Beyond The Sprues
Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => 1920s/1930s GB or Between the Wars GB => Topic started by: Frank3k on July 06, 2021, 03:31:06 AM
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This was going to be a 1/35 vehicle based on the Morgan 3 wheeler:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Morgan_3-Wheeler%2C_front_left_%28Amagansett%29.jpg/800px-Morgan_3-Wheeler%2C_front_left_%28Amagansett%29.jpg)
I took apart the Zvezda 1/35 M-72 (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/zvezda-3639-m-72--103004) hoping that the BMW engine would look OK, but it's too small. The Morgan front end and engine looks complicated and I didn't want to go down the rabbit hole to try and copy the structure. Since I couldn't find a good, large (1/24-1/35) motorcycle engine (and didn't want to design one) I modified the vehicle. It looks a bit like a cartoon car now, but so be it.
(https://i.imgur.com/bBzXLeY.jpg)
I kept the Zvezda M-72 wheels, since there are three plus a spare. For the engine, headlights, some of the interior and the body frame, I'm using the blue hot rod from the Lindberg 1/32 Show Rods (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/lindberg-hl136-show-rods--1152247) I tried to hide as much of the steering linkage in the elliptical structure under the radiator under the excuse that this makes it more "aerodynamic"
(https://i.imgur.com/gjfXKKv.jpg)
The body is sized to the frame, except for a little bit that sticks out the end (which I'll cut off)
(https://i.imgur.com/P3MDesH.jpg)
The instrument panel may not make the final cut, but I can make it a center drive or right, left hand drive
(https://i.imgur.com/oRvAXKa.jpg)
Most of the detail bits will be added after printing. Some details (like engine cooling side vents) are missing from the model and will be added.
(https://i.imgur.com/IMvVHeQ.jpg)
Rhino 3D has a nice "artistic" display mode:
(https://i.imgur.com/28HnLes.jpg)
I called it the "Eastborne" because it's the first model I've designed/built at my new place. Hopefully I'll be able to get it done in time.
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This was going to be a 1/35 vehicle based on the Morgan 3 wheeler:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Morgan_3-Wheeler%2C_front_left_%28Amagansett%29.jpg/800px-Morgan_3-Wheeler%2C_front_left_%28Amagansett%29.jpg)
I actually looked to buying one of those a few years back.
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Love the Morgan 3-wheelers. Really looking forward to your Eastborne :smiley: :smiley:
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Needs a V-8 Hemi!
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I like the Morgan, but for $60K+, I think I'd want something slightly more practical!
This car will have a pretty big engine. I need to get all the chrome off of it, though.
Peter Sellers drove a Morgan in "The Party", which is a hilarious movie for the first 3/4:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/58/b4/35/58b435540b1a398f754ee402d3b5e21f.jpg)
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I would have loved the EV3:
(https://www.topgear.com/sites/default/files/images/news-listicle/items2/2021/03/49c70f714c123938cfc196cb154573c8/ev3h5.jpg?w=1654&h=930)
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/concept/whatever-happened-morgan-ev3 (https://www.topgear.com/car-news/concept/whatever-happened-morgan-ev3)
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The EV3 looks very cool. The range isn't too bad considering it's basically a three wheeled motorcycle.
Top Gear wasn't impressed with the gas powered Morgan, but it may have been the weather:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiktgVnoOr0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiktgVnoOr0)
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Nice idea !
I had thought of building something similar, to use up some spare parts, but I wouldn't have time to get it finished in this GB . . .
Be interesting to see how this turns out. 8)
cheers,
Robin.
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Yep, me too. Except, lacking spare parts, Frank's Eastbourne has prompt the gathering of random pixel inspiration.
Fortunately, mine will be a sideview ... which makes not succumbing to the evil temptations that EV3 grill and offset headlight so much easier!
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I've been tempted to go back and redesign the front of mine...
I'm getting a new printer (a Saturn) this week, which should print about 2x-3x faster... but I'll have to set it up (it's much bigger than my current Mars Pro). So if I print with the Mars Pro this weekend, it'll take about 6 hours to print (barring disasters). If I wait and use the new printer, it'll take a few hours to set up but it would only take a couple of hours or so to print (fail quicker and more often!)
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I've been tempted to go back and redesign the front of mine...
Mor-Gan, Mor-Gan, Mor-Gan! ;D
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Nice ! :smiley:
cheers,
Robin.
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Needs a V-8 Hemi!
Like the supercharged 181 in3 Novi V-8:
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r6qtRjCFh8c/W1j7rGeJRoI/AAAAAAAAqgY/cIbyYIUbgHcA6sYDNi9l_DmpeDFpTiiJwCLcBGAs/s1600/NOVIV8.jpg)
Or perhaps a Tatra air-cooled V-8:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-aNmIufRUd6I/TaN8oyP473I/AAAAAAAACjE/isC4pwCmPsM/s1600/1947_Tatra_T-87_Saloon_-_Engine_Compartment_%2528Lane_Motor_Museum%2529.jpg)
;)
:icon_fsm:
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Here's the latest. I bent the radiator, but not as much as the EV3 since there are structures I need that get in the way of the fancier view:
(https://i.imgur.com/rTdrSsT.jpg)
The engine will be the one in the Lindberg 1/32 "Super Roadster" - some sort of V-8.
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I like the new grill - I was going to suggest something like a Morgan version of the Cord front end, but the wave front is pretty nice.
(fail quicker and more often!) - I may have to steal that as a new shop motto. ;)
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Here's the latest. I bent the radiator, but not as much as the EV3 ...
Ooo, that is lovely :-* Nice work Frank!
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I like the new grill - I was going to suggest something like a Morgan version of the Cord front end, but the wave front is pretty nice.
(fail quicker and more often!) - I may have to steal that as a new shop motto. ;)
I was going to incorporate some Cord features, but just couldn't wrap my brain on how. I even tried adding flip up headlights; I may try that as an option.
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The first test print was not great, but good enough to test fit. Considering that I haven't designed or printed anything since Feb. , I consider it a not-failure. I've redesigned it as a single part body (instead of three) and it's printing now. I may not be able to finish this before the end of the GB.
Front view. There was some damage to the grill when I removed the supports:
(https://i.imgur.com/e2KLgYW.jpg)
I had to cut down the engine (it's a four cylinder now). I only need the bottom half:
(https://i.imgur.com/L9O3MD5.jpg)
I may have underscaled this. Here's a trimmed down 1/32 seat. It looks OK, but this definitely a one person vehicle:
(https://i.imgur.com/v2bAeyi.jpg)
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Frank: If that's the 'test shot', can't wait to see the real deal :smiley:
Love the new hood and grill. But, as you say, definitely a single-seater ;D
Front view. There was some damage to the grill when I removed the supports...
A little road damage? A few stone chips in the bright work?
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Looking good.
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I changed the name slightly - it's now Eastbourne (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastbourne)
This latest print came out well; better than expected. Fresh from the wash, but before fully curing - the one piece body, with the "cockpit" included:
(https://i.imgur.com/ln9nC4c.jpg)
Front end, also a single unit. I went with Cord style flip up lights:
(https://i.imgur.com/prLTr1F.jpg)
Held together with tape and blue-tack (white in this case). The headlight is from a 1/24 kit; I forgot to print the one I made. It may be a little too big. I have a smaller headlight I can substitute:
(https://i.imgur.com/xTyF8co.jpg)
Detail on the hood emblem/radiator cap. I'll sand away the printing artifacts (although primer will take care of most of them):
(https://i.imgur.com/xTMSSN0.jpg)
It looks like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/zJxC2ZK.jpg)
Side view - Blue is plastic, black wheels are from the Zvezda kit. This is a great resin - it's a high resolution engineering resin and pretty strong; fully cured, it's tappable. Not that I'm going to thread any bolts into this:
(https://i.imgur.com/zeLdQWh.jpg)
With Nigel (but no seat):
(https://i.imgur.com/Mi6ZBL7.jpg)
This is more like an adult's go-cart:
(https://i.imgur.com/tEO6MTS.jpg)
Still to do is make the instrument panel and steering wheel (although I may go with a yoke; the Lindberg kit's steering wheel is ridiculously small) and prime the printed parts and sand away the printing artifacts.
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Frank: Hopes were high but this is gob-smackingly-good :smiley: :smiley:
Love the flip-out headlights (Cord was always a favorite). Good call on making your own steering wheel (or yoke). A teensy steering wheel would look out of scale on a cycle-car.
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That looks fantastic! :D
Not something that I could get into but really impressed with what you're doing with the printer! 8)
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Looking good.
Your making me want to buy a 3D printer. But space and cost are a bit limiting ;)
Mog
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:smiley:
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Thanks guys. Resin printers can be annoying - cleanup and curing require a lot of shop towels, gloves and an alcohol (or water, depending on the resin) The results are great, though.
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Looks very cool. :smiley:
Surely a stylish fellow with an Eastbourne would invest in Woodlites. ;)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7234/27287315591_2d5673ca5f_b.jpg)
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Frank, great print. The new age modeller is all about design ability on the computer and you are all over it.
What really got a tick from me was Nigel's cap and the jaunty angle....... great detail :smiley: :smiley:
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Almost done. I just need an era appropriate UK license plate.
I shot these pictures in the afternoon Sun and bits of metal in the aluminum paint sparkled, making the finish look rougher than it is. The line across the hood is an Archer resin decal.
(https://i.imgur.com/vrmxC3T.jpg)
Instrument panel is just a few aircraft IP decals on a piece of sytrene. The windshield is clear plastic from a container. I ran a Molotow pen around the edge for the frame:
(https://i.imgur.com/MQNFV6k.jpg)
No roll bar, because it didn't look good. The driver will just have to put up with a broken neck if there's a rollover:
(https://i.imgur.com/oiDdv1s.jpg)
I brushed Molotow ink (from a refill) on the grill and on the headlamp:
(https://i.imgur.com/bVJ56Ga.jpg)
I'll try to photograph this under less harsh light tomorrow.
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I'm calling this one finished. There are some visible print lines still, but I'm not going to fix them.
I noticed that the front left wheel isn't straight. They're just in place, si I fixed it after I took this picture. The license plate is based on a 1930s plate from the UK:
(https://i.imgur.com/xfeH2DE.jpg)
The inspector is writing down what he doesn't like about this model:
(https://i.imgur.com/YfxGJJH.jpg)
I added some oil stains to the engine side. What British car does not leak oil? The diagonal line that seems to follow the control yoke is actually a printing artifact that I missed; either the printer's Z axis needs lube or I bumped the printer at that layer:
(https://i.imgur.com/zHnrcjj.jpg)
More inspecting:
(https://i.imgur.com/hwNth2L.jpg)
I got some of the white glue Ramba mentioned in one of his threads: Crafters Pick "The Ultimate", which is a white glue very similar to Gator's glue. It works well and 8ox should last for years.
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Thats a beauty :-* :-*
Mog
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Came out very nice.
Figure is a nice touch to scale it
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:smiley:
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I added some oil stains to the engine side. What British car does not leak oil?
To be really authentic, it needs a puddle of oil under the car :P
But that is an outstanding model all the same :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
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That looks fantastic Frank!
As said, the figure is instructive. He might be a nit-picky git but the inspector does give scale.
Those straight-through exhausts are awesome - no flip-flops and bare legs for Eastbourne drivers! As for rollover bars, cervical fractures might be a small price to pay for the 'care-free cool' image portrayed while bombing around in this 3-wheeler :smiley:
"What British car does not leak oil?"
Indeed. If you'd gone down Buzzbom's fibre optic route, you could have simulated British sportscar electrics - indicator arm set to turn right/left turn signals blinking ;)
I had to Google "Molotow pen". They have some intriguing stuff :smiley: Is yours a paint marker?
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Thanks guys. It was a bit of a rush job, but it came out OK.
The Molotow pens are the best, simple, chrome paints out there (vs going multi layer with stinky solvent based paints). The paint is closer to an acrylic (thins with alcohol easily) and dries quickly. For some of the parts I used the marker, but I also have the Molotow pen refill, which is just the paint in a convenient container. For a shiny chrome finish, it's hard to beat - especially since it's so easy to use. I haven't tried airbrushing it although I suspect thinning it enough to prevent clogging the airbrush will remove some of the shininess.
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To be really authentic, it needs a puddle of oil under the car
My Mom bought a used, "almost new" 1971 Austin America/BMC ADO16. It was a fun car to drive, when it wasn't in the garage to fix a fluid leak of some kind. Drive two weeks, spend a week in the garage...
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Thanks guys. It was a bit of a rush job, but it came out OK...
Hmmm... how much of that inspector's visage is actually a self-portrait Frank? ;D
The Molotow pens are the best, simple, chrome paints out there (vs going multi layer with stinky solvent based paints). The paint is closer to an acrylic (thins with alcohol easily) and dries quickly. For some of the parts I used the marker, but I also have the Molotow pen refill, which is just the paint in a convenient container. For a shiny chrome finish, it's hard to beat - especially since it's so easy to use. I haven't tried airbrushing it although I suspect thinning it enough to prevent clogging the airbrush will remove some of the shininess.
Thanks for that. This marker sounds like an ideal solution for chrome (especially considering that Bare Metal foil was just about the only chrome 'solution' back in the bad old days!). As you say, thinning will probably take away some of that shininess. I wonder if several layers applied with the airbrush would put back the shine?
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It looks like the Molotow chrome paint can be airbrushed directly from the refill bottle. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV9a1QxEw0A) Impressive results.
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It is impressive! And great subject too - love the Gru-mobile ;D
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That came out mighty nifty!
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XLNT!! Me Likey Mucho . . . :smiley: :smiley:
Fishtail exhausts would have been nice . . .
https://www.armoursltd.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/01113.jpg (https://www.armoursltd.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/01113.jpg)
. . . also British Racing Green with a race number in a white circle ! 8)
cheers,
Robin.
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To be really authentic, it needs a puddle of oil under the car
My Mom bought a used, "almost new" 1971 Austin America/BMC ADO16. It was a fun car to drive, when it wasn't in the garage to fix a fluid leak of some kind. Drive two weeks, spend a week in the garage...
Had to check what that was, it's an Austin 1100. Never knew they sold them in the USA.
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Fishtail exhausts would have been nice . . .
I had two, but they were too short, same with the original BMW exhausts.
Had to check what that was, it's an Austin 1100. Never knew they sold them in the USA.
I remember seeing more than one (usually in for repairs when we would drop ours off...) transmission issues were annoyingly common, but when it was running well the car was fun to drive.
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Thanks guys. It was a bit of a rush job, but it came out OK.
Your 'rush jobs' seem like prototypes from a professional run of commercial kits.
Jus' sayin'.