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Title: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Cliffy B on January 08, 2013, 07:35:08 AM
Alright folks, get those light bulbs going!  Time to think outside the box!

Ships and boats count too so how about some riverine craft meant to play in the Med and/or Gulf?  Maybe you some old DD or other small FF or FAC gets painted up for a special mission?  Heck, maybe some old landing craft/ship is now serving as a ferry in the Med/Gulf and has been painted all white, has some massive sand filters, and is full of solar panels and other reflective surfaces to cut down on fuel?

Post Apocalyptic should offer a treasure trove for the Sci-Fi crowd.  How about some Mad Max style vehicles?  What about some desert racers and sail cars (anyone see Sahara?)?

Civie stuff too so how about some Baja racers or long range expeditionary vehicles turned into Spec Ops dune bugies?

Remember desert camo isn't just tan and brown.  White, black, red, yellow, blue, green, and gray can and have been worked in so don't feel constricted.

Please feel free to add to this and above all be creative!

-Mike
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 08, 2013, 09:35:47 AM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/photo-62.jpg)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 08, 2013, 10:13:09 AM
Alright, I know Lawrence of Arabia is considered to be the penultimate desert war film, but for my money, they don't get any better than this:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KZNb1svlu-0/T6_QEUrGNVI/AAAAAAAAAqI/2edwWrw0234/s1600/Sahara+Humphrey+Bogart.jpg)

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Cliffy B on January 08, 2013, 10:35:54 AM
Sahara 1943 and its 1990's remake with Belushi are AWESOME!!!!  The remake can be viewed as a colorized version of the original with the original actors just with different faces.

Here's some inspiration from DA.

(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/336/4/0/m1a2_abrams_by_markkarvon-d1y3e7y.jpg)
Source (http://markkarvon.deviantart.com/art/M1A2-Abrams-117731518)

(http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2010/243/3/8/buggy_by_notawizard-d2xpovx.jpg)
Source (http://notawizard.deviantart.com/art/BUGGY-177558333)

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/274/7/d/bsv__border_surveillance_vehicle__in_desert_planet_by_mancomecocos-d5ghf0u.jpg)
Source (http://mancomecocos.deviantart.com/art/BSV-Border-Surveillance-Vehicle-in-desert-planet-330017358)

(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs16/f/2007/174/0/d/Wind_Gypsies_by_DFisher.jpg)
Source (http://dfisher.deviantart.com/art/Wind-Gypsies-58234485)

That second one is begging for some armor plating and weapons!
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 08, 2013, 10:41:44 AM
(http://wakpaper.com/large/Deserts_wallpapers_407.jpg)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 08, 2013, 10:55:55 AM
And a recent what if profile of mine:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Heinkel%20He%20100/900px/GermanHe100D3.jpg)

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on January 08, 2013, 10:57:51 AM
Alright, I know Lawrence of Arabia is considered to be the penultimate desert war film, but for my money, they don't get any better than this:

([url]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KZNb1svlu-0/T6_QEUrGNVI/AAAAAAAAAqI/2edwWrw0234/s1600/Sahara+Humphrey+Bogart.jpg[/url])

Cheers,

Logan


Thatz two of us  :)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 09, 2013, 09:14:18 AM
(http://macross2.net/m3/forfansonly/talos/TSRLuftdesert1.png)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 09, 2013, 09:15:50 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cutangus/6651690923/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cutangus/6651690923/#)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 09, 2013, 09:44:19 AM
One of my EARLY ones...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/My%20Pictures/Gloster2.jpg)

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 09, 2013, 09:51:03 AM
Another early one:

(http://www.whatifmodelers.com/gallery/3505_21_10_08_4_55_41.jpg)

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 09, 2013, 10:03:46 AM
More oldies:

(http://www.whatifmodelers.com/gallery/3505_15_08_08_10_10_37.png)

(http://www.whatifmodelers.com/gallery/3505_24_09_08_3_04_54.png)

(http://www.whatifmodelers.com/gallery/3505_24_09_08_3_06_58.png)

(http://www.whatifmodelers.com/gallery/3505_12_10_08_1_11_02.png)

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Doom! on January 09, 2013, 10:48:24 AM
(http://www.doomisland2.com/images/profiles/RAAF_A-10_2.jpg)
(http://www.doomisland2.com/images/profiles/j-10_iran.jpg)
(http://www.doomisland2.com/images/profiles/yak-130_royal_moroccan_air_force.jpg)
(http://www.doomisland2.com/images/profiles/me262_desert_1.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: taiidantomcat on January 09, 2013, 11:45:21 AM
(http://www.solarnavigator.net/images/army_british_forces_camouflage_desert_infantry.jpg)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on January 09, 2013, 02:27:05 PM
If Lawrence of Arabia is considered the next-to-last desert war film, what then is considered the last desert war film?  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 09, 2013, 02:31:05 PM
http://youtu.be/N4vf8N6GpdM (http://youtu.be/N4vf8N6GpdM)

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 09, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
(http://www.airportjournals.com/Photos/0409/X/0409007_4.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5wNG8gA1s3w/T09_ApTU44I/AAAAAAAABPQ/03E7RyspGcA/s1600/phoenixlarge.jpg)
Title: Re: Rules for Desert Warfare
Post by: kitnut617 on January 10, 2013, 12:46:17 AM
You could do this scheme
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on January 10, 2013, 05:12:18 AM
One of the best sources of inspiration for 'civie' desert warfare is going on right now, Dakar 2013:

www.dakar.com (http://www.dakar.com)


(http://en.best-of-rallylive.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/bestofrallylive/actualites/rallye-dakar-les-forces-en-presence/105176-1-fre-FR/Rallye-Dakar-les-forces-en-presence_articlethumbnail.jpg)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jschmus on January 11, 2013, 05:59:02 AM
Some more from the Dakar race here:
http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/08/16417699-dakar-rally-drivers-race-across-perus-dunes-during-stage-four?lite (http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/08/16417699-dakar-rally-drivers-race-across-perus-dunes-during-stage-four?lite)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 15, 2013, 01:27:15 PM
Sahara 1943 and its 1990's remake with Belushi are AWESOME!!!!  The remake can be viewed as a colorized version of the original with the original actors just with different faces.

It's true, and it's a very true remake, but it's really not as good.  The acting isn't quite as good as the original, that's for sure.  Just look at the actors who were in the original you know why.  Also, you have to admit, Korda knew how to frame a shot better than the folks who made the remake.  Even the black and white film lent itself better to the sand in the 1943 film.  Unsurprisingly, the German equipment and uniforms in the remake were more authentic, but the American equipment is actually better in the original.  That should be expected, though, considering it was made with active US units at the time.

More important than any other factor, however, was the music.  Miklós Rózsa's original score was fantastic.  It was emotional, stirring--an absolute classic.  Among film composers, he was a master.  The remake's music was forgettable at best, amateurish at worst.

Again, it's a faithful remake that clearly honors the original, but I don't really think it surpasses it in any substantial way.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Weaver on January 16, 2013, 01:11:30 AM
(http://sciencefictionruminations.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/damnation-alley-vehicle1.jpeg)

 8)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Cliffy B on January 17, 2013, 03:55:03 AM
Was in Lowe's today and found these little parts while rooting through the many parts drawers in the hardware dept.

Grease Fittings (http://www.lowes.com/Search=grease+fittings?storeId=10151&langId=-1&catalogId=10051&N=0&newSearch=true&Ntt=grease+fittings)

They're nice and small and would work perfectly for Sci-Fi or armor builds.  They come in straight, 45 and 90 degree angles.  Tank and AFV gun barrels jumped to mind.  Prices were from $0.99 to $2-3.  Worth a look if you're in the neighborhood.

Also found out they have other "hobby parts" included brass and aluminum rods and sheets along with with wooden parts akin to dollhouse stuff but many wheels and other odds and ends.

The hardware store is a great place to find random little fittings that would work great on a model  8)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Cliffy B on January 19, 2013, 02:12:19 AM
Via Taiidan:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Gekko_1/calfedlibya.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Gekko_1/CalEgypt.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Gekko_1/somaliland.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Gekko_1/Iranian.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Gekko_1/CaliphateAirForce.jpg)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 19, 2013, 04:00:05 PM
Now that I got my first profile done, I'll post the rest of my previous desert profiles as inspiration for others!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Mi-24%20Hind/900px/Mi-24V_2.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Mi-24%20Hind/900px/SAAFHind1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Gripen/900px/TunisianSaabGripen1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Frogfoot/900px/LibyanFrogfoot1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Vought%20Viking/Reduced%20to%2033%20Percent/AussieViking2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Vought%20Viking/Reduced%20to%2033%20Percent/FrenchViking3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Vought%20Viking/Reduced%20to%2033%20Percent/FrenchViking5.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Vought%20Viking/Reduced%20to%2033%20Percent/GermanViking2a.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Vought%20Viking/Reduced%20to%2033%20Percent/GermanViking2b.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Vought%20Viking/Reduced%20to%2033%20Percent/IraqiViking1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Vought%20Viking/Reduced%20to%2033%20Percent/ItalianViking2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Vought%20Viking/Reduced%20to%2033%20Percent/PhilippineViking1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Vought%20Viking/Reduced%20to%2033%20Percent/SouthAfricanViking1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Heinkel%20He%2046/Reduced%20to%2033%20Percent/HatayHe46G1.jpg)

Finally, how about a couple of desert camo tanks for you armor modelers?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/M5JacksonProfiles_Page_2.png)

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: taiidantomcat on January 20, 2013, 07:26:23 AM
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/068/7/b/7b6f055e125e18045e2de22266557302-d3b9uq5.jpg)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on January 20, 2013, 07:43:57 AM
There is no way I can build these up so I'll just share the idea:
Israel gets the Rafale
Egypt gets the Chengdu J-10
They scrap in the Sinai.
When finished, conflict in the area continues still.   

Revell's 1/48 beauty of a kit
Bronco's 1/48 J-10S or Trumpeter's J-10AY

Edit:  As usual I claim no exclusivity to the idea; if someone wants to run with the idea or any variant thereof, please feel welcome to so do.   

Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 20, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
Maybe of some use for some:  http://desertwar.net/ (http://desertwar.net/)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ChernayaAkula on January 20, 2013, 07:30:17 PM
That Khemedi MiG-21 looks the business!  :)
I would have thought they'd continue to buy British, though. Vampires, Hunters, Jaguars, or such. And eventually Tornadoes and Typhoons.
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: taiidantomcat on January 21, 2013, 12:52:35 AM
(http://www.funimation.com/sites/default/files/desert-punk--big--1.jpg)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: lauhof52 on February 15, 2013, 04:54:08 PM
When the Nazis invaded Russia in June 1941 the Russian aircraft companies were anxious to get help and assistance to produce new planes to counterattack the enemy. While Vought was working in 1941 with the F3U, based on material from the IAR-Engineers, Lavochkin-technicians seeked contact with Vought for help to build a new airplane. In a joint-venture structure Vought people went immediately to Russia and helped to set up a new line for the F3U, it became the F3UL! In the autumn of 1941 the first planes rolledout from the factory.
When Roosevelt undertook a great helping plan for Europe and its Allies, Vought started to set up a line in the US for the F3UL, together with Lavochkin it started to deliver in the beginning of 1942 new F3UL-1's. They were shipped in a convoy to Russia, but due to the Wolfpack attacks, one of the convoys was dispersed and the F3UL's stranded in England. The RAF used some of them for squadrons in the desert-war against the Africa Korps. Here is one from 92 sqn. It is the one i send to the Desert warefare.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1No92sqnRAF_zps9c039f44.jpg)

regards
Lauhof

The whole idea for this new line started when i saw a linedrawing from DEF from an IAR-80 with a lavochkin engine.
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 15, 2013, 06:17:21 PM
Is this one an entry or just inspiration for others?
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: taiidantomcat on February 17, 2013, 09:29:26 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Iraqi_Model_214ST_SuperTransport_helicopter%2C_1991.JPEG)
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Cliffy B on February 17, 2013, 09:33:27 AM
Looks like a Russian helo and a Huey had a kid....weird... but I kinda like it.  Info please!
Title: Re: Desert Warfare Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: taiidantomcat on February 17, 2013, 09:37:22 AM
Bell 214ST  :) I like the weathering