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Breguet 940, Br 941, Br 941S, Br 942, Br 945, and McDonnell 188 STOL Aircraft
« on: February 27, 2014, 11:07:47 AM »
Stumbled upon this rather interesting aircraft this evening while browsing through a book on French Military Aircraft and had never heard of it until now.  Very neat looking and innovative aircraft design. 

Wikipedia - Breguet 940, Br 941, Br 941S, Br 942, Br 945, and McDonnell 188 STOL Aircraft

Click on html or image to visit the Wikipedia page for further reading on this subject.



Short YouTube video about the Breguet/McDonnell 188 (no audio)
France's Breguet 188 STOL


Virtual Aircraft Museum - Breguet 941

Images and some 3 view drawings/plans of the Br 940, Br 941, and Br 941S at amis breguet
(Amis Breguet home page)

Greg Goebel's Air Vectors page on the C-17 and Airbus A400M contains some information on the Breguet 941S. 
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Re: Breguet 940, Br 941, Br 941S, Br 942, Br 945, and McDonnell 188 STOL Aircraft
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2014, 11:28:34 AM »
Always thought this thing had lots of potential. I worked up one timeline where the RAF bought them to support it's P.1154 fleet (instead of the AW.681), partly because of it's characteristics and partly as compensation to France for cancelling Concorde to fund something more useful.
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Re: Breguet 940, Br 941, Br 941S, Br 942, Br 945, and McDonnell 188 STOL Aircraft
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2014, 11:33:42 AM »
Quote from: Weaver on February 27, 2014, 11:28:34 AM
Always thought this thing had lots of potential. I worked up one timeline where the RAF bought them to support it's P.1154 fleet (instead of the AW.681), partly because of it's characteristics and partly as compensation to France for cancelling Concorde to fund something more useful.
With an 8 ton payload it was certainly just as capable as the DHC Buffalo and similar aircraft. 
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Re: Breguet 940, Br 941, Br 941S, Br 942, Br 945, and McDonnell 188 STOL Aircraft
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2014, 05:17:36 PM »
It was a good aircraft BUT it had two big problems - it used four engines and it was French.  Coming on the heels of France's withdrawal from NATO, it had little hope of winning contracts in the US.
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Re: Breguet 940, Br 941, Br 941S, Br 942, Br 945, and McDonnell 188 STOL Aircraft
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2014, 05:38:01 PM »
Any kits available?
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Re: Breguet 940, Br 941, Br 941S, Br 942, Br 945, and McDonnell 188 STOL Aircraft
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2014, 07:59:30 AM »
Quote from: GTX_Admin on February 27, 2014, 05:38:01 PM
Any kits available?

Not that I am aware of.   I have had plans for quite a while to build one and have assembled all the bits I believe I'll need to do it.  It's there on the list to do...  ;)
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Re: Breguet 940, Br 941, Br 941S, Br 942, Br 945, and McDonnell 188 STOL Aircraft
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2014, 09:35:05 AM »
McDonnell primarily pushed an airliner derivative, the 188E, with a new circular cross-section,
pressurized fuselage. They used a repainted Breguet as a concept demonstrator, but really
wanted customers to buy their redesigned model.

They also enlarged it into the Model 210 airliners.

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,6979.0.html

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1072.msg8933.html#msg8933

Image posted by Mark Nankivil in the first linked thread, matches Francillon's description
of the 188E in the McDD Putnam.





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Re: Breguet 940, Br 941, Br 941S, Br 942, Br 945, and McDonnell 188 STOL Aircraft
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2014, 10:16:09 PM »
One of the pics in the Secret Projects links is very interesting Jon, looks a lot like what I'm trying to do here. The idea is it's STOL airliner for rough field operations --
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Re: Breguet 940, Br 941, Br 941S, Br 942, Br 945, and McDonnell 188 STOL Aircraft
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2014, 02:35:02 AM »
If you want to see a 1/32th Breguet 941 build in scratch, there is one on the french forum Master194 :

http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=78929

In french, but pictures speak for themselves  :P



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Re: Breguet 940, Br 941, Br 941S, Br 942, Br 945, and McDonnell 188 STOL Aircraft
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2014, 02:59:03 AM »
Wow!
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