Beyond The Sprues
Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on April 17, 2013, 05:31:20 PM
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Often over looked, let's here/see your Martin PBM Mariner Ideas and Inspiration.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Martin_PBM-5_Mariner_in_flight_c1945.jpeg)
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Why fly Martin Mariners when you can fly Consolidated Carolinas:
(http://up-ship.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/img_9152a.jpg)
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But what about sticking those gull wings and two piece tails on a conventional bomber fuselage like a Martin Marauder. The extra wing clearance could be used for a WWII gunship. Don't know where you'd stick the main gear but. Maybe B-52 style bicycle gear.
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... Maybe B-52 style bicycle gear.
As tested on the XB-26H 'Middle River Stump Jumper'.
http://www.lonesentry.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/test-martin-b-26H-marauder-bicycle-gear.jpg (http://www.lonesentry.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/test-martin-b-26H-marauder-bicycle-gear.jpg)
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... Maybe B-52 style bicycle gear.
As tested on the XB-26H 'Middle River Stump Jumper'.
[url]http://www.lonesentry.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/test-martin-b-26H-marauder-bicycle-gear.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.lonesentry.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/test-martin-b-26H-marauder-bicycle-gear.jpg[/url])
IIRC, that was to test the u/c gear for the XB-51 ---
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IIRC, that was to test the u/c gear for the XB-51 ---
B-51: now there's a plane that should have been built. The Canberra was designed for hi-hi-hi but the B-51 for lo-lo-lo and the two would have complemented each other perfectly and then the B-51 would have been great for low level strikes on North Vietnam.
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Stump Jumper test tesults were used in design of the XB-48, and the info was also used by Boeing
for the XB-47.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Martin_XB-48_taxiing.jpg)
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One gets saved in active inventory for whatever reason and gets used as a test bed for launching Harpoon Missiles.
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Does anyone else do a 1/72 scale Mariner kit? I have a Rareplanes one still in its bag and I've often thought of starting it, but it's pretty complex for a vacform.
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Minicraft.
Brand new tooling.
With a price in the Northern area of value....... :(
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Minicraft.
Brand new tooling.
With a price in the Northern area of value....... :(
Its too bad too, I really want one. Luckily Hobby Lobby has some with a %40 off coupon its not as bad, but I still havn't gone for it. SWMBO and I saw one up close and she loves them
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Note that kit is of the R-2800 powered PBM-5A amphibian, which was post-WWII and only built/used in
small numbers. The kit includes gear-well blanking plates so with a little work it can be built as a
PBM-5 flying boat, however, no beaching gear in the kit. Building the most common WWII type,
PBM-3, requires different engines, and the earlier dash numbers require smaller nacelles. Evidently
the biggest shape error is a too shallow rear fuselage, which, according to a couple of commentators, Rareplanes got right.
US list of $69.95 is steep, but it less than the price of the Mach 2 kit, and unlike the Mach 2 kit
the Minicraft kit is a typical modern, mainstream injection moulded kit. So at the end of the day
I guess it's a matter of how much your time is worth.
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Well I can't draw profiles for shit but it's a really neat looking shape.
I reackon i'd make a pretty neat looking conventional bomber.
Lose the wing floats and replace the lower float hull with something boxy - Liberator probably including the ball turret.
Add two more engines ........
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I can see I may be opening up the plastic bag of my Rareplanes Mariner when I get home :)
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Adding in Martin's other similar flying boat, which was designed as a successor to the PBM Mariner with more powerful engines, an improved hull, and a single vertical fin tail, the Martin P5M Marlin:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/SP-5B_VP-31_firing_HVAR_rockets.jpg)
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Potential updates to P5M:
- Give it 2 × Westinghouse J34-WE-34 turbojet engines in underwing pods akin to those used on the P2H Neptune from the same era
- Provide a turbo-prop update - say twin T56s
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Another pair of Marlin ideas:
- RAAF P5M alongside P-2H Neptunes thus staying in the flying boat game
- RNZAF P5M as a replacement for their Short Sunderlands
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The RCAF also flew them. ;)
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Potential updates to P5M:
- Give it 2 × Westinghouse J34-WE-34 turbojet engines in underwing pods akin to those used on the P2H Neptune from the same era
- Provide a turbo-prop update - say twin T56s
Yes, right on.....
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Potential updates to P5M:
- Give it 2 × Westinghouse J34-WE-34 turbojet engines in underwing pods akin to those used on the P2H Neptune from the same era
- Provide a turbo-prop update - say twin T56s
Sounds good, now get busy!
Yes, right on.....
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The RCAF also flew them. ;)
:smiley:
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Sounds good, now get busy!
I would but alas I don't have either a 1/48 Marlin or Neptune. I do have a 1/48 Mariner but that's got other plans...