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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on July 26, 2015, 05:44:58 AM

Title: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 26, 2015, 05:44:58 AM

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/97bcaea4-3ed0-45d5-8c9d-445b497b6767_zps02shveii.jpg)

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: Volkodav on July 26, 2015, 07:50:39 PM

Forgive me for not paying attention, this is a new global war that breaks out in 1946 as opposed to WWII lasting longer, is it assuming a conflict between the victorious allies or rather WWII ended earlier with an armistice that subsequently broke down? 

Alternatively is it a realignment of allies following some major upheaval, i.e. Italy changed sides and it is conceivable that a successful assassination of Hitler, in one of the numerous 1943 attempts, could have seen Germany sue for peace but possibly Stalin refuses and continues to prosecute a war against a broken Germany in an attempt to annex much of Europe before the Western Allies could respond.  Then again Patton bragged that his 3rd army could drive the British back to Dunkirk, a highly impossible, somewhat ridiculous falling out and war between the UK and US or Europe and US?  Actually a friend of mine, and accomplished amateur historian, told me that many European colonial powers believed some US actions during the war were aimed at weakening and disbanding the old empires in Asia and replacing them with a US dominated pan-Pacific trading block, such feelings, justified or not could lead to war.

Another thought is the Soviet Union could prosecute there belated war with Japan attempting to seize the whole of Japan and former Japanese territories, from under the Americans noses, i.e. invading before the occupation forces have secured the Home Islands.  The Soviets assuming the Western Allies wouldn't fight but got it wrong and they did.

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 27, 2015, 02:20:52 AM

Wait for the rules...

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 27, 2015, 02:36:25 AM

Quote from: Volkodav on July 26, 2015, 07:50:39 PM

... this is a new global war that breaks out in 1946 as opposed to WWII lasting longer ...

Hi Volkodav, my intention is not limiting much the scope. So, only this statement will be included in rules. Which is evident because a WWII lasting longer would be WWII GB rather than WWIII 8) hehehe!

Anyway your contribution will be more than wellcome. :)

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: Spey Phantom on July 27, 2015, 04:16:15 PM

i have some idea as what to build for the GB, but unfortunatly i will have to pass on participation  :(
reason is that im moving out and with all the packing and hastle with moving, im gonna have very little time to build anything within the GB timeframe  ::)

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: kitnut617 on July 28, 2015, 09:45:13 AM

I'm considering joining this one with this below, it's my idea of a Super Hornet (De Havilland style) for about 1946 (say WWII has only been ended a few months before it all starts up again) Going to call it a Hornet FAW.1

The only thing glued so far is the larger fin/rudder, the parts for the extended canopy and casting of the 200 Gal drop tanks. Would this be acceptable for the GB ?

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 28, 2015, 09:10:02 PM

Yes, it is acceptable.

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 29, 2015, 02:31:26 AM

This GB is already making news...

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/WorldWar-III_zpsdu7ypal1.jpg)

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: The Big Gimper on July 29, 2015, 07:27:09 PM

I have the following ideas. Are they acceptable?

P-59 with swept wings
Gloster Meteor with swept wings
CF-100 Mark VI with F-89 AIM-4 missile pods and Iroquois 17 re-heat engines
P-56 with recce nose and J7W2 jet engine (started)
B-57 with B-66 wings and tail. This is based on the Lockheed proposal L-187 for the USN OS.111 requirement for a long range heavy attack plane for the 1948-49 USS United States CV-58

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: Volkodav on July 29, 2015, 10:40:17 PM

I'm thinking of a particular project that was proposed just before the start of the war but dropped because of lack of time, i.e. there was no way it would have bourn results before the end of the war.  With this GB the wiff could be it was started, suspended, restarted and then completed just as war clouds began to gather again.

Actually there are probably a number of projects that would fit that pattern.

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: finsrin on July 29, 2015, 10:51:14 PM

Quote from: The Big Gimper on July 29, 2015, 07:27:09 PM

I have the following ideas. Are they acceptable?

P-59 with swept wings
Gloster Meteor with swept wings
CF-100 Mark VI with F-89 AIM-4 missile pods and Iroquois 17 re-heat engines
P-56 with recce nose and J7W2 jet engine (started)
B-57 with B-66 wings and tail. This is based on the Lockheed proposal L-187 for the USN OS.111 requirement for a long range heavy attack plane for the 1948-49 USS United States CV-58

Nice  ---  I like all those build concepts :)

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: kitnut617 on July 30, 2015, 05:58:12 AM

Quote from: ysi_maniac on July 28, 2015, 09:10:02 PM

Yes, it is acceptable.

Thanks Carlos, I'll decide whether to enter the GB later, once the GB starts.  I want to finish the project if I do join in  ---  :-X

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 30, 2015, 09:50:13 AM

Quote from: The Big Gimper on July 29, 2015, 07:27:09 PM

P-59 with swept wings
Gloster Meteor with swept wings
CF-100 Mark VI with F-89 AIM-4 missile pods and Iroquois 17 re-heat engines
P-56 with recce nose and J7W2 jet engine (started)
B-57 with B-66 wings and tail. This is based on the Lockheed proposal L-187 for the USN OS.111 requirement for a long range heavy attack plane for the 1948-49 USS United States CV-58

Yes, acceptable.

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: The Big Gimper on July 30, 2015, 11:33:01 AM

Quote from: ysi_maniac on July 30, 2015, 09:50:13 AM

Quote from: The Big Gimper on July 29, 2015, 07:27:09 PM

P-59 with swept wings
Gloster Meteor with swept wings
CF-100 Mark VI with F-89 AIM-4 missile pods and Iroquois 17 re-heat engines
P-56 with recce nose and J7W2 jet engine (started)
B-57 with B-66 wings and tail. This is based on the Lockheed proposal L-187 for the USN OS.111 requirement for a long range heavy attack plane for the 1948-49 USS United States CV-58

Yes, acceptable.

Thank you Carlos. Hope to have some progress pictures this weekend.

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: kitnut617 on July 31, 2015, 05:38:14 PM

I forgot about this one, seems very apt for the GB.

This is just stuck together with tape and was just done so I could visualize the project in my mind better

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: ysi_maniac on August 01, 2015, 02:49:45 AM

This is acceptable (FYI)

I use to do these kind of tests, but do not forget making engine noise with your mouth  :P :P

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: kitnut617 on August 01, 2015, 06:34:46 AM

Right then, now I've got myself a bit of a dilemma  --- because now that I remembered that particular project, I remembered this one too

decisions, decisions, decisions -----  ::)

 

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: Volkodav on August 01, 2015, 05:56:20 PM

Mustang wings?

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: Volkodav on August 01, 2015, 06:03:46 PM

For once I have all the components I need, including one I actually accidently ordered when I was incompetently trying to workout the cost of postage on Amazon.  This idea has been brewing for a couple of years, since a discussion with AGRA, which sent me down a "what if" rabbit hole on the implications of a decision made in the early 20s impacting the structure of Australian forces in the late 50s.  Lets just see if I can get it done this time.

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: kitnut617 on August 01, 2015, 06:31:00 PM

Quote from: Volkodav on August 01, 2015, 05:56:20 PM

Mustang wings?

No, you could use P-51H wings but I'm using FJ1 wings as the wheel bays are in the right position for a tri-gear.  I discovered from a side view drawing of the XP-86, that the fin/rudder are almost an exact match to the F-82 fin/rudder (it's a bit taller but the shape is the same), so that is what I have put on it, albeit temporarily at the moment.  The wing root leading edge extension is really much bigger on the FJ1 than a P-51's and I was going to remove it for the XP-86 (early photos of the XFJ1 show it didn't have it either) and the wing is a dead ringer for the P-51H in plan view although in reality it had a different chord profile

Title: Re: W.W.III-Between the years of 1946-1955 GB
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 16, 2015, 04:20:38 AM

This GB is closed!

In a few days I will set the poll. Thanks a lot to all participants.