Beyond The Sprues
Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Scifi and Fantasy => Topic started by: Steve Blazo on December 06, 2017, 09:46:23 PM
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SLB Heavy Industries Griffin Hovertank
E100 side armor skirts, Leopard 2 turret, guns from Gepard AA
Yet to be named
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Interesting....
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Promising start!!! :smiley: :smiley:
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Generic question about hovertanks.
By what mechanism do they negotiate hillsides and going downhill/uphill on paved roads ?
One of those don't ask don't tell subjects ?
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Generic question about hovertanks.
By what mechanism do they negotiate hillsides and going downhill/uphill on paved roads ?
One of those don't ask don't tell subjects ?
Not sure, in the Hammers Slammers books they dig in and power thru, or the power increases to lift the front. Wonder how the LCAC's handle it ??
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Love those details, Steve! Especially the rack in back.
Brian da Basher
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Generic question about hovertanks.
By what mechanism do they negotiate hillsides and going downhill/uphill on paved roads ?
One of those don't ask don't tell subjects ?
Hovercraft, by their nature, are not great at negotiating steps or troughs and they are absolutely unable to climb any but the most gentle of hills. To start, the air cushion acts perpendicular to the surface, not the local gravity vector, so instead of lifting straight up, you actually get both pushed a bit back _and_ the lift vector is now less than the gravity vector, meaning you have to pump more air into the skirt. And then the engines have top provide some thrust up the hill because the weight of the vehicle wants to roll down the hill. And that's to just sit in one spot on a slope. To climb the slope you need additional power to accelerate up the slope. Enough power to actually overcome the mass up the slope angle. Which is a LOT.
Which is why hover craft are not used as combat vehicles today and, frankly, won't be used as combat vehicles in the future, no matter how cool Hammers Slammers are (and they are). Ground effect vehicles really don't work well when the ground isn't mostly flat.
Now, using engines to directly provide hover lift and not relying on ground effect, that would work. essentially you are flying all the time at whatever altitude you like.
But that's a different universe. Like Star Wars.
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Agree, no surprises there - Thank You
If that holds true even in BTS universe, it is then necessary to make technology advance to vectorable ground proximity resonance anti-gravity drive to negotiate slopes and irregular terrain. :D
Thatz for sure on a round earth.
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Agree, no surprises there - Thank You
If that holds true even in BTS universe, it is then necessary to make technology advance to vectorable ground proximity resonance anti-gravity drive to negotiate slopes and irregular terrain. :D
Thatz for sure on a round earth.
Love that hull shape :-* And bring on that vectorable anti-gravity drive :smiley:
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E100 sure lends itself well to the hovertank design!
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E100 sure lends itself well to the hovertank design!
Yes, it sure does. I have used the armor skirts before although the lines did not turn out as good as this time.
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Skirt armor and turret for this one
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And of course the turret on Bruno, the tracks and bogies even went on the Siberian Logging Tractor.
I will pick up the E-100 anytime I find it on sale or at a show.
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Well built well painted hovertanks. :smiley:
Be interesting to read analysis reports about tradeoffs regarding composition of skirts. Material type versus weight versus thickness versus projectile damage versus air pressure loss versus mobility impact. Am confident you made best engineering choices regarding these concerns.
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Great job Steve :smiley:
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Wonderful stuff, Steve! You get the weathering spot-on every time!
The Great Auk
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Thank you all.
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Update
Not sure if I like the turret, looks like something is still missing
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Looks good to me.
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Looking good, Steve. Love the details!
Brian da Basher
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Update
Not sure if I like the turret, looks like something is still missing
Commanders cupola or RWS? ???
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Commanders cupola or RWS? ???
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Yes, I'm thinking a MG for both Commander and loader
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Looks very good :) Keep up the good work!
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Best thing about hovertanks? Not having to paint a bunch of road wheels!
Looking good!
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Best thing about hovertanks? Not having to paint a bunch of road wheels!
Looking good!
Why do you think they invented hovertanks in the first place??? ;)
Sleek and cool design, Steve!
And remember the old saying...."No design could go wrong with a pair of Oerlikon" :)
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For those who have never read the series -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer%27s_Slammers
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Maybe a tracking radar at the rear?
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Beautiful!!!! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
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Decided not to have top mounted weapons, I think they would block the commanders 360 sight and make the vehicle to tall. Went with a coaxial MG. Any other suggestions would be considered and greatly appreciated. Need camo color suggestions also.
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You be a natural for hovertanks. What to say,,, has all the right polystyrene moves. :smiley:
Excellent handling of tube stock around bottom.
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Decided not to have top mounted weapons, I think they would block the commanders 360 sight and make the vehicle to tall. Went with a coaxial MG. Any other suggestions would be considered and greatly appreciated. Need camo color suggestions also.
They add height to modern vehicles, too, but are considered necessary, despite that big negative. However, ...
Where do you want it operating? Jungle = green / stripy greens & browns; Desert = tan / ochre / tan & ochre (or brown or both), possibly with some green blotches; Interstellar Colony = slate-grey / 2-or-more greys / slate-grey, mauve & dark-rust.
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I really like the low, sleek look (for a tank) that you're going with Steve and I think that helps keep attention on those menacing guns on the side as well as make the hover part more in focus too.
I keep imagining it in that cool NATO three tone camo of cold war vintage but others may have better suggestions.
Great stuff and will eagerly await the next update,
Brian da Basher
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I really like the rear end treatment Steve. Very fitting look for a hovertank.
I think a biome where a hovertank would really work - the Arctic. Soon to be a highly contested area, with China pushing hard to become a member of the Arctic nation states, and their tendency to do whatever the hell they want, perhaps a winter cam scheme would be appropriate?
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I think a biome where a hovertank would really work - the Arctic. Soon to be a highly contested area, with China pushing hard to become a member of the Arctic nation states, and their tendency to do whatever the hell they want, perhaps a winter cam scheme would be appropriate?
I was thinking of a white camo for the snow covered plains of Germany / Eastern Europe, with maybe some light gray zig-zags to break up the outline.
I keep imagining it in that cool NATO three tone camo of cold war vintage but others may have better suggestions.
Brian da Basher
BdB - I thought about a splinter NATO 3 tone camo, but my display case is all greens, tans and browns, it needs something different.
Had even thought of the same blue as the Siberian logging tractor with a white stripe, but that's pretty bright :o
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You could go with something completely no terrestrial. I once did a hover tank that, in addition to the expected light and medium greens, used a rust red/orange and a violet/purple as disruptives.
I sprayed the greens in the usual broad amoeba swaths but used my hole punch to make several masks in plastic stock with inter linked series of large and small holes and then sprayed the red and violet using those masks. In proportion the two colours were added much like the black and tan in the old MERDC scheme, thought the use of the masks made the effect much different.
The two colours were not garishly different in tone than the greens, so it really worked well as a scheme. Different, but it didn't scream at you. Very effective as a Hammer's Slammers off-world vehicle.
Paul
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Steve, again just all seems to make sense where things are. Really nice build
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Pre-shading -
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Base white
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That looks so right it's scary! :o
Love it! :-* 8)
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Wow! Now that it is finished it has taken on a very unique and purposeful look. The addition of dust covers to your recoil springs is a nice detail that really adds to this build.
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Steve, that turned out just wonderful! Using the E100 side skirts to create the hull of a hover tank has been on my Round Tuit list for years but Im glad to see you did it with such amazing results.
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Looks every bit a winner!
Love the weathering!
Brian da Basher
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Very well done!
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Super wow.. it just works and look right in every way
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Yes! This looks just like how a hover tank should! Nice one!
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very cool
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All done
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Thank you for looking, all comments welcome they only make me a better modeler. ;)
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That's fantastic, Steve!
Those colorful details really pop against that well-weathered white scheme.
Well done!
Brian da Basher
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Weathering takes it into a whole new realm of "That looks so right it's scary! :o "
Definitely love it! :-* 8)
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that's awesome! Probably one of the best hover tank designs I've seen in a long time. The weathering is spot on - not too heavy