but, other than diameter, are bigger all around and heavier than the MTR390. Maybe the LHTEC T800? Power output is about right and the T800 is smaller and lighter than the MTR ... so, should just drop in?

I would go for either the T700 or T800
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 19, 2021, 03:22:48 AM
Appropriate scheme:

(https://static.warthunder.com/upload/image/!%202019%20NEWS/08%20August/Tiger/eurocopter_tiger_03_1280h720_dac7c7fc8fba82177b53f8ff31c6ee57.jpg)
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on August 20, 2021, 06:36:42 AM
(http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/black-hole-vincent-old-bob.jpg)
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 21, 2021, 02:19:24 AM
You lost me there Jon ???
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 21, 2021, 02:39:47 AM
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/photo_9999_319098.jpg)
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 21, 2021, 02:55:11 AM
Some other interesting photos:

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/17359264_1428952417163499_2786217052549698302_o.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/17352045_1428975943827813_5194332985362670055_n.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/17342808_1428947740497300_7538431978735263140_n.jpg)
(https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/51bb85e/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2047x1151+0+0/resize/840x472!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fe2%2F98%2Fa87ea15b72c181b2a5dc37b841eb%2Fla-1526496592-527uoxuvyd-snap-image)
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 21, 2021, 02:58:43 AM
What about the Tiger in a dedicated air-to-air fighter style role with IRIS-T etc ?
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on August 21, 2021, 06:24:02 AM
You lost me there Jon ???
;D  ;D
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/7084eafcbda64318c2f60dd0e5e56c30/tumblr_p1ln1r2iw71wzypxlo1_500.gifv)

Itís V.I.N.CENT from the Black Hole. Itís what the turret looks like.  ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Hole_(1979_film)
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: apophenia on August 21, 2021, 10:12:14 AM
Separated at birth?
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on August 22, 2021, 05:28:36 AM
Separated at birth?

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Pretty much.  :icon_fsm:
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 23, 2021, 01:17:29 AM
When one looks at this Spanish Tiger, it doesn't take much imagination to see it in Israeli markings... ;)

(https://p6.pstatp.com/origin/pgc-image/4a729924264b44e484f1bf0d54d06c48.jpeg)
Title: Re: Eurocopter EC665 Tiger/Tigre Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 23, 2021, 02:00:16 AM
Showing the engine details (CFBV):

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/photo_9999_105991.jpg)