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Allies 46 Inspiration
« on: January 30, 2018, 01:09:43 AM »
Lets see the weird and the wonderful from the winning side!  :smiley:



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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2018, 01:23:40 AM »
The immediate thought that comes to mind is everything happens as in reality except either the west attacks the east or vice versa, either directly or through client states.  End result, no axis powers or axis uber weapons, but rather the next generation of allied gear, maybe with a little German technology thrown in (unlikely due to development times)

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2018, 01:29:39 AM »
Makes one wonder if the Gloster E1/44 Ace would have gone into production, or a development of it, the Gloster CXP 1001

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2018, 02:33:40 AM »


All hail the God of Frustration!!!

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2018, 02:37:31 AM »
Focus upon what they are chasing:


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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2018, 02:57:16 AM »
Hawker P.1030
Supermarine Type 391

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2018, 03:02:50 AM »
Production B-39's over Germany?  Meteors, or other jet fighters, with the Metrovick axial-flow turbojets?  As experience builds, perhaps the proposed P-80D or P-80E design(s) go into production?
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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2018, 04:09:12 AM »
Malta Class carriers, Spearfish, Firecrest, Sturgeon bombers, Seamosquito, Sea Vampire

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2018, 04:44:51 AM »
8th and 15th AF were already tagged for conversion to B-32 Terminator/Dominator but the war ended meanwhile.

B-45 Tornado was slated to replace the B-25 and B-26, but with the end of the war, the project was put on backburner. Possibly Douglas B-42 Mixmaster or B-43 Jetmaster would have to have been adopted while the Tornado's teething problems were sorted out. Also, it's wartime, so competing offerings are all ordered instead of just one winner.

Would there have been a licenced Nene-powered (J42) F9F Panther rushed to production? In OTL, licenced Tay (J48) was used instead and development took longer.

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 06:42:05 AM »



The Marquardts, maybe, the craptastic pulse-jets?, no.
When Messerschmitt tested the pulse-jet powered Me 328 they found that the
engine operating cycle had very detrimental effects on both pilot and airframe.
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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2018, 07:10:22 AM »

B-45 Tornado was slated to replace the B-25 and B-26, but with the end of the war, the project was put on backburner. Possibly Douglas B-42 Mixmaster or B-43 Jetmaster would have to have been adopted while the Tornado's teething problems were sorted out. Also, it's wartime, so competing offerings are all ordered instead of just one winner.


These are exactly the ideas I've been mentally juggling.  I'm particularly excited by the idea of a B-42 or B-43 in Brazilian markings (lend-lease to them after the B-45 comes on line)!  Methinks Valom might be getting an uptick in business this week!
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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2018, 08:02:47 AM »

B-45 Tornado was slated to replace the B-25 and B-26, but with the end of the war, the project was put on backburner. Possibly Douglas B-42 Mixmaster or B-43 Jetmaster would have to have been adopted while the Tornado's teething problems were sorted out. Also, it's wartime, so competing offerings are all ordered instead of just one winner.


These are exactly the ideas I've been mentally juggling.  I'm particularly excited by the idea of a B-42 or B-43 in Brazilian markings (lend-lease to them after the B-45 comes on line)!  Methinks Valom might be getting an uptick in business this week!
B-42 or B-43. :smiley:  Never thought of it.  You are onto something.

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2018, 08:46:12 AM »
A couple of mine from a few years ago when our local club had a similar themed contest

P-80 USAAF color and marking. Airfix 1/72



B-49 operational scheme




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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 09:09:40 AM »
I'm in need of ideas.

Here's what I'm thinking:
PTO, USMC, prefer land or amphib.

I'm not looking to add to the stash, I currently have:

M4A2 Sherman
M51 Super Sherman
LVT-(A)1
M3 75mm GMC
M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer
M2A1 105mm Howitzer

If I go with aircraft I have:
F4U Corsair
F6F-5 Hellcat


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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 09:24:52 AM »
LVT-(A)1 with the M1A1 on deck or in an enlarged turret, and with spaced armor  (like "bed springs" - could just be fence material) to fend off early RPGs like the panzerfaust or the Japanese equivalent.

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2018, 09:29:26 AM »
Sharing this:
Without planning it to be Allies '46.  Just completed C-47H.  Painted in WW2 olive drab, it qualifies.
Point that unintentionally made to myself.  A transport plane can be Allies '46.

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2018, 05:18:40 PM »
M51 Super Sherman
This sounds like a reasonable answer to the increasing number of of E-100's, Maus's, Rattes and Monsters being encountered  ;D (Yes, I know, the 105 mm gun itself was a 1960's development...)

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2018, 09:42:09 PM »












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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2018, 08:39:15 PM »
BOAC did use Mosquitos. And other aircraft.

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2018, 04:07:28 AM »
Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but there's no way in hell either the B-35 or the B-36 could be
in service in the proposed period.
Particularly the B-35, with its absolutely fracked up prop transmission system. Not even
Hand-Wavium will fix that POS.
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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2018, 07:06:29 AM »
Unfortunately, the reality of the modelling is that the B-35 is available in 1/72 and the B-36 in 1/144, 1/72, and 1/48 as injection-moulded plastic kits, whereas the B-32 which would have been in service in large numbers to supplement the B-29 had the war gone on to 1946 (well, 1800 B-32 orders were cancelled at the end of the war vs. 5000 B-29 orders...) only exists as a resin model in 1/144 and 1/72 (barring some obscure vacuforms).

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2018, 09:48:41 AM »
Unfortunately, the reality of the modelling is that the B-35 is available in 1/72 and the B-36 in 1/144, 1/72, and 1/48 as injection-moulded plastic kits, whereas the B-32 which would have been in service in large numbers to supplement the B-29 had the war gone on to 1946 (well, 1800 B-32 orders were cancelled at the end of the war vs. 5000 B-29 orders...) only exists as a resin model in 1/144 and 1/72 (barring some obscure vacuforms).

I've got a 1/72 B-32 in multi-media made by Aviation Usk/Xotic Models
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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2018, 11:53:35 AM »
I wonder, with the demands for R3350s for the B-29s if the war had continued, might production B-32s have been fitted with W4320s similarly to how an early B-29 became the XB-39?  That could keep Allison in engine production even as other demands for their engines (P-40, P-39/P-63) dwindled.

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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2018, 02:01:05 PM »
What if MiG-15 without german contribution (swept wings)


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Re: Allies 46 Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2018, 03:38:40 PM »
Unfortunately, the reality of the modelling is that the B-35 is available in 1/72 and the B-36 in 1/144, 1/72, and 1/48 as injection-moulded plastic kits, whereas the B-32 which would have been in service in large numbers to supplement the B-29 had the war gone on to 1946 (well, 1800 B-32 orders were cancelled at the end of the war vs. 5000 B-29 orders...) only exists as a resin model in 1/144 and 1/72 (barring some obscure vacuforms).

I've got a 1/72 B-32 in multi-media made by Aviation Usk/Xotic Models

Is Anigrand B-32 kit.  Don't have one.  At least its out there !
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