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Current and Finished Projects => Profiles and Pixels => Topic started by: JP Vieira on December 11, 2011, 11:40:42 PM
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Hello
First of all thanks to Greg and all other that contributed to make this forum a reality.
I will post my work in this Thread.
I will start with new works and, perhaps in the future, post some old works (until then you can check them at my what-if site at http://what-if-world.webs.com/index.htm (http://what-if-world.webs.com/index.htm).
Here is the first
In the late 1960's and early 1970's france decided to modernise its air force; the adopted strategy was to field small numbers of large twin-engine interceptors alongside more numerous single-engine aircraft.
The larger aircraft was a twin-fin, twin-engine interceptor, the Dassault Orage
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/DassaultOrageIIIcopy.jpg)
The smaller aircraft was the Dassault Eclipse
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/DassaultEclipse.jpg)
Both aircraft were also exported to many countries.
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Excellent work, Mr Vieira! I especially like the neat angle of the Eclipse. Fitting you'd post that as we've just had our last full luner eclipse for the next couple of years last night.
Brian da Basher
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I love the Orage! Looks to me like a fusion of F-15, F-104 and... something else I can't quite place. Aha, your creativity! :D
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Thanks for the comments!
Actually (you may not believe it) but the starting point for the design of the Orage was the Mirage IV... It was so transformed that it resembles nothing of the original IV.
I thought that Eclipse was a fitting name for a Dassault aircraft...
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Hello
The Orage was developed in a series of versions: one of those was the Orage II, a twin-seat, strike version. This aircraft was used by the Armee de l'Air and exported to some countries, namely Egypt
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/DassaultOrageEgipt.jpg)
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Very exciting to see one of my favorite profilers here.
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Great stuff!
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JP, glad your here, I really enjoy your work.
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I love your twin-fin Mirage (Orage II), JP... :)
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Thanks a lot for all your comments!
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And What-if the Tornado was designed in the 1950's, early 60's...?
More of a subtle differences, but I think it looks well
Here is the Tornado of a earlier generation:
RAF
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/TornadoFcopy.jpg)
RN
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/TornadoRNcopy.jpg)
Sweden
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/TornadoSWcopy.jpg)
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WOW those 'Fins' are ace!!!
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Thanks!
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What-If the mistel concept was continue to be used later...?
Here is a Korean War Mistel (F-86 / F-86)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-86Fmistelcopy.jpg)
and a vietnam one (F-4/ B-57)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/USAFMistelcopy.jpg)
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That "namtoe" could be even remote controlled by Phantom WSO... What about something more subtle? like F-104 rebuild by Germans during Cold War as a missle, and put under... other Starfighter? With under-wing fuel tanks, and single nuke that can be fitted into drone nose, what range that "Mistel" could have? And naext give it ZELL pack for more fun :)
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I like that Swedish one!
And now I have to admit: I have to giggle every time I see a Swedish plane with the "FARA" warning... see, my parents are from Hungary, I speak Hungarian, and so that Swedish warning is to me like, indicating the blatantly obvious: an arrow pointing backwards, saying "its rear" ("far" is "rear" in Hungarian, the "-a" is the third person singular possessive marker - i.e. the arrow is telling you which way the airplane's rear is...) :P
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Awesome Mistels!
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Wow!!!
I love the Swedish one, but that Mistel is just :in-love:
Regards,
Greg
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Thanks all for your comments :)
Maybe some more mistels in the future...
For now I will post some work I have done when I was between foruns :D
Here is the Curtiss SpitHawk, a derivate of the Curtiss 75 equiped with a Merlin engine (no it is not a P-40F :D )
It was used mainly in the Mediterranean TO and exported to the Soviet Union.
Here are two examples of Soviet aircraft
Summer Camo
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Curtisss75Xcopy.jpg)
Winter Camo
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Curtisss75Xinvercopy.jpg)
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Here is another work done ibf (in between foruns)
The Spitfire MK.Vw was an experiment done in 1945; it married a Spitfire MK.Vb airframe to the capture engined of one FW-190D-9
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/SpitfireFWcopy.jpg)
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And another…
The Curtiss 77 was developed to meet specific French requirements of a Hawk 75 with a more powerful engine, more firepower and other improvements.
None were delivered before the fall of France and all were subsequently delivered to the free French forces.
They were used in many theaters of operations and were praised by its pilots for their reliability and toughness
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/curtiss77.jpg)
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Love the Spithawks!!! (http://www.doomisland2.com/images/avatars/wub1.gif)
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That Hawk 77 has my admiration! Most excellent and definitely a "should've been" in my book!
Brian da Basher
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The Spithawks look, well............................right. Nice job Sir.
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Thanks to all for your comments! :)
Welcome José (bem-vindo) :)
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The Spit with radial cooling is my favourite of this new batch. Thanks. :)
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Typical :dizzy: I want to build all of those :want:
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Thanks for the comments :)
Typical :dizzy: I want to build all of those :want:
I really want to see them in plastic ... :)
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Hello
In the late 60’s and early 70’s there was a trend amongst Western air forces to procure and field new fighters: many western air forces wanted a smaller number of squadrons equipped with large, two-engine interceptor, supported by large number of squadrons of multi-role, single-engine fighters.
That trend was express in the UK by two new designs: the Hawker Siddeley Osprey and the BAC Storm. The latter one was a two-engine interceptor that was later developed also as a strike aircraft.
Here is one of RAF’s BAC Storm
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/BacStormIIRAFcopy.jpg)
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Nice, looking like a half breed of F-15 and Mirage (for air intakes)
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Wow the Storm is mint!!! :in-love:
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Thanks! Glad you like the Storm; I hope you will enjoy also the Osprey (perhaps comming next...)
The starting point for the design of the BAC Storm was the (also BAC) TSR-2 (intakes, fin, tail and partially the wing - albeit modified).
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The Hawker-Siddeley (later BAe) Osprey was a single-engine, multi-role aircraft.
It was used by many squadrons of the RAF and also widely exported.
It constituted the main front-line aircraft of the RAF, alongside the V/STOL H-S Falcon.
Here is a RAF aircraft (inset is the same aircraft during Operation Granby)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HSOspreymonta2.jpg)
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Yes, British aeronautic industry was still alive in the 1970s... this is the (pleasant) proof.
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That is nice. :in-love:
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Thanks :)
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Hello
I decided to colorize some old b&w 3 views I created.
Here is one of them...
The YaKa-50 was a collaborative venture between the Yakovlev and Kamov design bureau.
The YaKa-50 (NATO reporting name Hocus) was a much feared helicopter-hunter and reconnaissance aircraft featuring much improved performance over the helicopters fielded by western forces.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/YaKa-50perfilcopy.jpg)
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Wicked!!
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That is frikken awesome. :want: What bits did you use to draw that? Or is it original? :want: :in-love:
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:) Interesting thanks (I had forgotten the black and white version, sorry...)
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Now that is a sexy copter!!! :want:
Also like the Storm and German powered Spitfire very much.
That is frikken awesome. :want: What bits did you use to draw that? Or is it original? :want: :in-love:
Let me guess... Ka-50 fuselage with a Yak-130D wings, forward and lower fuselage???
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Hello
Thanks for the comments.
This one is in fact a mixt between an Yak-130 and a Ka-50.
Here is another color profile and a 3 view drawing of it
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/YaKa-50cub3.jpg)
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Very nice JP thanks for that. I will keep an eye out for the bits to build that. :want:
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That Osprey looks like LWF perfection. Almost like the combination of the best parts of an F/A-18 and a F-16.
Cheers,
Logan
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I love the new one too
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Hi JP,glad to see you here.
I really like your new '' conversion '' :in-love:...still,I think it would sound better KA-YA,a matter of taste.
Regards,Alex
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still,I think it would sound better KA-YA,a matter of taste.
Yes, a matter of taste: in French, YaKa is more funny, because in slang "y'a qu'à..." (pronounced yaka) means "it's easy, simply doing..." (for instance: y'a qu'à inventer = it is easy, simply inventing). Good word! (for my taste)
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Thanks for your comments :)
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Hello
Here are other colour profiles of a older design: a vertical take-off and landing turboprop A-10.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/VA-10T.jpg)
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Erm, isn't that going to find itself going backwards once it converts to level flight?
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Why...?
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maybe because in vertical mode it have "pull propeller", and in horizontal: "push propeller". Also I don't think that "big circles" are good ide in attack plane: imagine two big target rings, all that damage due small arms, and machine guns, ricoshetes all over plane...
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OUTSTANDING!!!!
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Wow... Some really great ideas in this gallery. The Mistels are fantastic, the Yak-130/Ka-50 combo is excellent too. The various Curtisses (particularly the Soviet ones) are extremely pleasant.
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still,I think it would sound better KA-YA,a matter of taste.
Yes, a matter of taste: in French, YaKa is more funny, because in slang "y'a qu'à..." (pronounced yaka) means "it's easy, simply doing..." (for instance: y'a qu'à inventer = it is easy, simply inventing). Good word! (for my taste)
I would personally translate "Y a qu'à..." (or in better French: "Il n'y a qu'à...") by "All it takes is...".
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JP, wonderful VTOL A-10... :D
Stéphane, thanks for the help in translating.
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Thanks for the comments :)
Althought some more thought is needed, I still think it is a good starting idea.
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And keeping with VTOL why not a VTOL version of the E-2.
Here is the Grumman/ Boeing VE-12; this is a version for the Brazilian Navy, the E-4 Guardião
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/E-10cBrcopy.jpg)
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Hello
The USAF needed a new aircraft that was able to perform the role of tactical surveillance; that new aircraft need to be able to defend itself from both ground and aerial threats and also to perform the first strike upon the targets discovered.
The answer was the AO-10 Shrike.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AOV-10bccopy.jpg)
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Improved Bronco? With jets and bubble canopy? Nice twin-boomer! If I were general, I would buy it!
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And keeping with VTOL why not a VTOL version of the E-2.
Here is the Grumman/ Boeing VE-12; this is a version for the Brazilian Navy, the E-4 Guardião
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/E-10cBrcopy.jpg[/url])
Innovative!
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Oh that is very smart looking ;)
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Combining the OV-10 with the A-10 is a very good idea.
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That AO-10 Shrike is brilliant.
Also like the VTOL A-10, regardless wether it will work or not... just looks so cool!
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Hello
The USAF needed a new aircraft that was able to perform the role of tactical surveillance; that new aircraft need to be able to defend itself from both ground and aerial threats and also to perform the first strike upon the targets discovered.
The answer was the AO-10 Shrike.
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AOV-10bccopy.jpg[/url])
Freakin' brilliant, Mr Vieira!!!
Brian da Basher
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Many thanks for your comments :)
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Hope you all like a new version of the A-10: the AV-10 Thunder
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AV-10Dcopy.jpg)
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And then you come back and top yourself by adding those great full-color stars-and-bars and USMC markings! Excellent!
Brian da Basher
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And another…
The Curtiss 77 was developed to meet specific French requirements of a Hawk 75 with a more powerful engine, more firepower and other improvements.
None were delivered before the fall of France and all were subsequently delivered to the free French forces.
They were used in many theaters of operations and were praised by its pilots for their reliability and toughness
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/curtiss77.jpg[/url])
That looks gorgeous, though the nose looks way too long unless there's a R4360 in there. I could see an uprated Hawk 75 with P-40E wings and a R2600 or R2800 in the nose as being an eminently practical development.
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New stuff, and looks so good!
Well done JP !
Alex
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Hope you all like a new version of the A-10: the AV-10 Thunder
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AV-10Dcopy.jpg[/url])
Are you kidding? It is so awesome, you must attempt to build it!!! :-*
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WOW THAT AV-10 THUNDER IS MINT!!!! 8)
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Many thanks for your comments :)
I would love to see it build up in plastic form; if someone wants to do it, go for it...
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And here is another colour profile of the AV-10, one of the export versions.
The New Zealand Air Force received, in 1978, 20 aircraft to form a dedicated ground attack and support unit for the ground forces (Army, Marines, etc):
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ThunderGR.jpg)
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USMC Thunder next?
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USMC Thunder next?
Sure... You just need to look a bit further up: the USMC Thunder profile is there. :)
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Hello
In order to improve flight stability, increased payload and safety the US Government instructed Lockheed to redesign its AH-56 helicopter and adopt a coaxial main rotor while still maintaining the rear-mounted propeller.
Lockheed proceeded with the desired modifications and added more powerful engines and more sophisticated avionics.
The end result was the AH-57 Cheyenne; the compound helicopter was used both in the US military and abroad
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AH-57todoscopy.jpg)
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Yes please...
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I love the idea of a coaxial-rotor Cheyenne... but wouldn't the tail rotor be useless now that torque is no longer a problem??
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Thanks for the comments! :)
Stephane: that is not a tail rotor; it is the original rear-mounted propeler
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Hello
The US Army wanted a new helicopter to replace the Huey.
One of the main requirements was for increased speed and survivability and the possibility of this utility helicopter to use weapons.
The winning proposal was form Sikorsky with the S-66 Blackhawk.
The new helicopter, designated AUH-66 Blackhawk, featured a rigid main and tail rotors and also a rear mounted propeller.
The helicopter was used by the US military and exported.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AUH-67BlackHawk.jpg)
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Hello
The amphibious version of the V-22 Osprey was used both by civilian protection agencies (namely in firefighting roles) and by military forces (either by regular or special forces)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AFV-22C.jpg)
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Cool! I presume vertical-only water landings? ;)
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I love this V-22 as firefighting hero... :-*
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Ooh those are nice, i love the Cheyanne and Blackhawk, nice looking helicopters and definately before their time, the Lockheed design was a complex beast and unfortunately fell foul of the companies woes at that time but im sure had it entered service it would stil be flying today. The Blackhawk iv always thought of as a sortv delicate Hind, Iran expressed an interest before the type was cancelled (in hindsight maybe the H.60 family was the better option tho for this one?)
Your float hulled Osprey really cries out for someone to make in plastic, some styrene for a keel and side walls and Milliput for the planing bottom should just bout do the main part of it (def easier then trying to splice a Canadair hull or similar!) :)
cheers, Joe
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Mmmmm.... :-*
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JP, the amphibious ospreys look great!
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The amphibious V-22 Osprey is a brilliant idea! 8)
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Amphib V-22? Where is my CL-415? :icon_ninja:
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Thanks for all the comments.
It would be great to see someone make it in plastic :)
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Hello
Here are some more AFV-22 variants:
Rescue
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AFV-22Rsc.jpg)
and Maritime Patrol
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AFV-22MPA.jpg)
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Hello
Here is one AFV-22 in Finnish Frontier Guard service as requested by Joe.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AFV-22FN.jpg)
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8) many thanks, i'l have to add that to my 'to build' pile now, a nice variation from the standard Osprey
it would go nicely with an example i completed as a Finnish Air Force bird based upon one of John's profiles, sigh so much modelling inspiration so few modelling hours during work time ;D
cheers, Joe
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Oh, those mistels are very cool. How about a Sabre on top of a weary F-80?
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Thanks for the commnets
Joe: hope to see it in plastic soon :)
Apophenia: more mistels perhaps in the near future; thanks that is a good idea for another Mistel
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Hello
Early on the Su-25 program it was decided that the aircraft should have a VSTOL capability. This originated a major re-design of the aircraft.
The Su-25 was used by both the air force and Navy of the USSR and exported to some of its allies.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Su-25Vstol.jpg)
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A winner!
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Su-25 VSTOL. Nice! Is this jumpy Frogfoot single-engined or twin? (The thought of interconnected pipes intrigues.)
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Olá JP!
Love the AFV-22 in Finnish Frontier Guard.
The 'Jumping Frog' idea is very interesting, I presume its twin engined!?
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Su-25 VSTOL. Nice! Is this jumpy Frogfoot single-engined or twin? (The thought of interconnected pipes intrigues.)
I'd hazard a guess, going by the size of the intakes relative to those of the standard Su-25, that this is a single-engined machine. Now, I could see a twin-engined stol variant with swiveling jet pipes similar to those trialed on early Intruders.
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Hello
Many thanks for your comments.
The VSTOL Su-25 is single engined; it uses a similar engine arrangment as seen in the Harrier.
The Su-25 was the winner of a fly-of competition against the Yak-39; this particular aircraft used a engine configuration similar to the Yak-38 test aircraft.
Below we can see both the land and naval versions of the loosing Yak-39.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/YakSu-55.jpg)
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Incredible JP! Wonderful imagination 8)
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Thanks :)
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Hello
Inspired by the great GrassSnake made by Jose http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=157.120 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=157.120)
I decided to make some attack versions of early helicopters.
Here is the first:
In the late 1940’s, the US Army commissioned a dedicated attack version of the Sikorsky H-5; the aircraft was available early on in the Korean War and was used to great effect, supporting the ground units.
Although only armed with fixed cannons (fuselage) and rocket and machine gun pods (on the wings), the AH-3 Stinger was a useful aircraft to the ground war.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/SikRA-1copy.jpg)
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Nice.
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I agree, very neat!
Cheers,
Logan
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Very cool! Now all you need is Belcher Bits' 1/48 Dragonfly ;)
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Hello
Many thanks for your comments.
The VSTOL Su-25 is single engined; it uses a similar engine arrangment as seen in the Harrier.
The Su-25 was the winner of a fly-of competition against the Yak-39; this particular aircraft used a engine configuration similar to the Yak-38 test aircraft.
The bottom one isn't too far off from what the books describe as the Yak-39 design study, though it did have centerbodies for the intakes like the various Mirages and the F-104. According to the Red Star book on Yak's vstol efforts, it also used the rear fuselage of the Yak-38U and an extended forward fuselage with three lift engines.
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Thank you all for your comments :)
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Hello
Many thanks for your comments.
The VSTOL Su-25 is single engined; it uses a similar engine arrangment as seen in the Harrier.
The Su-25 was the winner of a fly-of competition against the Yak-39; this particular aircraft used a engine configuration similar to the Yak-38 test aircraft.
The bottom one isn't too far off from what the books describe as the Yak-39 design study, though it did have centerbodies for the intakes like the various Mirages and the F-104. According to the Red Star book on Yak's vstol efforts, it also used the rear fuselage of the Yak-38U and an extended forward fuselage with three lift engines.
That is very interesting; can you provide some images of that prototype...?
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Hello
The Bristol Bulldog (a dedicated attack version of the Sycamore) was one of the first armed helicopters of the Royal Army and one of the first, worldwide, to use air to ground missiles in the anti-armor missions.
The pilot/mission commander was in the upper seat and the gunner/ missile operator in the glass nose of the helicopter.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/BristolBulldog.jpg)
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Funny old style for tandem-post helicopter...
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I don't normally go for helicopters but that Bristol is a cracker!
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Nice helicopters JP! ;)
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Hello
Many thanks for your comments.
The VSTOL Su-25 is single engined; it uses a similar engine arrangment as seen in the Harrier.
The Su-25 was the winner of a fly-of competition against the Yak-39; this particular aircraft used a engine configuration similar to the Yak-38 test aircraft.
The bottom one isn't too far off from what the books describe as the Yak-39 design study, though it did have centerbodies for the intakes like the various Mirages and the F-104. According to the Red Star book on Yak's vstol efforts, it also used the rear fuselage of the Yak-38U and an extended forward fuselage with three lift engines.
That is very interesting; can you provide some images of that prototype...?
All I have are the description in the book, no pictures. It's on my list of things to acquire the raw materials for.
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Thanks for all your comments
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Hello
Many thanks for your comments.
The VSTOL Su-25 is single engined; it uses a similar engine arrangment as seen in the Harrier.
The Su-25 was the winner of a fly-of competition against the Yak-39; this particular aircraft used a engine configuration similar to the Yak-38 test aircraft.
The bottom one isn't too far off from what the books describe as the Yak-39 design study, though it did have centerbodies for the intakes like the various Mirages and the F-104. According to the Red Star book on Yak's vstol efforts, it also used the rear fuselage of the Yak-38U and an extended forward fuselage with three lift engines.
That is very interesting; can you provide some images of that prototype...?
All I have are the description in the book, no pictures. It's on my list of things to acquire the raw materials for.
Thank you. It would be great to see it.
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Hello
The Soviet Union also fielded attack helicopters in the 1950’s.
One of the first Soviet armed helicopters was a modified Mil Mi-1 Hare.
The new variant (designated Hart by NATO) featured a more powerful engine and besides the new nose, was almost similar in appearance to the basic Mi-1 Hare. This variant of the Hare had a new, elongated and narrower nose featuring a small (very small ;) ) post for a missile operator, while in the main cabin stood the pilot and co-pilot.
The Hart was exported to almost all Warsaw Pact members and some Middle East allies.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MilMi-1PHart.jpg)
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Sweet! Putting DDR markings on it was a stroke of genius!
Brian da Basher
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What Brian said!
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Really nice redesign, very believable too 8)
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Nifty stuff :).REALLY like the Stinger :-*
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Many thanks for your comments.
I really enjoyed making these early attack helicopters, and I think I will make some more in the near future.
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Hello
What-if the jet engine was available at different timelines…?
In these scenarios, practical jet engines are available either 20 years earlier (mid to late 1920’s) or 20 years later (mid to late 1960’s).
In these scenarios, all other aeronautical technologies are available at the same time as our timeline.
In such, we will see, for instance, in the first scenario, biplane jet fighters (in the late 1920’s and 1930’s) and, in the second scenario, swept-wing and missile armed piston-engine fighters in the late 1950’s and 1960’s.
Here is the first one, a biplane jet fighter of the RAF (early 1930’s); this aircraft, the hawker Fury, was used by fighter command and also exported to some countries.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JetFurry2copy.jpg)
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Nice jet biplane, thanks! (for the smile you gave me)
So... the Polish Belphegor had a forefather, as jet biplane - alas this old one was not twin-boom (but funny anyway). Funny Fury, yes.
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Forget a real turbojet, what about either a thermojet or even something such as a development of the Coanda-1910:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Coanda_1910.gif)
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Greg: the point in doing this was to see what happened if the jet engine was developed either 20 years ealier or 20 years latter.
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Hello
And what-if the jet engine was developed only 20 years latter...?
Here is one the latest piston-engined fighter: the BAc Lightning F.MK6
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6propcopy.jpg)
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Wow! A brand new old plane!
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Hello
Greg: the point in doing this was to see what happened if the jet engine was developed either 20 years ealier or 20 years latter.
Fair enough - I tend to think that airframe design would adapt to match the engine design...maybe.
Love the Piston Lightning. Can only imagine the engine size.
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How about a PW R-4360-51 VDT " Variable Discharge Turbine" 4,300 hp with contra-props?
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How about a PW R-4360-51 VDT " Variable Discharge Turbine" 4,300 hp with contra-props?
No, that's too small. How about a Lycoming R7755 rated at over 5000 hp with or without contraprops (if the propeller design can do without it - twist to the blades like props on the Bf109 and Fw190 and a five-bladed prop, not having contraprops makes for a more robust and simpler gearbox).
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Hello
And what-if the jet engine was developed only 20 years latter...?
Here is one the latest piston-engined fighter: the BAc Lightning F.MK6
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6propcopy.jpg[/url])
Oh, I quite like it, but shouldn't you have intakes in front of your radiator(s) exhausting around the prop(s) rather than cooling gills; this looks like a reversed cooling flow without the scoops and I doubt the aerodynamics would support it.
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Maybe it uses a form of evaporative cooling?
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How about a PW R-4360-51 VDT " Variable Discharge Turbine" 4,300 hp with contra-props?
No, that's too small. How about a Lycoming R7755 rated at over 5000 hp with or without contraprops (if the propeller design can do without it - twist to the blades like props on the Bf109 and Fw190 and a five-bladed prop, not having contraprops makes for a more robust and simpler gearbox).
I have never heard of the R7755. I'll have to look it up next time I get to DC and the NASM Annex.
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Wikipedia has a good article on it. It would have an advantage for this application in that it's liquid-cooled, not air-cooled.
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Lycoming XR-7755 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycoming_XR-7755)
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Lycoming_XR-7755-3.jpg/428px-Lycoming_XR-7755-3.jpg)
"No, just change the oil and replace the spark plugs."
"Very good, sir, you can pick up in March."
Cheers,
Logan
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I really like your jet-powered Fury, JP! That's some really great imaginative thinking!
Brian da Basher
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Many thanks for all the comments.
How realistic would an aircraft like the piston-engined Lightning? If it had an engine like that (5000 hp) what would be its performance...?
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Hello
Continuing with one of the scenarios (the emergence of jet engines earlier) how would the Battle of Britain be fought by opposing jet fighters...?
here is one possibility: jet-powered Spitfires vs Bf.109
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/battlebritainjets.jpg)
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Wonderful! Great imagination! Thanks a lot! :-*
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Nice concept on the BoB fighters. I think the location of the tailpipe will insure the spit driver of never having frozen feet. He will have a semi recumbent seat, which will be found like the modern seats to allow more G's in maneuver.
Fabric rudders replaced by metal.
A jet Defiant might be interesting. And a Jet Do-17 would be fabulous !
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Again,nice work,I really like your concepts !
Alex
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Lovin' your thinking!!! :-*
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Effin brilliant is what that is :) :-*
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Gorgeous work!! I suspect, though, that the weight and balance calculations on that Messerschmitt are going to be a right pain with the engine back there.
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Many thanks for your comments!
I will try to do as many jet versions for BoB and WWII as possible...
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For now something a little different...
The Mil Mi-27 (NATO codename Holm) was an amphibious version of the Mi-24.
This helicopter featured the hull of the Mi-14 Haze and a rear ramp allowing for rapid insertion /extraction of amphibious forces.
The Helicopter could also provide air support to those infantry forces, because it retained the armament capability of the Mi-24
It was used by the naval infantry of the USSR and by Special Forces of many Warsaw pact countries.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Mi-27Holmcopy.jpg)
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Very cool Mi.24 redesign, looks plausible too, hmm another one that would work well in plastic too methinks, Sea King hull, Mi.8 boom? 8)
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Thanks for the comments.
Here is the general distribution of different helicopters used in creating the Mi-27.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Mi-27descopy.jpg)
It would be great to see it in plastic ... ;)
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Great work on the Mi-27!
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Cool!
I did something similar ages ago - your's looks much better though:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/SeaHind.jpg)
I guess great mind's think alike...or fools never differ! ;)
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Continuing with one of the scenarios (the emergence of jet engines earlier) how would the Battle of Britain be fought by opposing jet fighters...?
here is one possibility: jet-powered Spitfires vs Bf.109
Thanks JP, your wonderful jet-warbirds inspired me similar Mustangs:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_P-51TR6_zzu.jpg)
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Thanks for the repplies and comments.
The anphibious Mi-24 would look great in plastic; It would be great if someone would it ;)
Greg: your anphibious Mi-24 looks very good.
Tophe: Great designs; I eventully plan to do also a WWII Jet Mustang.
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Continuing with the WWII Jets, I plan to do several designs; Luftwaffe bombers will most surely will be done as several other aircraft (including I think the BP Defiant as suggested by Russ); I am thinking about different engine placements for all those different aircraft.
For now I give you a Jet Stuka (shortly some French Jets…)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JetStukacopy.jpg)
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Here are some of the fighters used by France in 1940: The Dewoitine D-520 and the Curtiss H-75
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FranceJet.jpg)
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I think that jet stuka is going to need some tweaking. As is, it looks like the exhuast pipe is scraping the ground when she's sitting on the main and tail gear. Throw a ground line in and check that. Beautiful concepts, though.
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I was looking at that and came to the conclusion that the gear must telescope (partially retract). The tailwheel seems to support that idea.
Cheers,
Logan
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The jet D-520 looks so right,me likey :-*
Alex
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Hello
Many thanks for your comments.
Regarding the Stuka’s landing gear, the pilot had the possibility to select several configurations for taking off and landing, depending on landing surfaces, external load configuration, speed, etc.
The tail wheel was coated with metal protection (for shielding it against the exhaust of the jet)
Here are two examples of landing gear configuration.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JetStukaesquemacopy.jpg)
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The jet D-520 looks so right,me likey :-*
Alex
Ditto!
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Thanks for the comments. :)
Here is another WWII Jet the Messerschmitt Bf 110
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JetBf110copy.jpg)
The next one should be the BP Defiant (as sugested by Russ)
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That's doable!
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Any chance of a Jet Fw-190 in the wings...maybe based upon the Fw-190TL proposal:
(http://projekt46.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/fw190strahljager.jpg)
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Thanks for the comments.
Regarding the jet FW-190, Greg, yes I think it is doable ;)
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And for now the Jet BP Defiant (as sugested by Russ - Thanks)
This time it has frontal guns... ;)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JetBPDefiantcopy.jpg)
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Waaaaw,another... :-*
Alex
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With the exception of the turret, the jet defiant actually looks a lot like the Gloster E28 prototype !
That Stuka jet just looks angry, doesn't even need a shark face painted on it... looks predatory.
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Thanks for the comments.
And now, folowing a requested by Greg, here is the FW-190TL (as it might look like in operational service - Galland Circus)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190Tlcopy.jpg)
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Hello
Here is the Hawker Hurricane (jet)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/jetHurricanecopy.jpg)
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Thanks for the comments.
And now, folowing a requested by Greg, here is the FW-190TL (as it might look like in operational service - Galland Circus)
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190Tlcopy.jpg[/url])
Gorgeous!! Now, just imagine adding the "swallow-wing" tested on Fw-190V19 for higher performance.
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Gorgeous!! Now, just imagine adding the "swallow-wing" tested on Fw-190V19 for higher performance.
Hey, quit looking at my stash and reading my mind - I have the Antares 1/48 conversions for both and was planning on merging them! :icon_ninja:
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Lovely work on both the FW-190TL and the Hawker Hurricane (jet). :-*
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Thanks for the comments.
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Gorgeous!! Now, just imagine adding the "swallow-wing" tested on Fw-190V19 for higher performance.
Hey, quit looking at my stash and reading my mind - I have the Antares 1/48 conversions for both and was planning on merging them! :icon_ninja:
Here is general representation of that future build ;)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190TlVcopy.jpg)
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Dang JP your prop to jet conversions are frikken awesome :-*
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Gorgeous!! Now, just imagine adding the "swallow-wing" tested on Fw-190V19 for higher performance.
Hey, quit looking at my stash and reading my mind - I have the Antares 1/48 conversions for both and was planning on merging them! :icon_ninja:
-shrug- I've got Igor's conversions in 1/72 with the same end in mind.
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Thanks for the comments.
I hope to see the plastic FW-190 TL/V19 soon... ;)
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Continuing with the WWII Jets here is the P-51B Mustang
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JetMustangP51Bcopy.jpg)
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Continuing with the WWII Jets here is the P-51B Mustang
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JetMustangP51Bcopy.jpg[/url])
Gorgeous!! I think, though, that you'd need a really heavy armament package in the nose to balance the engine all the way in the back. Too, I'm thinking that you'd want to smooth out the flow of the intake into the engine and fuselage as what you have shows a bit of a sharp break that could cause problems.
Of course, part of me wants to say that the "jet-Mustang" was the FJ-1 Fury. ;)
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... I think, though, that you'd need a really heavy armament package in the nose to balance the engine all the way in the back...
That also gives you more wing space (on the c/g) for fuel -- those early jets were thirsty!
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Thanks for the comments.
Perhaps I can make some of the suggested modifications with the D model (bubble canopy).
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Hello
The Antonov An-75 (NATO codename Cog) was an amphibious version of the An-72.
It featured also a different engine arrangement, with the engine pods placed at the wingtips.
The engine pods could also be pivoted; although this not allowed for a true VTOL aircraft it permitted a very reduced take-off run, making the An-75 a very useful STOL amphibious aircraft.
Here is an example from the Naval Air Arm of Ukraine
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/An-75f.jpg)
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Hello
The D version of the Mustang introduced many improvements for this jet.
The new variant featured a new canopy and back fuselage, a more powerful engine and a redesigned air entrance and a more powerful armament.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JetMustangP51Dcopy.jpg)
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Love that An-75 JP! :-* 8)
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Love the D version Jet Mustang :-*
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Nice job on the P-51D Jet Mustang. But that tilt-nacelle An-75 Cog is the business!
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JP, that jet -51D really got me. Can you modify it with the cockpit a little bit forward, á la Mustang FTB?
Rafa
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Mustang looks killer good. Will a F-18 engine fit? As a tail dragger a pebble on airfield becomes a bullet.
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Mustang looks killer good. Will a F-18 engine fit? As a tail dragger a pebble on airfield becomes a bullet.
A dry F404 might fit as a warbird engine for much later in life. I suspect the original engine would be a small axial flow engine, the fuselage not really allowing room for a centrifugal-flow compressor. I'd hazard a guess at something like a Beryl or a Lockheed L1000, though a small engine from Turbodyne wouldn't be an impossibility.
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The An-75 is inspired!
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The An-75 is inspired!
Indeed
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Many thanks for all the comments.
P-51: This used an early jet, but it is very interesting to see what could be fitted at a later stage: thanks for the ideas; maybe a can make a modernized P-51...
An-75: initially I was going to make a full VTOL aircraft but thought that a tilting engine pod could do well for a reasonably STOL
Many thanks :)
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JP, that jet -51D really got me. Can you modify it with the cockpit a little bit forward, á la Mustang FTB?
Rafa
I will work on it
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Mustang looks killer good. Will a F-18 engine fit? As a tail dragger a pebble on airfield becomes a bullet.
Hello
This aircraft had a tricycle landing gear; it featured a mall retractable tail wheel only for preventing tail scrapping.
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Hello
The CV-22FC was the “flying Crane “version of the V-22.
It feature a redesigned rear fuselage (or the almost lack of it) and more powerful engines.
This variant was used by several civilian companies and used in a number of heavy lifting tasks (including cargo, firefighting, etc.).
The CV-22FC had the ability to use standardized pods that could be configured to many different missions. The pods could be fitted to any aircraft thanks to the standardized connections and dimensions, allowing for great versatility.
Below we see an example of a medical evacuation pod (US Army) and a command post (US Marines).
There were also specialized pods for electronic warfare, reconnaissance, psychological warfare, etc.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/CV-22FC.jpg)
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JP, that jet -51D really got me. Can you modify it with the cockpit a little bit forward, á la Mustang FTB?
Rafa
Here you go...
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JetMustangP51FTBcopy.jpg)
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And for my second scenario (Jets engines developed only 20 years latter), how about a early 1950's Mustang...
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MustangP51JetPropcopy.jpg)
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Thanks for the Mustangs, JP! They're all food for thought
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Osprey skycranes look great. :)
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Osprey skycranes look great. :)
Agreed - one could see it happening for real too...maybe.
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Woah that jet P-51 is absolutely smokin'!
Brian da Basher
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Thanks for the comments.
The V-22 SkyCrane would be great to see in the real world... or in plastic. ;)
The Jet (andprop) Mustangs came out as I intended; mauybe I will do some more variations of it later.
Many thanks :)
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And now for another WWII Jet: The Fokker D.XXI
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JetFokkerD21copy.jpg)
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You certainly hit a sweet
spot spat with your Fokker D.XXI jet, Mr Vieira!
I may have to have some, um, "me time" with this one.
Lovely!!!
:-*
Brian da Basher
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I suspect you're more likely to see that V-22 Flying Crane version in plastic rather than in RL. As I understand the structure, that would take considerable redesign. Still, it does look most interesting and I can't help but ponder how I'd do it within the existing structural constraints. I'm not saying it's impossible but it's definitely on the more unlikely side.
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Now that jet Fokker D.XXI is thinking outside the box
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And for my second scenario (Jets engines developed only 20 years latter), how about a early 1950's Mustang...
Very wonderful! Thanks a lot! :-*
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You certainly hit a sweet spot spat with your Fokker D.XXI jet, Mr Vieira!
I may have to have some, um, "me time" with this one.
Lovely!!!
:-*
Brian da Basher
You're welcome.
Have fun ;)
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I suspect you're more likely to see that V-22 Flying Crane version in plastic rather than in RL. As I understand the structure, that would take considerable redesign. Still, it does look most interesting and I can't help but ponder how I'd do it within the existing structural constraints. I'm not saying it's impossible but it's definitely on the more unlikely side.
I understand it is a rather less realistic approach to ir, but the idea of seeing a real-world V-22 Flying Crane is insteresting... ;)
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Now that jet Fokker D.XXI is thinking outside the box
Thank you. Is a way to keep as much as possible the general layout of the original aircraft and adapting to jet power; I am doing a few more jets of this period.
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And for my second scenario (Jets engines developed only 20 years latter), how about a early 1950's Mustang...
Very wonderful! Thanks a lot! :-*
Thank you.
And here is another Mustang variant: twin-boom
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MustangP51JetPropTWBcopy.jpg)
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OMG! you're on fire with those Mustangs, JP
When and if you can, I would like to see your interpretation of FTBs
Rafa
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OMG! you're on fire with those Mustangs, JP
When and if you can, I would like to see your interpretation of FTBs
Rafa
I will look onto it
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For now a floatplane Mustang
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MustangP51JetPropFLPcopy.jpg)
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Wow, the Mustang float plane is way cooler looking than it sounds. :)
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:-*
Alex
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Thanks :)
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And continuing with the floatplanes, a FW-190D
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190FLTcopy.jpg)
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And here is another Mustang variant: twin-boom
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MustangP51JetPropTWBcopy.jpg[/url])
I love this!
Cheers,
Logan
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Yes, wonderful twin-boom Mustang! :-* :-*
In case you do not draw the B derivative of this D, I would make it, as I did with the previous ones:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_P-51TR6_zzw.jpg)
Thanks again!
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And continuing with the floatplanes, a FW-190D
Mmmmm... :-*
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I really like your floaty FW, Mr Vieira!
Brian da Basher
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Did any German Jet engines make it to Japan or Italy in this scenario? Hint, hint...
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Thanks a lot for your comments; these last floatplanes have been relly fun to make :)
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Did any German Jet engines make it to Japan or Italy in this scenario? Hint, hint...
Both Japan and Italy had thier one jets, but they use also some German ones... ;)
For now I give you a Japanese FW-190 Floatplane
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190FLTJPcopy.jpg)
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Awesomeee !!! :-*
Could you do a Romanian one?
Alex
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Awesomeee !!! :-*
Could you do a Romanian one?
Alex
Sure! Do you have any particular colour scheme...?
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And for now a Jet powered PZL P.11
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/jetPZLP11bcopy.jpg)
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Sure! Do you have any particular colour scheme...?
No,your choice...thanks a lot.
Alex
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Oh, that Japanese Dora is beautiful!!!
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Oh, that Japanese Dora is beautiful!!!
A real beauty.
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Thanks for all the comments. :)
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Awesomeee !!! :-*
Could you do a Romanian one?
Alex
Here it is.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190FLTRMcopy.jpg)
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I love the look of that Japanese Dora. It's gorgeous!
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Thank you. :)
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And here is another Floatie Dora: an Italian one
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190FLTITcopy.jpg)
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Thanks JP,romanian FW looks awesome and I like the italian too,great job !!!
I should try to make one soon.
Alex
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Japanese Fockewulf is a real beauty!
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I don't know which of your latest bunch I like most.
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Thanks a lot for all your comments :)
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And now for a prop He-162
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/He-162propcopy.jpg)
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Interesting idea...maybe a VTOL version?
Alex
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Floatplanes galore!!. And the turbo-salamander ;) is out of this world
Rafa
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I like your propellor-driven Salamander, Mr Vieira. The camo scheme is easy on the eyes.
Now let's see you put the prop on the front. >:D
Brian da Basher
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Wonderful twin-boom He-162, thanks! :-* And with the pusher propeller, there is a very good reason to be a twin-boomer, this is technical wisdom, not fantasy!
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WOW :othe twin boom ,pusher, float plane Mustang is the shizznit :-* :-* :-*
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Seems familiar...you're is way better though!
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/162ptp.jpg)
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Interesting idea...maybe a VTOL version?
Alex
Now that is a very interesting idea: thank you
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Floatplanes galore!!. And the turbo-salamander ;) is out of this world
Rafa
Gracias Rafael
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I like your propellor-driven Salamander, Mr Vieira. The camo scheme is easy on the eyes.
Now let's see you put the prop on the front. >:D
Brian da Basher
I think I'll pass that for the moment ;)
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Wonderful twin-boom He-162, thanks! :-* And with the pusher propeller, there is a very good reason to be a twin-boomer, this is technical wisdom, not fantasy!
WOW :othe twin boom ,pusher, float plane Mustang is the shizznit :-* :-* :-*
Thanks to both :)
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Seems familiar...you're is way better though!
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/162ptp.jpg[/url])
I really like your prop salamander :-*
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Propeller is better ;)
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JP, it seems your Prop-162 has a 3-blade propeller while GTX's one has a 5-blade propeller, right? ???
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Twin boom He-162. Use a modern turboprop as pusher and us as new USAF light attack plane. Looks so right as turboprop pusher !!!
Can someone here do a drawing of that? USAF markings and light stores under wings?
Bill
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JP, it seems your Prop-162 has a 3-blade propeller while GTX's one has a 5-blade propeller, right? ???
That's one difference. Mine is a turboprop whereas JP's is a piston engine. Oh, and his is a coloured and still looks better.
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Thanks for the comments. :)
My design was made in line with one of the scenarios I created (Jet engines only developed 20 years latter) and so the He-162 is a piston engined fighter (using a version of the Junkers Jumo 213)
I am thinking of converting other WWII jets to piston-engined types
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Hello
The concept of gunship aircraft (a slow flying aircraft moving in circles around a ground target and firing at it from the side) was introduced in the mid 1920’s.
Several countries began using this tactics, employing, at first, small ground attack aircraft with the rear gunner firing at ground targets.
Later on larger aircraft were used (primarily adapted bombers and transport aircraft) that could carry more weapons and that had greater endurance.
One of the main RAF aircraft used in the gunship role, thought the late 1930's and up until the initial stages of WWII, was an adaptation of the Handely Page Harrow.
This aircraft, the HP Hornet, could carry a considerable offensive armament that could be fired through the 3 windows located at the left rear side of the airframe, while still retaining the defensive armament of its bomber cousin.
The HP Hornet was however outdated regarding its overall performance and was retired and replaced by newer gunships.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/GunshipHarrowcopy.jpg)
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the He-162 is a piston engined fighter (using a version of the Junkers Jumo 213)
An in-line engine may be air-cooled with a circular intake like the Fw-190D but why a so long duct between air intake and engine?
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the He-162 is a piston engined fighter (using a version of the Junkers Jumo 213)
An in-line engine may be air-cooled with a circular intake like the Fw-190D but why a so long duct between air intake and engine?
Putting a radiator in front of the engine with the resulting hot air going around the engine and exhausting out the back cowling? That would fit the geometry he had to work with.
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Thanks engineer!
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Thanks for the comments
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And why not a floatplane Hurricane...?
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HawkerHurricaneIICFLTcopy.jpg)
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Man,you're incredible,AWESOME float Hurri !!!
Alex
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JP, sorry your Hornet gunship received no comment. I mean: it is very well done, alas I am afraid of weapons and I am not the best to appreciate such a flying heavy weapon.
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Love the HP Hornet and the Hurri
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The HP Hornet is great and well fits that idea begun rather earlier than in our timestream. The floatplane Hurricane looks like it belongs and begs to be modeled.
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Hello
The concept of gunship aircraft (a slow flying aircraft moving in circles around a ground target and firing at it from the side) was introduced in the mid 1920’s.
Several countries began using this tactics, employing, at first, small ground attack aircraft with the rear gunner firing at ground targets.
Later on larger aircraft were used (primarily adapted bombers and transport aircraft) that could carry more weapons and that had greater endurance.
One of the main RAF aircraft used in the gunship role, thought the late 1930's and up until the initial stages of WWII, was an adaptation of the Handely Page Harrow.
This aircraft, the HP Hornet, could carry a considerable offensive armament that could be fired through the 3 windows located at the left rear side of the airframe, while still retaining the defensive armament of its bomber cousin.
The HP Hornet was however outdated regarding its overall performance and was retired and replaced by newer gunships.
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/GunshipHarrowcopy.jpg[/url])
My what lovely spats you have there!
:-* :-*
Most excellent, Mr Vieira!
Brian da Basher
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Gunship is looking good. Plus has room for lots of ammo.
One of first planes which could be a decent gunship for its time is Ford Tri-Motor.
Bill
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The HP Hornet would be really useful over the invasion beaches had the Germans tried to land.
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What-If the mistel concept was continue to be used later...?
Here is a Korean War Mistel (F-86 / F-86)
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-86Fmistelcopy.jpg[/url])
and a vietnam one (F-4/ B-57)
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/USAFMistelcopy.jpg[/url])
Very interesting JP Vieira!!!!
Great idea! Great work!!!
M.A.D
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([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ThunderGR.jpg[/url])
I like it!!!!
M.A.D
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JP Vieira, I have always like the idea of NATO, inspired by the power and fear of the Mil Mi-24 Hind, developing a modified Westland Lynx 3, as the basis of a cost effective counter!
I have always envisaged the grafting/mating of a Bell AH-1S or Agusta A129 Mangusta forward fuselage and cockpit to that of the more powerful and more beefed up Lynx 3 fuselage, engine and rotor system. It would also have incorporated:
- Fuselage-mounted stub-wing to give added lift and hang weapons
- A gun/cannon turret in or under its nose (again AH-1S or A129 International style!)
- Able to carry and deliver an Infantry Section of eight-fully equipped troops, within the existing Lynx 3 main cabin.
- Use existing fixed landing gear of Lynx 3, so as to save cost, weight and complexity.
So what do you think JP Vieira???? ;)
M.A.D
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Thanks a lot for your comments
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Gunship is looking good. Plus has room for lots of ammo.
One of first planes which could be a decent gunship for its time is Ford Tri-Motor.
Bill
Thats a very interesting idea: thank you
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The HP Hornet would be really useful over the invasion beaches had the Germans tried to land.
Yes, Gunships would be very useful in that scenario.
The HP Hornet was used operationally at the start of WWII and some were sent to the continent along with British expeditionary corps. They were used in the Dunkirk area and manage to hold off some advancing German units; however they suffered heavy losses and the remaining survivors were not used in frontline service again (they were replaced by newer and more capable gunships).
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JP Vieira, I have always like the idea of NATO, inspired by the power and fear of the Mil Mi-24 Hind, developing a modified Westland Lynx 3, as the basis of a cost effective counter!
I have always envisaged the grafting/mating of a Bell AH-1S or Agusta A129 Mangusta forward fuselage and cockpit to that of the more powerful and more beefed up Lynx 3 fuselage, engine and rotor system. It would also have incorporated:
- Fuselage-mounted stub-wing to give added lift and hang weapons
- A gun/cannon turret in or under its nose (again AH-1S or A129 International style!)
- Able to carry and deliver an Infantry Section of eight-fully equipped troops, within the existing Lynx 3 main cabin.
- Use existing fixed landing gear of Lynx 3, so as to save cost, weight and complexity.
So what do you think JP Vieira???? ;)
M.A.D
It is a very interesting idea: I will have to look at it.
Thank you
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Hello
As is widely known a major contributor to the defeat of the Luftwaffe in the Battle of Britain was radar… airborne radar, or more precisely the fleet of early warning aircraft (AEW) of the RAF.
Radar was used by the RAF for some time, but it was its force of AEW aircraft (or Air Controlled Interception, as it was known at the time) that helped turn the tide in favor of British forces in the BoB.
The first airborne and control aircraft were the adapted versions of the Bristol Bombay (the Bristol Bluebird ACI.MK.3), that entered service in 1935.
It is amazing that it was only in the middle of WWII that other Air Forces (namely the Luftwaffe) realized the tactical and strategic value of this system and started fielding their own.
We might say that it were the lessons learned form the BoB that shaped the future of the AEW aircraft; the Luftwaffe and other air forces introduced their own AEW aircraft and the RAF fielded even more capable ones.
Although some Bristol Bluebirds were used in the BoB, it was a version of the Armstrong Whitworth 23 (the AW Osprey ACI.MK.4) that was the main AEW aircraft used by the RAF at the time.
Although performing very well in the BoB and in the following Blitz, the Osprey had some serious performance limitations and soon a replacement was ordered (a version of the Avro York transport, the Avro Hawk ACI.MK.7)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AWOsprey2.jpg)
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OMG! you're on fire with those Mustangs, JP
When and if you can, I would like to see your interpretation of FTBs
Rafa
Here it is: a central-monted engine driving pushj and pull propellers.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MustangP51FTB5copy.jpg)
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Hello
The Avro Hawk entered service in 1943 as was used by the RAF in all major operation form there on.
It was particularly useful, alongside other allied AEW aircraft, in coordinating the aerial operation of the Normandy Landings, in June 1944.
The Allied AEW aircraft were essential for the success of Operation Overlord as much as the US Navy flying boat AEW aircraft in the major Pacific landings (such as the Martin Eagle-Eye – developed form the Martin PBM Mariner).
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AvroHawkAEWcopy.jpg)
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I love your push-pull Mustang and the AEW (but this is so secret, shhht, maybe it is forbidden to reveal it...).
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Thanks Tophe; perhaps more WWII AEW aircraft soon.
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Mustang FTB!!! Thanks!!! :-* :-* :-*
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([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AWOsprey2.jpg[/url])
It sort of reminds me of the Capelis XC-12.
(http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Larkins/7727L.jpg)
Cheers,
Logan
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Love the RAF AEW birds! :-*
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([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AWOsprey2.jpg[/url])
It sort of reminds me of the Capelis XC-12.
([url]http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Larkins/7727L.jpg[/url])
Cheers,
Logan
Thanks. The basis of the AEW aircraft is a rather unmodified AW 23 but it has similarities to the Capelis.
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Love the RAF AEW birds! :-*
Thank you.
I had great fun figuring out what kind of radar antenna to put on top of each AEW aircraft. I wanted to make radar antennas that would be chronological plausible.
The first one, the AW Osprey has a modified antenna based on the "Chain Home" system of the RAF.
The Avro Hawk features a radar dome housing a rotating antenna.
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I have a soft spot for Armstrong Whitworth products but the AW 23 is rarely illustrated. And the concept of an airborne Chain Home set was just great ;)
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Love the AW.23!
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Thanks for the comments.
I might do some variations of the basic AW 23 ;)
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And for now, the tanker version of the HP Harrow.
The Handley Page Harrow CK.MK.8 was one of the first RAF aerial tankers. Althought soon replaced by newer and more capable tankers, this aircraft still palyed a vital role in air-to-air refuelling training (for both the tankers' crews and all front-line pilots needing to qualify in this vital aspect) and in some low intensity locations.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ATKHarrowcopy.jpg)
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Another tanker used by the RAF was the AW 23 (AW Supporter KC.MK 9).
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AEW23TKcopy.jpg)
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Hello
Faced with massive distances to cover, the Japanese military were among the very first to use air-to-air refueling.
Entering service in 1942, the Nakajima G5T was one the most important Japanese aerial tankers; this was also one of first tankers to use a refueling boom instead of the probe-and-drogue system.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/NakajimaG5NTKusocopy.jpg)
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Hello
The Tanker version of the Avro York (CK.MK.10) was introduced in 1943 and replaced many of the previous Tanker types used by the RAF.
If featured both refuelling systems (flying boom and probe-and-drogue) allowing for a greater operational flexibility.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AvroYorkKCcopy.jpg)
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Fantastic designs!
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Entering service in 1942, the Nakajima G5T was one the most important Japanese aerial tankers;
Dear JP, your drawing with a refuelled one three times smaller than the tanker inspired me:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_P-51TR6_zzzn.jpg)
Thanks!
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Fantastic designs!
Indeed !
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And for now, the tanker version of the HP Harrow.
The Handley Page Harrow CK.MK.8 was one of the first RAF aerial tankers. Althought soon replaced by newer and more capable tankers, this aircraft still palyed a vital role in air-to-air refuelling training (for both the tankers' crews and all front-line pilots needing to qualify in this vital aspect) and in some low intensity locations.
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ATKHarrowcopy.jpg[/url])
My what lovely spats you have there!
:-* :-*
I'm enjoying your tankers quite a bit, Mr Vieira!
Brian da Basher
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I like it !!!
Mustanker is 1/32 bash with maybe B-17 or B-24 wing or what you like. Bottom scoop ideal for converting to tanker duty. 1/72 Mustangs behind to be refueled. Maybe it refuels a 1/72 B-17 or B-24. Make quite an aerial diorama.
So many bash concepts in posts on this forum :)
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Nice tankers man! I am diggin' this :)
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Many thanks for all the comments and suggestions.
It has been real fun to adapt more recent concepts (like the AEW, Gunship and Tankers) to aircraft of an earlier age.
Perhaps more to show in the near future.
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Hello
The F-109 StarKiller was a development of the F-104 designed by Lockheed’s Skunk Works.
The objective of this program was to produce a carrier for the new anti-satellite missile (the AST-2 Storm); the new aircraft had to have the best possible speed, rate of climb and operational ceiling in order to release the missile as quickly and as high as possible to enhance the missile’s chance of hitting its target.
The F-109 did not have radar and all systems not necessary to its limited mission conditions were deleted; The F-109 was guided throughout its entire flight by ground and airborne controllers; it was indeed a manned missile carrying an unmanned missile.
The program was started in the late 1950’s and the first squadron achieved operational status in 1962.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/StarKiller.jpg)
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Superb! Superb! Superb! Superb!
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Hello
The F-109 StarKiller was a development of the F-104 designed by Lockheed’s Skunk Works.
The objective of this program was to produce a carrier for the new anti-satellite missile (the AST-2 Storm); the new aircraft had to have the best possible speed, rate of climb and operational ceiling in order to release the missile as quickly and as high as possible to enhance the missile’s chance of hitting its target.
The F-109 did not have radar and all systems not necessary to its limited mission conditions were deleted; The F-109 was guided throughout its entire flight by ground and airborne controllers; it was indeed a manned missile carrying an unmanned missile.
The program was started in the late 1950’s and the first squadron achieved operational status in 1962.
Actually, the SAGE system could have easily performed the whole ground control thing. Maybe the 104/9 advanced version mounted atop a Titan 1 or Titan 2 to give it a bit more Umph and a orbital attack role.
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Very sleek looking, very cool! :)
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Really cool. Love it.
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Cool.
How about adding a liquid rocket like the NF-104A to close the gap of the last few thousand feet?
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The Starkiller is absolutely sweet!
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Many Thanks for all the comments
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Hello
The F-109 StarKiller was a development of the F-104 designed by Lockheed’s Skunk Works.
The objective of this program was to produce a carrier for the new anti-satellite missile (the AST-2 Storm); the new aircraft had to have the best possible speed, rate of climb and operational ceiling in order to release the missile as quickly and as high as possible to enhance the missile’s chance of hitting its target.
The F-109 did not have radar and all systems not necessary to its limited mission conditions were deleted; The F-109 was guided throughout its entire flight by ground and airborne controllers; it was indeed a manned missile carrying an unmanned missile.
The program was started in the late 1950’s and the first squadron achieved operational status in 1962.
Actually, the SAGE system could have easily performed the whole ground control thing. Maybe the 104/9 advanced version mounted atop a Titan 1 or Titan 2 to give it a bit more Umph and a orbital attack role.
The SAGE as the controller sure makes sense.
Attatching the F-109 to the Titan would make it really a blast, would the pilot survive it... ;)
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Cool.
How about adding a liquid rocket like the NF-104A to close the gap of the last few thousand feet?
Actually when i was designing it I thought about attacthing some rocket engine to it, mas did not made it; perhpas a new version of the F-109; Thanks
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Hello
The Edgley Optica II was an enlarged and up-engined version of the previous Optica I.
It was mainly directed at Military and Police forces and could carry a small external load (weapons, sensors or small external tanks).
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OpticaIIcopy.jpg)
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The Handley Page Harrow CK.MK.8 was one of the first RAF aerial tankers.
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ATKHarrowcopy.jpg[/url])
Hey great profile!!
You know air refuelling is one of those WWII things, which has always had me baffled. Air-refuelling had been tested and proven by the British pre-WWII, and was one of the most natural 'force multipliers', which the Allies could have applied during WWII, and yet they didn't :o
I know as you have pointed out 'that it required skill for the average pilot to master'. But I can not help think the lives it could have saved, had air-refuelling been able to top of bombers (allowing longer range and or extended radius of action - taking away predictable flight paths of Allied bomber, to which the Luftwaffe were able to station their fighter/interceptor airfields and patrol. It would have also allowed the critical fighter escorts to accompany the vulnerable bombers to many more targets, until the advent of the likes of the NAA P-51 Mustang)
Great work VP Vieira ;)
P.S. Any chance of some profiles of the likes of Short Sterling, early B-17D/E/F and B-24D/E's being utilised as tankers, as newer and more powerful designs and variants entered front-line service - i.e. Halifax, Lancaster, B-17F/G's and B-24J's etc..........(in both RAF and USAAF colours and markings ;) )
P.P.S. If you do not mind me saying, that had the Allies been so bold and foresighted to introduce airborne refuelling during WWII, I think they may have adapted an single hose approach initially (1-point refuelling) - the hose being located and deployed from the under rear fuselage, with the refuelling operator being located in the once rear turret. This arrangement would probably offer less prop-wash from the tanker, as well as the receiving aircraft's pilot to use the centre-line of the tankers fuselage as an important visual reference point ;)
Keep up the fantastic imagination, foresight and great profiles VP Vieira
M.A.D
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I love the F-109 StarKiller but the Optica II is brilliant! Great visibility, well-armed, and opposing ground troops would be giggling too much to return accurate fire ;D Wonderful!
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Just when you thought the Lockheed F-104 could not get any more sleeker!
Along comes your F-109 StarKiller !!
The anti-satellite role, along with your very clever name 'StarKiller' are both very imaginative!! Hats off to you ;)
P.S here is the Lockheed F-104 Starfighter / Air-2 Genie video I'm talking about!!
http://youtu.be/HyUcQbsEBrE (http://youtu.be/HyUcQbsEBrE)
M.A.D
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Many thanks for all your comments and suggestions :)
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The Handley Page Harrow CK.MK.8 was one of the first RAF aerial tankers.
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ATKHarrowcopy.jpg[/url])
Hey great profile!!
You know air refuelling is one of those WWII things, which has always had me baffled. Air-refuelling had been tested and proven by the British pre-WWII, and was one of the most natural 'force multipliers', which the Allies could have applied during WWII, and yet they didn't :o
I know as you have pointed out 'that it required skill for the average pilot to master'. But I can not help think the lives it could have saved, had air-refuelling been able to top of bombers (allowing longer range and or extended radius of action - taking away predictable flight paths of Allied bomber, to which the Luftwaffe were able to station their fighter/interceptor airfields and patrol. It would have also allowed the critical fighter escorts to accompany the vulnerable bombers to many more targets, until the advent of the likes of the NAA P-51 Mustang)
Great work VP Vieira ;)
That was also my starting point in creating the WWII Tankers; it would surelly change aerial operations in that era. Thank you
P.S. Any chance of some profiles of the likes of Short Sterling, early B-17D/E/F and B-24D/E's being utilised as tankers, as newer and more powerful designs and variants entered front-line service - i.e. Halifax, Lancaster, B-17F/G's and B-24J's etc..........(in both RAF and USAAF colours and markings ;) )
That is a great idea; I am going to work on it; thank you
P.P.S. If you do not mind me saying, that had the Allies been so bold and foresighted to introduce airborne refuelling during WWII, I think they may have adapted an single hose approach initially (1-point refuelling) - the hose being located and deployed from the under rear fuselage, with the refuelling operator being located in the once rear turret. This arrangement would probably offer less prop-wash from the tanker, as well as the receiving aircraft's pilot to use the centre-line of the tankers fuselage as an important visual reference point ;)
I had thought about it when designing some of these tankers, but in the end I decided to make them like this; It is a great idea for some earlier ones, perhaps (or smaller types); thanks for the suggestion
Keep up the fantastic imagination, foresight and great profiles VP Vieira
M.A.D
Thank you for your comments, suggestions and support.
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I love the F-109 StarKiller but the Optica II is brilliant! Great visibility, well-armed, and opposing ground troops would be giggling too much to return accurate fire ;D Wonderful!
If you can make the opposing guys not concentrating in thier mission, you will have the upper hand ;).
I think the Optica II could be a great surveilalance aiurcraft for both the Police and military. I will post some more profiles of it... just for the fun ;)
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Just when you thought the Lockheed F-104 could not get any more sleeker!
Along comes your F-109 StarKiller !!
The anti-satellite role, along with your very clever name 'StarKiller' are both very imaginative!! Hats off to you ;)
P.S here is the Lockheed F-104 Starfighter / Air-2 Genie video I'm talking about!!
[url]http://youtu.be/HyUcQbsEBrE[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/HyUcQbsEBrE[/url])
M.A.D
Thank you. Whenever i designed a new aircraft I think a suitable name is a must and StarKiller was just that name; glad you like it.
many thanks for the video; it could also be the firing mechanism for the F-109
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Hello
I decided to modify the F-109 illustration and adding some of suggestions made (a rocket motor to the F-109 and a releasing mechanism as shown in the F-104 / Aim-2)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-104Blanamento2copy.jpg)
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I'm playing catch-up with this thread but had to chime in: those V-22 variants are just amazing! I'm saving your profiles to use as 1) a possible color scheme for my USCG V-22 (and the hull mod may even make it onto my build, still thinking that one through) and 2) the Sky Crane V-22 concept, I think I can take a crack at making one of those, and I really liked the civilian color scheme, though a USMC marked sky crane is another possibility.
Too many excellent ideas in one location! Not enough superlatives in my vocabulary.
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Belated congratulations for your Optica II mutant insect...
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Many thanks for your comments.
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I'm playing catch-up with this thread but had to chime in: those V-22 variants are just amazing! I'm saving your profiles to use as 1) a possible color scheme for my USCG V-22 (and the hull mod may even make it onto my build, still thinking that one through) and 2) the Sky Crane V-22 concept, I think I can take a crack at making one of those, and I really liked the civilian color scheme, though a USMC marked sky crane is another possibility.
Too many excellent ideas in one location! Not enough superlatives in my vocabulary.
Thank. It would be great to see them in plastic
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I've Ben toying with the idea of a He-111 refuelling a Me-109 for a while - a way to overcome the '109s range problem in the BoB maybe. Would be great to see your rendition of this...
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I've Ben toying with the idea of a He-111 refuelling a Me-109 for a while - a way to overcome the '109s range problem in the BoB maybe. Would be great to see your rendition of this...
I concur GTX!!
Although, I think the Luftwaffe might have needed all the He 111's they could get as front-line medium bombers during the Battle of Britain - unless they were to utilise the earlier long-nose He 111E-3 and D-1's or what about the number of Junkers Ju 86's?
M.A.D
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Interesting thread. This from M.A.D. makes sense.
P.S. Any chance of some profiles of the likes of Short Sterling, early B-17D/E/F and B-24D/E's being utilised as tankers, as newer and more powerful designs and variants entered front-line service - i.e. Halifax, Lancaster, B-17F/G's and B-24J's etc..........(in both RAF and USAAF colours and markings
1 > what armament is retained, if any
2 > C-46 or C-47 could be tankers
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Many thanks for all the comments and suggestions.
All the suggestions are great and will be put definitely on the To Do List.
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I've Ben toying with the idea of a He-111 refuelling a Me-109 for a while - a way to overcome the '109s range problem in the BoB maybe. Would be great to see your rendition of this...
I concur GTX!!
Although, I think the Luftwaffe might have needed all the He 111's they could get as front-line medium bombers during the Battle of Britain - unless they were to utilise the earlier long-nose He 111E-3 and D-1's or what about the number of Junkers Ju 86's?
M.A.D
This version of the He-111 and/or the Junkers Ju-86 and even older transport/bomber types could be great basis for tanker types
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Interesting thread. This from M.A.D. makes sense.
P.S. Any chance of some profiles of the likes of Short Sterling, early B-17D/E/F and B-24D/E's being utilised as tankers, as newer and more powerful designs and variants entered front-line service - i.e. Halifax, Lancaster, B-17F/G's and B-24J's etc..........(in both RAF and USAAF colours and markings
1 > what armament is retained, if any
2 > C-46 or C-47 could be tankers
The older bomber as tankers does makes sense.
I think they shold retain at least some type of defensive armament; the usual tail torret can also serve as a post for the refueller.
C-46 and C-47 can became also tankers (as older trasnport types also)
Thanks
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And now for something different...
As it is known, the successful WWII P-51 Mustang can trace back its design to the 1933’s North American P-33 Bronco.
The P-33 Bronco was a very successful aircraft and was also exported to some countries
Here is a profile in USAAC colors
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/1933Mustangcopy.jpg)
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Funny mix of old spats and canopy-less cockpit with the ventral scoop of the Mustang... (For realists, the Consolidated XP-33 was a derivative of the YP-25 but I prefer your World JP...) ;)
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Mmmm...just don't let Brian see it!
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The P-33 is outstanding!!!
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I really like this one a lot! :-*
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I like it! Simple, but it looks very agile!
Eínon
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JP, you keep me marveled with your Mustang lineages. this is just.... outstanding
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Many thanks for all your comments and support! :)
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Hello
The Supermarine Sparrow was a low-wing monoplane with fixed landing gear that entered service with the RAF in 1933.
This aircraft was powered by the RR kestrel engine and was also exported to some of the UK allies.
It is also famous as the "father" of the Spitfire that evolved directly from this 1933 design.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/1933Siptfirecopy.jpg)
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And now for something different...
As it is known, the successful WWII P-51 Mustang can trace back its design to the 1933’s North American P-33 Bronco.
The P-33 Bronco was a very successful aircraft and was also exported to some countries
Here is a profile in USAAC colors
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/1933Mustangcopy.jpg[/url])
Oh, that's quite the tasty design. It almost undoubtedly uses a Curtiss Conqueror V-12 and I suspect the wing planform would resemble that of the BT-9 or other T-6 predecessors. I can see Wright Field ordering a one-off with a Kesterl engine for comparison purposes.
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Love the P-33 Bronco and Supermarine Sparrow -- both the concept and the execution. Nice!
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Oh, I wondered why the North American OV-10 has been called Bronco instead of Bronco II? Well, I know the explanation I think: the OV-10 did not exist, only the P-33: only Bronco in the World! (in this World, ahem...) ;)
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Many thanks for your comments and suggestions
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And now for something different...
As it is known, the successful WWII P-51 Mustang can trace back its design to the 1933’s North American P-33 Bronco.
The P-33 Bronco was a very successful aircraft and was also exported to some countries
Here is a profile in USAAC colors
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/1933Mustangcopy.jpg[/url])
Oh, that's quite the tasty design. It almost undoubtedly uses a Curtiss Conqueror V-12 and I suspect the wing planform would resemble that of the BT-9 or other T-6 predecessors. I can see Wright Field ordering a one-off with a Kesterl engine for comparison purposes.
The wing of this one has a shape something between the BT-6 and the latter P-51.
The P-33 also used the RR Kestrel (for some export countries)
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Oh, I wondered why the North American OV-10 has been called Bronco instead of Bronco II? Well, I know the explanation I think: the OV-10 did not exist, only the P-33: only Bronco in the World! (in this World, ahem...) ;)
Of course they both existed; the OV-10 was the Bronco II ;)
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I can but gape in absolute awe at your astonishing talent and incredible design sense in adding those lovely spats to your latest profiles, Mr Vieira!
Spats are known to be the ultimate in sophisticated aerodynamics!
Thank you!!!
:-* :-*
Brian da Basher
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That P-33? I want it.
Cheers,
Logan
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Thanks for your comments.
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I can but gape in absolute awe at your astonishing talent and incredible design sense in adding those lovely spats to your latest profiles, Mr Vieira!
Spats are known to be the ultimate in sophisticated aerodynamics!
Thank you!!!
:-* :-*
Brian da Basher
Yes, I thought you might like those ... ;)
And I think you will enjoy also some two more I am doing (perhaps for the GB)...
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That P-33? I want it.
Cheers,
Logan
You can have it ... :)
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Hello
The Junkers Ju-85 Jäger was one of the first aircrafts of the new Luftwaffe and also the first monoplane fighter of that service after its rebirth.
The Ju-85 aircraft completed its flight program in 1932 and was one of the last Junkers aircraft to use its signature corrugated metal.
The Ju-85 was relegated to training and support roles in the late 1930's when newer types entered service.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JunkersJu85Jger.jpg)
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Outstanding!
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Thank you!
And for a different version, now with more corrugated metal ... ;)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JunkersJu85Acopy.jpg)
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Corrugated metal is fun..
Here is another version with evem more of it ... ;)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JunkersJu85Bcopy.jpg)
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For the realistic shadow on corrugated metal: congratulations!
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Y'know I was really grumpy from a sleepless night until I saw your Ju-85 and those lovely spats! Corrugated, too! Talk about the cherry on top!
:-* :-*
You've made my day, Mr Vieira!
Brian da Basher
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Thanks for the comments.
It has been a great fun to do the corrugated metal aircraft; perhaps I will do some more in the near future.
This aircraft could also be a forerunner to the stuka... ;)
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JP: Love your Ju-85 Jägers! The more corrugations the better! The Jäger somehow reminds of the Stuka and the A50 Junior at the same time ;)!
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JP: Love your Ju-85 Jägers! The more corrugations the better! The Jäger somehow reminds of the Stuka and the A50 Junior at the same time ;)!
Thank you. Corrugated metal is fun ;)
The Jager, we can see it as a forerunner to the Stuka.
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Oooo...there's an idea: A corrugated metal Stuka!!!
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Inspired by you, JP, I considered drawing a (simplified) corrugated-Mustang, but I am not sure how to do: are you sure the lines have the same distance between them, as well when the panel is vertical and when it turns to almost horizontal (top and bottom of fuselage)? I thought the distance would decrease in the second way.
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Thanks for the comments and suggestions
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Inspired by you, JP, I considered drawing a (simplified) corrugated-Mustang, but I am not sure how to do: are you sure the lines have the same distance between them, as well when the panel is vertical and when it turns to almost horizontal (top and bottom of fuselage)? I thought the distance would decrease in the second way.
I think that, due to relative small area of the lateral fuselage, it would be no major differences between the lines; Although if you decrease the distance between the lines in the top and the bottom of the lateral fuselage, that would surely add to the illusion of volume.
I hope to see it soon :)
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Here is the principle of my analysis, João... I am going to adapt it to a Mustang.
Thanks again for the idea!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/P-51TR6_zzzu.jpg)
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Well, you were very right: there is almost no difference with equidistant lines...
(and your drawing were a million times better, taking care of shadows...) :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_P-51TR6_zzzv.jpg)
EDIT: improved view with more regular lines, sorry:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_P-51TR6_zzzv2.jpg)
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Hello Tophe
Thank you for the designs: very interesting.
The difference between the lines would be greater in larger aircraft.
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And for now an oldie:
The Nimrod Tanker
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/NimrodKC2.jpg)
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And two versions of the Eagle operated by the RAF
The Interceptor
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-15Kcopy.jpg)
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And the Strike aircraft
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/EagleGRcopy.jpg)
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Those are gorgeous RAF birds. The Eagles are quite tempting. What wing did you use as inspiration for that strike variant?
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i like the strike eagle, maybe the tails could be slanted out a little?
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Love your Nimrod, Mr Vieira!
Brian da Basher
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Thanks for the comments :)
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Those are gorgeous RAF birds. The Eagles are quite tempting. What wing did you use as inspiration for that strike variant?
Thank you. The wing: I just extended the rear of it and deleted the horizontal tail
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i like the strike eagle, maybe the tails could be slanted out a little?
Thank you. The tails slanted would look great!
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And here are some more oldies:
Lightnings (export advance versions)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6EAU.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6Isr.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6Pol.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6PTcopy.jpg)
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Those Lightnings are great ... but the Polish AF camouflage is especially sharp :)
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Those are still gorgeous, JP.
Cheers,
Logan
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Thank you very much :)
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Here are some more Lightnings
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6SW.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6Tunisia.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6ZW.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6Ost.jpg)
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And here is the final batch of Lightning (at least for now ;) )
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightningF6Aeronavalecopy.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightningF6Yougcopy.jpg)
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Sweet Eagles and that Yugoslav Lightning might have to be done in plastic!
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Thank you.
I am not really a plastic modeller (more of a pixel modeller), so if someone wants to do it in plastic, go for it ... ;)
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And now from a request made by M.A.D.
JP Vieira, I have always like the idea of NATO, inspired by the power and fear of the Mil Mi-24 Hind, developing a modified Westland Lynx 3, as the basis of a cost effective counter!
I have always envisaged the grafting/mating of a Bell AH-1S or Agusta A129 Mangusta forward fuselage and cockpit to that of the more powerful and more beefed up Lynx 3 fuselage, engine and rotor system. It would also have incorporated:
- Fuselage-mounted stub-wing to give added lift and hang weapons
- A gun/cannon turret in or under its nose (again AH-1S or A129 International style!)
- Able to carry and deliver an Infantry Section of eight-fully equipped troops, within the existing Lynx 3 main cabin.
- Use existing fixed landing gear of Lynx 3, so as to save cost, weight and complexity.
So what do you think JP Vieira?
M.A.D
Here is the Westland-Agusta Panther
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/westlandpanther5copy.jpg)
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The Italian Army also uses this helicopter
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/westlandpanther5Itcopy.jpg)
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Here is the Westland-Agusta Panther
Nice concept M.A.D. and JP! My inner JMN says just plain "ARMY" though ;)
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Thank you :)
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And now for new Lightning Profiles
South Africa
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6SA.jpg)
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Those look very nice, JP.
Cheers,
Logan
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Thanks Logan :)
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And here are some more oldies:
The VTOL German-Italian VJ-102C
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/VJ102CMARINE.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/VJ102CLuftw.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/VJ102CItl.jpg)
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Absolutely wonderful !!!
I really like this concept (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/respect/respect-013.gif)
Alex
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Thank you.
I just tweaked a bit of the real-world VJ-101
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Damn nice - we need to see some more of those. Perhaps all the current RW Harrier (original and updated and SHAR) users?
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Damn nice - we need to see some more of those. Perhaps all the current RW Harrier (original and updated and SHAR) users?
Thank you. I need to make them...
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And Here are some USMC and RAF profiles
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/VJ102Cperfiscopy.jpg)
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Mmmm....
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Love the VJ-102Cs ... especially the Marineflieger one!
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Gorgeous!! I'd love to see the same approach applied to the Bell D-188A (F-109/F3L-1). RetroMechanix has lots of good info on it.
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Wow thanks JP
I've been wanting to see the Westland Lynx 3 and Agusta A129 aka Western 'Hind' in drawing/profile since I fantasised ;) about it about 25 years ago!!
They look great thanks my friend!!
P.S I love the Swedish EE Lightning! I think its something about the versatility and purpose of the Swedish camouflage they apply to their aircraft!! By the way your weapons load out in your Lightning profiles is how the design should (should have been packing!) if it was going to see more sales!!
P.P.S Your German-Italian VJ-102C are a real eye opener!!
M.A.D
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Many thanks for all your comments and support.
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Gorgeous!! I'd love to see the same approach applied to the Bell D-188A (F-109/F3L-1). RetroMechanix has lots of good info on it.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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Wow thanks JP
I've been wanting to see the Westland Lynx 3 and Agusta A129 aka Western 'Hind' in drawing/profile since I fantasised ;) about it about 25 years ago!!
They look great thanks my friend!!
Thank you: I am glad you like it.
P.S I love the Swedish EE Lightning! I think its something about the versatility and purpose of the Swedish camouflage they apply to their aircraft!!
I really enjoy making aircraft with the swedish splinter camo. I think I will post some more.
By the way your weapons load out in your Lightning profiles is how the design should (should have been packing!) if it was going to see more sales!!
I too feel that the Lightning should have pack more weapons.
P.P.S Your German-Italian VJ-102C are a real eye opener!!
M.A.D
Thank you :)
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Here are some more VJ-102 profiles
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/VJ-102Cx.jpg)
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Here are some more "classic" ones ;)
The Mirage-25
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Mirage25ZAcopy.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Mirage25SA.jpg)
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And a round of Phantoms
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4Bmarcopy.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4BSAcopy.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4BSWcopy.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4BSWdesertocopy.jpg)
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Love the Swedish F-4 with the green-green-brown-black splinter
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Thank you.
The last one is a version I created for a possible deployament of Swedish Air Force to the Middle-East / Desert
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I was wondering about that.
Thats cool too.
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Thank you.
Here are some more "oldies" ones: The F-106 modernized
The F-106 Delta Spear
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-106WDestaSpearmissilcopy.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-106WDestaSpearSWdesertocopy.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-106WDestaSpearSWcopy.jpg)
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Here is the modernized Victor
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/SuperVictorcopy.jpg)
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Once again you reached a level of awesomeness with the VJ-102.
And of course I never forgot the Re-invented Delta Dart. :)
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that Swedish desert scheme looks very interesting :P
Swedish Phantoms ?? they look neat tho :)
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Love those VJ-102s! And, well, everything looks better in a Swedish splinter scheme :)
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LOVE those Phantoms!!!!!! That Victor is just plain insane, but certainly in a good way 8)
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Many thanks for your comments and support.
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Hello
Here are a two-seat version of the Dora
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190D-25trainercopy.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190D-27Argcopy.jpg)
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And a preview of the work I plan to present for the upcoming GB "30yr tribute to the Falklands War"
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FLKMLV2.jpg)
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And here is a preview for the work I plan to present for the GB "Anything Goes"/"Strut Your Stuff"/"Introductory"
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AF-12.jpg)
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What I can see of it so far is already quite lovely. Looks like it comes out of Talespin!
Cheers,
Logan
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Verrry intriguing GB preview :) And your Dora trainer is great -- especially compared to Focke-Wulf's RW two-seaters ;P Love that Argentine scheme!
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And a preview of the work I plan to present for the upcoming GB "30yr tribute to the Falklands War"
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FLKMLV2.jpg[/url])
Be careful you don't complete it before the GB starts...
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Thanks for the comments
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What I can see of it so far is already quite lovely. Looks like it comes out of Talespin!
Cheers,
Logan
Thank you.
It is an aircraft from my thread The Portuguese Aeronautical Industry.
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Verrry intriguing GB preview :) And your Dora trainer is great -- especially compared to Focke-Wulf's RW two-seaters ;P Love that Argentine scheme!
Thank you; maybe I ill do some more schemes for this aircraft
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And a preview of the work I plan to present for the upcoming GB "30yr tribute to the Falklands War"
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FLKMLV2.jpg[/url])
Be careful you don't complete it before the GB starts...
No problem there; it is still a long way from finishing... ;)
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Here is a two-seat night-fighter version of the FW-190D
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190D-28NFcopy.jpg)
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Oh wow VP that two-seat night-fighter version of the FW-190D looks so right - so real world!!!
Keep them coming!!!
M.A.D
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Lovely :-*
Alex
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Thank you
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The Nachct Dora is superb!!!
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JP, the 190D 2 seater is very stunning.
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Thank you :)
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I like it.....
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VJ-102 FOR THE WIN :-* :icon_alabanza:
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Here is a two-seat night-fighter version of the FW-190D
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190D-28NFcopy.jpg[/url])
Looks better than the one I'm doodling, combining the '190S-8 canopy and cockpits with the /R11 radar on a Fw-190D airframe.
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Thank you all.
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And now my F-105-2000
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/f-105-2000copy.jpg)
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And why not a floatplane Lightning...?
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightningF6FLTcopy-1.jpg)
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I quite like that F-105-2000.
Cheers,
Logan
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Thank you
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The float-Lightning is weird. So surprising balance if one lateral float touches water, would it take off anyway?
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Of course it take of; it was one of the greatest floatplane jet fighters of all times... ;)
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Supersonic float? Wow!
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Yes, a bit tricky on landing though... ;)
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Another one:
A 1950's "F-16"
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-163copycopy.jpg)
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Good, and with a solid canopy against bird crash... :)
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Yes, canopy technology was not what it is today... ;)
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And now a 1960's Rafale
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/RafaleIIIcopy-1.jpg)
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And a modernized F-89:
The F-89-2000 SuperScorpion
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-89-2000copy.jpg)
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And the new F-101
The F-101 VoodooMaster
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-101WVoodooMastercopy.jpg)
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And the new SkyManta
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F4DVSkyMantacopy.jpg)
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Nice stuff all round, but the SkyManta is da bomb! :-* Certainly looks like a contemporary design and not a "warmed-over" 1950s' design. :)
I wonder.... the VoodooMaster with a V-tail?
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Right, nice stuff all around. Have a few F-89 kits and now know kind of build I would like to do.
Thanks for the concepts.
Bill
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I always like the F-94 and F-89 :-*
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I love the Skymanta. :)
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([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-106WDestaSpearSWdesertocopy.jpg[/url])
Love this concept and camo. ;)
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Thank you all
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I wonder.... the VoodooMaster with a V-tail?
That is a very interesting idea; to put on my to-do list: thank you
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Right, nice stuff all around. Have a few F-89 kits and now know kind of build I would like to do.
Thanks for the concepts.
Bill
Thank you. Love to see it in plastic... :)
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([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-106WDestaSpearSWdesertocopy.jpg[/url])
Love this concept and camo. ;)
Thank you; it's the Desert splinter. Maybe some new profiles using this camo will appear... :)
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The voodoo master and skymanta are both very nice, really like the manta a bunch! :)
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And now my F-105-2000
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/f-105-2000copy.jpg[/url])
Nice!! Do it as a two-seater with a F-105C/E canopy.
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G'day VP
I very much like the trapeze launcher on your F-89-2000 Super Scorpion!!
M.A.D
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Thank you all for your comments.
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G'day VP
I very much like the trapeze launcher on your F-89-2000 Super Scorpion!!
M.A.D
Thanks mate. It is JP :)
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The voodoo master and skymanta are both very nice, really like the manta a bunch! :)
Thank you
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And now my F-105-2000
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/f-105-2000copy.jpg[/url])
Nice!! Do it as a two-seater with a F-105C/E canopy.
That is a really good idea; I will do it in a near future; thanks
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And now for two variations of the Swedish splinter camo:
The Desert and the Winter
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/SWLightnings.jpg)
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And the more tropical camo
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/SWLightning3.jpg)
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Niiiiiice Lightnings !
Alex
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Great Lightnings..........
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Thank you
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Winter splinter is particularly cooool 8)
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Thank you.
Since in Sweden Winters are white, why not such a variation of the Splinter Camo...?
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Amazing work.... ;)
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Thank you
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I can see both the desert and tropical splinter-schemed Lightnings flying under UN auspices as peace-keepers in suitable portions of the world (the Sinai and the African jungle) were there's enough conflict to warrant their presence.
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Right, nice stuff all around. Have a few F-89 kits and now know kind of build I would like to do.
Thanks for the concepts.
Bill
Thank you. Love to see it in plastic... :)
Sidewinder-AMRAAM combo on wing tips is touch I like. Obviously has "real" engines to get off ground and climb unlike vintage F-89 with its loooong ground roll. I am thinking F-404, what do you/others think?
Is another bash concept added to my like-to-do list.
Bill
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PW1120 for late models replacing the J79 in earlier ones.
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Thank you for the comments.
The new and improved F-89 would need better engines and I think that those are great for it.
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Hello
The Vought Viper was a dive bomber used by the USAAC in the 1930's.
It is perhaps best known as a forerunner to the more famous Corsair
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/VoughtDB2.jpg)
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Sweet! :)
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And dragging spats are good to reduce the diving speed!
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:)
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That is a really interesting idea! I like the incorporation of the Corsair features! :D
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Thanks for all the comments
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Hello
The Focke-Wulf FW-58 was a 4-seat sports and touring aircraft of the 1930's.
Some of its design features were latter used in the FW-190 fighter
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-59copy.jpg)
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Interesting... I may imagine P-51A predecessor as well, thanks!
EDIT: here is it:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_P-51TR6_azzzzg.jpg)
Thanks again!
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Love the Fw-58.
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Hello
The Vought Viper was a dive bomber used by the USAAC in the 1930's.
It is perhaps best known as a forerunner to the more famous Corsair
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/VoughtDB2.jpg[/url])
My what lovely spats you have there!
:-* :-* :-*
Completely plausible too. Paint it aluminum or yellow and call it a prototype and you'd fool them from here to NAS Cherry Point!
Brian da Basher
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Interesting... I may imagine P-51A predecessor as well, thanks!
EDIT: here is it:
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_P-51TR6_azzzzg.jpg[/url])
Thanks again!
Great ones Tophe
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Hello
The Vought Viper was a dive bomber used by the USAAC in the 1930's.
It is perhaps best known as a forerunner to the more famous Corsair
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/VoughtDB2.jpg[/url])
My what lovely spats you have there!
:-* :-* :-*
Completely plausible too. Paint it aluminum or yellow and call it a prototype and you'd fool them from here to NAS Cherry Point!
Brian da Basher
Now thats an idea worth doing: thanks
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Nice this Vought Viper !
Alex
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Love the Fw-58.
Thanks: I am planning a few more touring/sports ancestors of famous WWII fighter aircraft
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Nice this Vought Viper !
Alex
Thank you Alex
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Love the Fw-58.
Thanks: I am planning a few more touring/sports ancestors of famous WWII fighter aircraft
Looking forward to that!
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And here is another one
The Hawker hare was a British sports/ touring aircraft of the 1930's.
Some of its design features were latter used on the Hawker monoplane (Hurricane).
Some Hares were also used by the military as a observation aircraft
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HawkerHare.jpg)
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Niiice !
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G'day VP
I very much like the trapeze launcher on your F-89-2000 Super Scorpion!!
M.A.D
Thanks mate. It is JP :)
Whoops sorry JP :icon_crap:
M.A.D
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I had just been thinking of doing a series of planes based on famous WWII fighters using components to create touring planes. But I see somebody is doing it far far better than I had imagined mine. Nice work, and thanks for saving me all that time bashing kits!
Excellent Hare, it looks the part.
Alvis 3.1
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That FW and Hawker look awesome! Great work, JP. Really reminds me of the Bf 108 Taifun.
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Really reminds me of the Bf 108 Taifun.
Me thinks that might have been the goal!
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Me thinks that might have been the goal!
As do I. ;)
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Love the Hawker Hare!
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Thanks for all your comments
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G'day VP
I very much like the trapeze launcher on your F-89-2000 Super Scorpion!!
M.A.D
Thanks mate. It is JP :)
Whoops sorry JP :icon_crap:
M.A.D
No problem :)
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I had just been thinking of doing a series of planes based on famous WWII fighters using components to create touring planes. But I see somebody is doing it far far better than I had imagined mine. Nice work, and thanks for saving me all that time bashing kits!
Excellent Hare, it looks the part.
Alvis 3.1
Please don't give up on my account; I really enjoy seeing the plastic creations of other forum members and I hope that you go on with your project.
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Me thinks that might have been the goal!
As do I. ;)
Yes, you're right.
My starting idea was the link between the Bf-108 and the Bf-109 and imagine what-if other WWII fighters had touring/sports "ancestors"...?
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And here is another one
The Hawker hare was a British sports/ touring aircraft of the 1930's.
Some of its design features were latter used on the Hawker monoplane (Hurricane).
Some Hares were also used by the military as a observation aircraft
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HawkerHare.jpg[/url])
My what lovely spats you have there!
:-* :-* :-*
This may be an observation bird, but it is me observing with great delight the streamlined curves of those lovely spats!
:-* :-* :-*
And it certainly looks authentic too!
Brian da Basher
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JP: A Hare variant with a Napier Rapier (à la Fairey Seafox) would look great too!
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Great work, JP! These last sure capture the romanticism and adventure of an era
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([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HawkerHare.jpg[/url])
A later version could be a monoplane with retracts ala the Heston Phoenix.
(http://www.historicaircraft.org/Golden-Age-Gallery/images/Heston-Phoenix.jpg)
(http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac1/austa/vhajm.jpg)
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Thank you all for your comments and suggestions: it really helps developping my work :)
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I had just been thinking of doing a series of planes based on famous WWII fighters using components to create touring planes. But I see somebody is doing it far far better than I had imagined mine. Nice work, and thanks for saving me all that time bashing kits!
Excellent Hare, it looks the part.
Alvis 3.1
Please don't give up on my account; I really enjoy seeing the plastic creations of other forum members and I hope that you go on with your project.
Oh, don't worry, sinceI have a couple hundred projects on the go at any given time, it isn't like they're abandoned, just delayed. :)
ALvis 3.1
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I had just been thinking of doing a series of planes based on famous WWII fighters using components to create touring planes. But I see somebody is doing it far far better than I had imagined mine. Nice work, and thanks for saving me all that time bashing kits!
Excellent Hare, it looks the part.
Alvis 3.1
Please don't give up on my account; I really enjoy seeing the plastic creations of other forum members and I hope that you go on with your project.
Oh, don't worry, sinceI have a couple hundred projects on the go at any given time, it isn't like they're abandoned, just delayed. :)
ALvis 3.1
Glad to hear that :)
Looking forward to see them
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Hawker Hare is a marvel! :-*
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What about a fast post war tourer based upon the Hawker Typhoon or Tempest or even on the Mustang? Or maybe a twin engine civilian transport based upon a P-38 or P-61 or even Me-410?
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What about a fast post war tourer based upon (...) the Mustang? Or maybe a twin engine civilian transport based upon a P-38 (...)?
If JP could apply his talent on these, I'd be delighted... :-*
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What about a fast post war tourer based upon the Hawker Typhoon or Tempest or even on the Mustang? Or maybe a twin engine civilian transport based upon a P-38 or P-61 or even Me-410?
If memory serves me correctly, the Mustang version would resemble something between the Mustang proper and the Navion, likely a Mustang wing with a modified Navion fuselage. Then you could extend this to something analogous to the Twin Navion.
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What about a fast post war tourer based upon (...) the Mustang? Or maybe a twin engine civilian transport based upon a P-38 (...)?
If JP could apply his talent on these, I'd be delighted... :-*
Those are great suggestions: thank you
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What about a fast post war tourer based upon the Hawker Typhoon or Tempest or even on the Mustang? Or maybe a twin engine civilian transport based upon a P-38 or P-61 or even Me-410?
If memory serves me correctly, the Mustang version would resemble something between the Mustang proper and the Navion, likely a Mustang wing with a modified Navion fuselage. Then you could extend this to something analogous to the Twin Navion.
Thanks a lot for your suggestion
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A later version could be a monoplane with retracts ala the Heston Phoenix.
([url]http://www.historicaircraft.org/Golden-Age-Gallery/images/Heston-Phoenix.jpg[/url])
([url]http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac1/austa/vhajm.jpg[/url])
Hmm, so that's where Cessna got the 185RG proposal. Albeit, the Cessna concept used a sponson and a shorter strut.
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My usual visit to your gallery finds the excellence continues!
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Thank you all
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And here is the Tourist/sport version of the Mustang
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Mustangtourer3copy.jpg)
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Oh, nice! :-*
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WOW! I wouldn't have pegged that for a relative of a Mustang until you pointed it out. Very nice. :)
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Beautiful! I'll take it! Bigger brother to the Navion, I take it?
Cheers,
Logan
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Damn, that's gorgeous!!
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Beautiful! I'll take it! Bigger brother to the Navion, I take it?
Cheers,
Logan
I like it - Bigger brother to the Navion
Anyone have a suggestion what engine it would have ?
500-600-700-800-900-1000 HP ?
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Thanks for the comments.
It is a 1950's design with a spacious belly cargo/fuel bay.
As for the engine it has to be perhaps in the 1000hp or more.
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Of course the US Army had some of these NA Appaloosa.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Mustangtourer3copy-1.jpg)
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Alex
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Love the name NA Appaloosa :)
I am thinking of doing one of these but I am going to keep the Merlin and the radiator intake on the belly. Think of it as a high performance tourer..
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WoW ! that Vietnam Mistel is just asking to be built in plastic !! :o
EDIT :- geeze, I accidentally went to page 1 :icon_crap:
Glad I did -- can't believe I missed the first 23 pages of your profiles JP. :-[
excellent stuff !
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Thanks for the comments.
It is a 1950's design with a spacious belly cargo/fuel bay.
As for the engine it has to be perhaps in the 1000hp or more.
Perhaps a large air-cooled IV-12 engine? Say some of the European designers of such engines came over post-WW II and went to work with Ranger to bring out new engines?
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Thanks for the comments :)
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Love the name NA Appaloosa :)
I am thinking of doing one of these but I am going to keep the Merlin and the radiator intake on the belly. Think of it as a high performance tourer..
Thank you.
That should be interesting...can't wait to see it
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WoW ! that Vietnam Mistel is just asking to be built in plastic !! :o
EDIT :- geeze, I accidentally went to page 1 :icon_crap:
Glad I did -- can't believe I missed the first 23 pages of your profiles JP. :-[
excellent stuff !
Oh, the very best works were in the first 23 pages :) ;) just kidding
Glad you enjoy it.
Thank you
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Thanks for the comments.
It is a 1950's design with a spacious belly cargo/fuel bay.
As for the engine it has to be perhaps in the 1000hp or more.
Perhaps a large air-cooled IV-12 engine? Say some of the European designers of such engines came over post-WW II and went to work with Ranger to bring out new engines?
Thats a very interesting idea: thank you
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The Appaloosa is wicked!
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Thank you
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Hello
The Grumman F-17 Wildcat was a single seat version of the Tomcat.
It was sold only to export customers and feature many difference regarding the F-14.
It had a different radar and weapons systems (without the AIM-54) and also new engines.
Germany was one of its users; here we see a modernised aircraft of the Luftwaffe in the late 90's.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-14Gcopy.jpg)
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Hello
The Grumman F-17 Wildcat was a single seat version of the Tomcat.
It was sold only to export customers and feature many difference regarding the F-14.
It had a different radar and weapons systems (without the AIM-54) and also new engines.
Germany was one of its users; here we see a modernised aircraft of the Luftwaffe in the late 90's.
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-14Gcopy.jpg[/url])
I'm actually not a huge fan of the F-14, but this is lovely.
Cheers,
Logan
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The F-17 looks so good,well done JP ! (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/respect/respect-037.gif) (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/respect/respect-048.gif)
Alex
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Well done JP. The single-seat conversion makes a striking difference :)
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Thank you all for your comments.
Althought not new idea for sure, the single-seat Tomcat is really interesting.
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And inspired by the current Stuka discussion and following a suggestion made earlier by Greg, here is the corrugated metal Stuka.
If Junkers had a tradition of using this type of construction on its aircraft, why not use it on the Stuka...?
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/StukaCorrcopy.jpg)
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And inspired by the current Stuka discussion and following a suggestion made earlier by Greg, here is the corrugated metal Stuka.
If Junkers had a tradition of using this type of construction on its aircraft, why not use it on the Stuka...?
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/StukaCorrcopy.jpg[/url])
Oh yeah!
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Single seat F-14 shows particularly well in those colors. Good job.
Stuka passes as perhaps some were corrugated. Those not in the know might bite on it.
What if you corrugated the F-14 ???
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Thanks for the comments
What if you corrugated the F-14 ???
Sorry, perhaps a bit too much what -if for me... ;)
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Or a supersonic Ju-52/3m?
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Or a supersonic Ju-52/3m?
I think it would be supersonic only for a few seconds...before it fell apart ;)
Now for a (subsonic) jet-engined Ju-52, that is another idea... and doable.
Merci
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Hello
Following the new GB Falklands/ malvinas, here are some of my creations:
The Super Pucará was a developement of the IA-58 Pucará featuring a strengthned fuselage, new more powerful engines, new weapons and avionics.
There were two main variants of the Super Pucará, one with only one seat and another with two seats.
Here is an example of a single-seat with pre-war camo (first) and the camo used during and after the war
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/superpucaraIIcopy.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/superpucaraIIC.jpg)
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Looks great !
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Nice! Is that a laser marker/rangefinder in the nose?
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Me likey!!!
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Thank you all for your comments; I am glad you liked it.
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Nice! Is that a laser marker/rangefinder in the nose?
Yes, it is.
The two-seat variant has TV cameras on the nose; the two-seat variant was used as a trainer, armed reconnaissance and FAC among other roles.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/superpucaraIIECMcopy.jpg)
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The two seater looks more "right" somehow
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The two seater looks more "right" somehow
I second that.
Excellent profiles. Enjoying them. :)
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The single seater reminds me of Su-25,and I like it,well done JP !!!
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Alex
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Very nice........ I like it
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The single seater reminds me of Su-25,and I like it,well done JP !!!
([url]http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/respect/respect-013.gif[/url])
Alex
Definitely got a Su-39 look to it.
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Going by the nacelles, would I be correct in assuming (hazardous though it might be) that part of the upgrading to make these beauties was replacing the Astazou engines with late-model PT6A engines? Myself, I'd probably have gone with some of the later TPE331 variants as those would require less nacelle redesign but I can make a good argument either way, especially since the development of electronic engine controls eliminated the slower throtttle response of the eaerlier PT6As in comparison to direct-drive engines like the Astazou and TPE331.
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Thank you all for your comments.
I personally like more the single-seat, but it is really a mater of personal taste.
Feel free to enjoy them all ;)
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Going by the nacelles, would I be correct in assuming (hazardous though it might be) that part of the upgrading to make these beauties was replacing the Astazou engines with late-model PT6A engines? Myself, I'd probably have gone with some of the later TPE331 variants as those would require less nacelle redesign but I can make a good argument either way, especially since the development of electronic engine controls eliminated the slower throtttle response of the eaerlier PT6As in comparison to direct-drive engines like the Astazou and TPE331.
Yes, when designing my version of the Super Pucará, I thought that a higher performance engine like the PT6 (even being somewhat very diferent form the original) would be a great plus to the aircraft. Some of the variants in the order of the 1200 to 1300hp would be a great improvement.
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Hello
Still motivated by the GB Falklands/Malvinas, here is another participant on the conflict: a Royal Marines Harrier; these operated aboard the Amphibious assault ships of the Oceanic Class - (in my alternative 1982 scenario), alongside Sea Harriers of the Royal Navy and Harriers of the RAF
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HarrierRMARINES2copy.jpg)
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Going by the nacelles, would I be correct in assuming (hazardous though it might be) that part of the upgrading to make these beauties was replacing the Astazou engines with late-model PT6A engines? Myself, I'd probably have gone with some of the later TPE331 variants as those would require less nacelle redesign but I can make a good argument either way, especially since the development of electronic engine controls eliminated the slower throtttle response of the eaerlier PT6As in comparison to direct-drive engines like the Astazou and TPE331.
Yes, when designing my version of the Super Pucará, I thought that a higher performance engine like the PT6 (even being somewhat very diferent form the original) would be a great plus to the aircraft. Some of the variants in the order of the 1200 to 1300hp would be a great improvement.
And your later TPE331 versions, the -15 and -16 also fall into that power category. -shrug- A matter of taste, I'd reckon.
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Hello
Here is another participant in the Falklands/Malvinas conflict: the Royal Navy Phantom F.4
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4OPhantomFG4copy.jpg)
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Lovin' this. I especially like the addition of the red stripes to the Harrier. Simple, but effective!
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The Phantom is superb
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Lovin' this. I especially like the addition of the red stripes to the Harrier. Simple, but effective!
Yes, I will eventually come up with Argentinian markings as well
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The Phantom is superb
Thank you :)
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Hello
Lately I have been doing a lot of Falklands/Malvinas aircraft and here is another:
an Argentinian MiG-21
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MiG21copy.jpg)
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I really like the RM Harrier! Any chance of a sandy brown/black one? I saw this documentary of the RMs in Borneo(?) and they had boats in that colour scheme that looked cool!
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I like the RN Phantom...... although I was wondering if it could fit onto the carrier elevator, particularly if we're talking about pre-CVA-01 ones......
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Lovin' this. I especially like the addition of the red stripes to the Harrier. Simple, but effective!
Yes, I will eventually come up with Argentinian markings as well
Markings for Argentinian Harriers, err..Matadors?
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I really like the RM Harrier! Any chance of a sandy brown/black one? I saw this documentary of the RMs in Borneo(?) and they had boats in that colour scheme that looked cool!
Yes, it is possible; do you have any photo of that colour scheme...?
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I like the RN Phantom...... although I was wondering if it could fit onto the carrier elevator, particularly if we're talking about pre-CVA-01 ones......
I think so; in this scenario they operat form modernized Audacious class carriers.
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Lovin' this. I especially like the addition of the red stripes to the Harrier. Simple, but effective!
Yes, I will eventually come up with Argentinian markings as well
Markings for Argentinian Harriers, err..Matadors?
I was really talking about distinctive markings for the Argentinian aircraft in that TO; not really on Argentinian Harriers :)
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I really like the RM Harrier! Any chance of a sandy brown/black one? I saw this documentary of the RMs in Borneo(?) and they had boats in that colour scheme that looked cool!
Yes, it is possible; do you have any photo of that colour scheme...?
http://defense-update.com/20100816_pacscat_landing_craft.html (http://defense-update.com/20100816_pacscat_landing_craft.html)
Although I remember the brown being a bit lighter.
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Ok, thank you.
I will see what I can do.
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Lovin' this. I especially like the addition of the red stripes to the Harrier. Simple, but effective!
Yes, I will eventually come up with Argentinian markings as well
Markings for Argentinian Harriers, err..Matadors?
I was really talking about distinctive markings for the Argentinian aircraft in that TO; not really on Argentinian Harriers :)
Pity, especially since the Harrier was demonstrated to the Argentinian military in 1970 and a buy by them would not be unrealistic. 'Twould make for interesting IFF problems over the islands.
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Yes, but an Argentinain Harrier was alrready done:
Check the excellent work of Coops in his Thread
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=24.105 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=24.105)
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Hello
The US Armed forces needed a light aircraft that could fulfill some different missions; one of the requirements was that the aircraft could and take off vertically but also had a reasonable flight speed to reduce transit times.
Bell proposed the OV-25 Grasshopper and that was the winning design.
It entered service with all the branches of the US military and was also exported.
The Grasshopper was used as a reconnaissance, battlefield surveillance, FAC, medevac and other roles.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/BellOV-25.jpg)
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Is cute this little fellow :-*
Alex
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I love this OV-25 :-*
Is it twin-boom with a tailplane or single boom without tailplane?
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Thank you.
Tophe: this is a twin-boom with tailplane.
I am using this design to produce my first 3D aircraft.
Here are some test shots (still roughs as I am learning to use the programe and the aircraft is not finished yet)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ov251.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ov253.jpg)
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Looking good.
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Wow! :-* :-* :-*
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Thanks!
It has been both fun and challenging to learn to use this 3D program.
I hope to present soon a better version of this aircraft
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Hello
still motivated by the GB, here is another aircraft of my 1982 scenario:
The Mirage F-1MA served aboard the aircraft carrier ARA 25 de Mayo and was tasked mainly with interception roles.
Here is one example as it look like in that conflict.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1MAcopy.jpg)
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This is callig for a pair of Exocet.
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Thank you.
Here are some more wip for the 3D model of the OV-25
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/aws.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/asde.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/arf3.jpg)
This is just a learning model and so it will not feature high-end texturing and other more advance stuff, just doying it to learn some basic 3D skills :)
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That F-1 :-*
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Hello
here is another wip image of my 3D model
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/wert.jpg)
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That F-1 :-*
Thank you.
Here are the two carrier-based inteceptor types face to face, each with their adopted operational markings
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MiragevsPhantom.jpg)
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:-* love it !!!
Alex
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Thank you.
I have been dedicating more of my time to learn a 3D program, so no more profiles right away (or until I need a break from learning that program ;) ).
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:-* love it !!!
Yeah, both the 'face off' and the chance to compare recognition markings. Nice!
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Thank you.
Here is another face-to-face; this time between the VTOL aircraft used by both sides
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/VTOLface.jpg)
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Nice!
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Oh, that Yak is tempting to model!!!
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Oh, that Yak is tempting to model!!!
Yeah, it's a gorgeous scheme. Nice to see another face-off :)
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Nice! :)
One thing about this face-off, though, is that the Yak-38 lacks an air-defense stablemate......
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The face-offs are great! 8)
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Nice! :)
One thing about this face-off, though, is that the Yak-38 lacks an air-defense stablemate......
So add the mods to produce the proposed Yak-39 with radar. It had a refined wing, three lift engines, a more powerful main engine, and radar. The "Red Star" book on Yakolev's vstols has good info on it.
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Yes, why not a face to face of both aircraft's fighter versions...?
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FVTOL.jpg)
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Nice!
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Indeed. That Yak looks the business doesn't it? :)
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It does indeed! :)
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Thank you all for your commnets.
Sorry for the late repply... been learning a new 3D program and have little time for anything else.
Perhaps some more wiffs in the near future.
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Hello
Here is a radial engined Hurricane
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Hawkercurtisscopy.jpg)
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Outstanding!!! Need more versions - Desert? Far East? Shipboard?
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Hello Greg
Thank you.
I think I can manage a couple more... ;)
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Looks great
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Thank you.
Here is another one
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Hawkercurtissfrcopy.jpg)
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Put a Hinamaru on the side and weather the crap out of it and you'd have a plane that would probably fool a lot of people! I don't know why but its screams Japanese to me with that radial on the front. Am I nuts? ???
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For some reason I think Bristol when I see it
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Put a Hinamaru on the side and weather the crap out of it and you'd have a plane that would probably fool a lot of people! I don't know why but its screams Japanese to me with that radial on the front. Am I nuts? ???
If you are, then I am also nuts ;) that idea is great
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For some reason I think Bristol when I see it
Any model in particular...?
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And now for a Dutch one
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HawkercurtissHolcopy.jpg)
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For some reason I think Bristol when I see it
Any model in particular...?
Nope, just a feeling really
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Snazzy! The Dutch one in particular!
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Snazzy! The Dutch one in particular!
Yep! That looks great in a Dutch scheme :)
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And now for a Dutch one
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HawkercurtissHolcopy.jpg[/url])
Marvellous one! regards Lauhof :P
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That really looks the part as Dutch. It looks very much like some offshoot of the Koolhoven F.K. 58
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Snazzy! The Dutch one in particular!
Agreed!
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Thanks for the comments. It has been really fun to do these :)
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And here is one of the suggestion: a Japanese one
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/KiJPcopy.jpg)
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The livery looks very natural on the radial Hurri
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Yeah, it looks really right, even though it really shouldn't!
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YES!!!!! Now it needs to carry one of those really splotchy green paint jobs with the aluminum showing through all over 8)
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Beautiful profiles!
Since it's a Japanese radial Hurri, you could probably get away with leaving off the sliding portion of the canopy. Or maybe a C.200 Saetta-style semi-open canopy?
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Oh yeah!!!
How about some RAAF or RNZAF ones?
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Thanks for the comments and suggestions: good ideas for future ones.
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Here is one derived from one suggestion (ChernayaAkula): a more retro Japanese one
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HawkercurtissJPIIcopy.jpg)
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Oh yeah!!!
How about some RAAF or RNZAF ones?
Sure, here is a CA Dingo
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/CAdingocopy.jpg)
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:)
Maybe one with the olive green/white tail type scheme next???
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Yeeeey,nice Hurri's JP,I like them all :-*
...if you have the time and you are in the mood,could you do a Romanian one,with roundels?
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<...> a more retro Japanese one
Brilliant! Looks really convincing, doesn't it.
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Great! :-*
Could you add asymmetric Twin-Hurricanes profiles? port in-line starboard radial (or else: opposite)
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Thank you all for your comments and sugestions
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:)
Maybe one with the olive green/white tail type scheme next???
Sure, can you, please, provide an example of it...?
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Yeeeey,nice Hurri's JP,I like them all :-*
...if you have the time and you are in the mood,could you do a Romanian one,with roundels?
Thank you.
Here is the IAR-72 Balaur (is this the correct word for dragon / griffin...?)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/IAR72Balaur.jpg)
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Great! :-*
Could you add asymmetric Twin-Hurricanes profiles? port in-line starboard radial (or else: opposite)
Thank you. But I am not sure what exactly you want...? can you, please, provide more details?
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And here's one with floats
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/iar74sea2copy.jpg)
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Float fighters really float my boat - that looks great! :D
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Thank you.
Here is the IAR-72 Balaur (is this the correct word for dragon / griffin...?)
Waaaw thank you so much JP,both look great...a Hurri built under license,nice !!! :-*
Indeed balaur means dragon in romanian
Alex
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Nice Romanian ones.
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Thank you all for your comments :)
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:)
Maybe one with the olive green/white tail type scheme next???
Here it is :)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/CAdingo2.jpg)
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Perfect!!! :) Thank you. That might just get modelled one day.
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Could you make a Yugoslav version?
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In case anyone is interested in doing models of these:
(http://www.omega-models.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/c2408434b7f2b05b42dafb14f15a3d7e.jpg)
(http://www.omega-models.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/f4bb7d7d2e72df64640bc379d28d3770.jpg)
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Great! :-*
Could you add asymmetric Twin-Hurricanes profiles? port in-line starboard radial (or else: opposite)
Thank you. But I am not sure what exactly you want...? can you, please, provide more details?
I show you with Mustangs: Radial-one then asymmetric twins half-radial:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P-51TR6_bzzzzt.JPG)
Can you do the same with your Hurricanes (better, your way)? Thanks!
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Hello Tophe
Here is one of them; You have to imagine all that is not shown, but that is not a problem for you... ;)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/assimetrichurricopy.jpg)
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Could you make a Yugoslav version?
Here you go
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HawkercurtissYugocopy.jpg)
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Hello Tophe
Here is one of them; You have to imagine all that is not shown, but that is not a problem for you... ;)
Thanks a lot, JP... ;)
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Thanks JP, I wonder why Zmaj didn´t get this idea as they were fond of sticking different engines on licensed aircraft
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I have tried imagining more precisely:
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The radial Hurris continue to impress! :-*
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Thanks for all your comments and sugestions
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Hello
The Hawker Hurricane VI was one of the last modernisation programs of the Hurricane
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/hurricaneexpcopy.jpg)
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There was also a two-seat training version of the radial Hurricane
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/NAT-7copy.jpg)
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:) :)
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Thank you :)
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Hello
The Hawker Hail is rightfully considered the direct ancestor of the famous Hurricane
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HawkerHailcopy.jpg)
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:)
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:)
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:)
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Hello
The Gloster Genet was a latter develpment of the famous Gladiator: it was a monoplane, with a more powerful engine and other improvements.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/GlosterGenet.jpg)
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I quite like that. :)
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Love the Genet!
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Thank you.
A new development soon: the Gloster Grackle
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Hello
The Gloster Grackle was a further development ot the monoplane Galdiator, featuring a retractable main landing gear, a new engine and other improvements
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/GlosterGracklecopy.jpg)
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Man! did someone say Gloster/Seversky joint project?
That is some coolness! :)
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:)
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That is nice! Do one with a bubble canopy? The British P-47. :) 8)
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This looks great JP, :)
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Nice! The small wing/round body is reminiscent of the Ki 44 "Tojo"
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It looks so right! Love this series of Hurricanes man 8)
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This biplane -> monoplane evolution is totally awesome! 8)
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Many thanks to all.
It has been really fun to make this evolution from biplane to monoplane; maybe I will do it to other aircraft... ;)
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Hello
With a retractable landing gear, powerful engine and weapons alongside other improvements, the Fokker D.21X was a major improvement over the D.21.
It served in the fight over the Netherlands in 1940, proving to be a match to the Luftwaffe fighter force.
Some of them escaped to the UK and served in the RAF in the Battle of Britain until replaced by newer aircraft.
The D.21X also served in the East Indies against invading Japanese forces and from Australia from then on.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/D-22multicopy.jpg)
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:) :) :)
Now...do a floatplane version...please!!!!
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Good,good aaaand good :)
These machines have survived till the D-Day?If so,it deserves some black and white stripes.
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:) :) :)
Now...do a floatplane version...please!!!!
And I'm thinking of pairing that concept with a seaplane cruiser again...... >:D
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Pleasant D.XXI X, thanks.
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Many thanks for all your comments.
Really fun to do these: perhpas some more versions in the near future... ;)
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:) :) :)
Now...do a floatplane version...please!!!!
Sure, here you go
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FokkerD22Fltcopy.jpg)
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Good,good aaaand good :)
These machines have survived till the D-Day?If so,it deserves some black and white stripes.
I think I can manage that; thanks for the suggestion :)
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:) :) :)
Now...do a floatplane version...please!!!!
And I'm thinking of pairing that concept with a seaplane cruiser again...... >:D
Looking forward to see it :)
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Good,good aaaand good :)
These machines have survived till the D-Day?If so,it deserves some black and white stripes.
Here you go; thanks for the suggestion :)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FokkerD22DDaycopy.jpg)
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WOW!!! 8)
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...And thanks again JP!
Me likey !!!
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Thanks for the comments :)
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Hello
The first versions of the Bf-109 used radial engines
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Bf109Acopy.jpg)
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I has proof!!!
(http://www.germanaircraftwwii.com/img/upload/tghfdtghgt.jpg)
(http://www.germanaircraftwwii.com/img/upload/srgfrgagtserth.jpg)
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See... I only post what is real ;)
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Hello
The BAC Lightning T.12 was a two seat variant used not only for training /conversion but also in ECM and other support roles
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightT12copy.jpg)
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That Lightning is cool!
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See... I only post what is real ;)
I know...none of that fantasy crap here. ;) ;D
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Ooo, that Lightning T.12 is nice! I can just see it festooned with emitters, chaff pods, etc., for the spoofing role :)
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See... I only post what is real ;)
I know...none of that fantasy crap here. ;) ;D
I can just see it festooned with emitters, chaff pods, etc., for the spoofing role
So it is REAL .... or have I been spoofed ? ???
anyone got a spare 1/72nd (or maybe a 1/48th) canopy ?
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Thanks to all for your comments :)
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See... I only post what is real ;)
I know...none of that fantasy crap here. ;) ;D
Right, We must grow up and stop doing silly things ;)
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See... I only post what is real ;)
I know...none of that fantasy crap here. ;) ;D
I can just see it festooned with emitters, chaff pods, etc., for the spoofing role
So it is REAL .... or have I been spoofed ? ???
Of course its real; that is a real photo of it ;)
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Ooo, that Lightning T.12 is nice! I can just see it festooned with emitters, chaff pods, etc., for the spoofing role :)
Like this one...?
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightSEADcopy.jpg)
A two-seater version in a SEAD mission
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Wow! :-*
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Oooooh! Very fetching indeed! :-*
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Thank you for your comments
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Hello
The Royal Navy used some of its two-seater Sea Lightnings in the air refuelling role
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/SeaLightcopy.jpg)
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Hello
The BAe Super Sea Lightning was the main Royal Navy interceptor well into the 1970's and early 1980's
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/sealightf15copy-1.jpg)
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Love the double canopies, JP! They really bring a radical look to this magnificent bird!
Brian da Basher
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Radical is right! :o
Love it! :-*
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Amazing graphic and concepts. Wonder how a lightning would look morphed to a flying boat? ???
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Thanks all for your comments :)
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Amazing graphic and concepts. Wonder how a lightning would look morphed to a flying boat? ???
I allready done a floatplane Lightnign some time ago (page 30 of this thread http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=15.435 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=15.435)).
But following your suggestion (thank you) here is a more flying boat version of the (Super Sea) Lightning
Kiribati
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/sealightflt2copy.jpg)
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And here is a top view of the Super Sea lightning
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/SuperLightningcopy.jpg)
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Kiribati Defence Forces - absolutely brilliant!!
Brian da Basher
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Your Sea-Lightning is wonderfully completing José's Mirage F1H :-* :-*
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Like this one...?
Nope. That's waaay better than what I had in mind ;D Love the IFR and Sea Lightnings too!
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Love it, the flying boat version would have plenty of volume for fuel too. Maybe an amphibious version would become the ultimate production long range strike fighter variant.
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Very very nice JP. :)
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Thanks for all your comments :)
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Hello
And somewhere over the Pacific ...
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/sealightflt2copy-1.jpg)
There was also some new equipment developed for the amphibious Super Lightnings, such as conformal fuel tanks
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Looks great. Like your air refuel scene graphic, very realistic.
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even better than Real...
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That has got to be the craziest thing I have ever seen but it looks fantastic!
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Thanks to all :)
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Hello
The Grumman F-17 Wildcat was a single seat version of the Tomcat.
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-14Gcopy.jpg[/url])
Oh very nice!!
Any chance of you incorporating a similar single-seat cockpit arrangement for a WhatIf McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom 2000???
M.A.D
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Hello
Sorry but I haven't got much spare time latelly (haven't update this thread for some 3 motnhs) because I am learning new skills (3D programs and figure drawing).
Perhaps when I came back to the what-if world.
Best regards
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Hello
Just to upload an oldie: a very simple FW-190D Jet conversion
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190DJetcopy.jpg)
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Nice! Welcome back... and thanks for taking the time to produce pictures for our enjoyment.
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Very nice!! :D
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Hello
Just to upload an oldie: a very simple FW-190D Jet conversion
Looks more plausible than Focke-Wulf's Fw-190TL design with a very simple turboject engine.
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:)
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Thanks to all for your comments.
As I said, I am very busy learning a lot of new technicques and hadn't had much tiem to anything else.
This one was a rather older profile still not published; glad you enjoy it.
Best regards
JP Vieira
PS: I have also made a small aviation art portfolio (.pdf) that you can view and download at my website at http://ilustro.webs.com/apps/documents/ (http://ilustro.webs.com/apps/documents/)
It also has some of my what-if works there
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Oh very nice!!
Any chance of you incorporating a similar single-seat cockpit arrangement for a WhatIf McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom 2000???
M.A.D
I'm going with a simpler approach to that, going back to the original flat Phantom II canopy and making the aft cockpit into a covered electronics bay much as is done with the single-seat F-15 variants. It's not perfect, but it's easily do-able, especially if crossed with the blown, frameless windscreen fitted to some late-model F-4s.
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Hello
taking a break from my learning and by popular demand, here is a single seat Phantom.
Best regards to all
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4Ecopy.jpg)
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Beautiful! :-* Thank you!
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Beautiful Phantom. What canopy did you use for the Wildcat and single-seat Phantom, they do look to be the same canopy and windscreen.
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Thank you; glad you liked it
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Beautiful Phantom. What canopy did you use for the Wildcat and single-seat Phantom, they do look to be the same canopy and windscreen.
Thank you; yes, it is the same canopy/windscreen. It was created "from scratch" to fit the Wildcat/Tomcat fuselage as a single seater... and I think it looks great also on the Phantom ;)
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Beautiful Phantom. What canopy did you use for the Wildcat and single-seat Phantom, they do look to be the same canopy and windscreen.
Thank you; yes, it is the same canopy/windscreen. It was created "from scratch" to fit the Wildcat/Tomcat fuselage as a single seater... and I think it looks great also on the Phantom ;)
Ah, thank you. I was just wondering what I'd need to model this in 1/72. I'll admit to being tempted to try a "Silent Wildcat" variation to go with my "Silent Tomcat"
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Beautiful Phantom. What canopy did you use for the Wildcat and single-seat Phantom, they do look to be the same canopy and windscreen.
Thank you; yes, it is the same canopy/windscreen. It was created "from scratch" to fit the Wildcat/Tomcat fuselage as a single seater... and I think it looks great also on the Phantom ;)
Ah, thank you. I was just wondering what I'd need to model this in 1/72. I'll admit to being tempted to try a "Silent Wildcat" variation to go with my "Silent Tomcat"
Perhaps an F-15 canopy...?
The silent Wildcat would be great to see ;)
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And a canard equiped single-seat Phantom
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4Ecopy-1.jpg)
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And a canard equiped single-seat Phantom
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4Ecopy-1.jpg[/url])
Verrrry nice! 8)
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Thank you :)
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Looks great!
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Canard was a great idea! Your work is always top notch. :)
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Thank you for your comments.
One of my first profiles was a canard Phantom, some years ago...
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Hello
Some of my earlier work on the Soviet Navy's aircraft-carrier force
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MiG-26perfilcarr.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Yak-145perfilUS.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/An-55perfil1.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/An-50perfil1.jpg)
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pleasant, thanks for posting. :)
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Neat. I like the Yak-145 and An-55, especially.
Cheers,
Logan
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Thnak you for your comments :)
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I really like the RM Harrier! Any chance of a sandy brown/black one? I saw this documentary of the RMs in Borneo(?) and they had boats in that colour scheme that looked cool!
Yes, it is possible; do you have any photo of that colour scheme...?
[url]http://defense-update.com/20100816_pacscat_landing_craft.html[/url] ([url]http://defense-update.com/20100816_pacscat_landing_craft.html[/url])
Although I remember the brown being a bit lighter.
Here is one request I did not posted at the time (althought it was done)
Here it is (with only 6 months of delay... ;)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HarrierRmARINESborcopy.jpg)
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Hello
The Soviet naval aviation received their first special-version MiG-15s in 1952 and used them aboard the Crimean Class Aircraft carriers
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MiG-15bisacarr.jpg)
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The F-4 looks cooly Viggen-esque and the Mig 15 is very well done. Nice stuff.
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JP, love all the russian navy birds, and that harrier is awesome! :)
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So how will you fold the wings on your MiG-15? Fold over the top like the Panther and others or sideways like the Avenger and Hellcat? Either way would be interesting to see and your location of the tail hook on your MiG looks perfect. Thanks for the inspiration.
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I really like the RM Harrier! Any chance of a sandy brown/black one? I saw this documentary of the RMs in Borneo(?) and they had boats in that colour scheme that looked cool!
Yes, it is possible; do you have any photo of that colour scheme...?
[url]http://defense-update.com/20100816_pacscat_landing_craft.html[/url] ([url]http://defense-update.com/20100816_pacscat_landing_craft.html[/url])
Although I remember the brown being a bit lighter.
Here is one request I did not posted at the time (althought it was done)
Here it is (with only 6 months of delay... ;)
Gorgeous and very much worth the wait. Any chance of a Harrier II (Harrier GR. 5/7/9) in a similar scheme? Or, failing that, a Harrier GR.3A (GR.3 with the LIDS on the gunpods and such from the AV-8C)?
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Love the Russian Navy profiles
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Love the MiG-15K
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Yes, that naval MiG is very tasty :) For wing folds, what about straight up like the Grumman Cougar?
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That's a most attractie MiG-15K. For wing folds, how about straight up just outboard of a wing fence; you've got a good place there for the hinge structure.
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That bare metal MiG soon would have a lot of issues conected with using it on sea. Maybe another profile, "later colours", painted with grey, overall blue, or blue/gray colours? I know they would look similar to RN and USN colour, but I'm sure that you can add some "soviet twist" into it.
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I am planning a MiG-17K
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Thanks a lot for your comments.
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Concerning the wing-fold on the MiG-15, I think a hinge paralel to the outer wing fence is the most pratical, as suggested by elmayerle.
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To the requests made for modifications to the posted profiles, I must appologise, but anything other than a small change I am not able to do at the moment (lack of time); in this I include the great suggestions made by Jeremak concerning a painted MiG-15K (that would required a lot of changes - in shadows and higlights) and Elmayerle for a Harrier II.
I thank you for your suggestion and maybe in the near future I can produced them.
Sorry and Thank you :)
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I am planning a MiG-17K
That would be great to see.
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And another one finished some time ago (but not yet posted)
What-if the The IDF-AF continue to use French aircraft...?
Here is a Mirage F-1CIS
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1CJcopy.jpg)
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Looks great and very natural in that scheme
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Very nice. I wonder, if the Israelis had continued to buy French, would the Mirage F-1C-M53 have happened anyway?
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Very nice. I wonder, if the Israelis had continued to buy French, would the Mirage F-1C-M53 have happened anyway?
Or even the Kfir being based on the F-1C-M53 instead of the Mirage 5, with a P&W F100 instead of GE J-79 and Sparrow matched to a suitable radar. It would have made an interesting export to Argentina instead of the Daggers.
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Thank you for your comments and suggestions
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Very nice. I wonder, if the Israelis had continued to buy French, would the Mirage F-1C-M53 have happened anyway?
Or even the Kfir being based on the F-1C-M53 instead of the Mirage 5, with a P&W F100 instead of GE J-79 and Sparrow matched to a suitable radar. It would have made an interesting export to Argentina instead of the Daggers.
Thank you; your suggestion inspired this Kfir-F-1
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1kfirarg2-1.jpg)
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That's different.
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Thank you
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Hello
I really like the F-16, but I feel that if the different operators were a bit more imaginative in their liveries, perhaps it would be more interesting.
And so here is a camo F-16
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/DiferentesCamosF-16Bcopy.jpg)
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:)
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Very cool aircraft, have you pondered a twin engined Israeli mirage III?
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Thank you for your comments
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Very cool aircraft, have you pondered a twin engined Israeli mirage III?
No, but that is very interesting; perhaps a development of the Mirage III as a bigger, long-range interceptor ( abit like the Mirage IV but for the air defence role); thanks for the suggestion
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And another F-16 with camo (this was surelly done before, but I just love them both- the aircraft and the camo)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/DiferentesCamosf-16bSWcopy.jpg)
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Looks great, but man it reminds of how old I am getting. I actually remember the drawings of F-16, F-18 & F-20 in splinter camo in all the papers when the Viggen replacements were discussed....
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Love the Kfir-F-1! How about a version with dihedral on the canards?
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Thank you for your comments
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Looks great, but man it reminds of how old I am getting. I actually remember the drawings of F-16, F-18 & F-20 in splinter camo in all the papers when the Viggen replacements were discussed....
Yes, I understand what you're saying... ;)
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Love the Kfir-F-1! How about a version with dihedral on the canards?
Thank you for the suggestion; it's in the to do list :)
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And for the moment, another camo Viper
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/DiferentesCamosf-16bSA2.jpg)
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Maybe also some retro RNZAF F-16s...
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Maybe also some retro RNZAF F-16s...
And why only one RNZAF scheme...?
How about 3...?
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F16NZ2.jpg)
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And What-if Croatia received Pahntoms and painted one of them in the checker scheme...?
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4CRTcopy.jpg)
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:) :)
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And What-if Croatia received Pahntoms and painted one of them in the checker scheme...?
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4CRTcopy.jpg[/url])
Considering that Germany offered Phantoms to croatia that may be a profetic profile
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I did a Gripen in that scheme many moons ago.
Cheers,
Logan
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And What-if Croatia received Pahntoms and painted one of them in the checker scheme...?
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4CRTcopy.jpg[/url])
Considering that Germany offered Phantoms to croatia that may be a profetic profile
Thank you; yes that was my inspiration for doying this one
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I did a Gripen in that scheme many moons ago.
Cheers,
Logan
In what scheme? The Swedish splinter...?
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I did a Gripen in that scheme many moons ago.
In what scheme? The Swedish splinter...?
No, the Croatian checker. That was one of my first profiles.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Gripen/900px/CroatianSaabGripen2Small.png)
Cheers,
Logan
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Thanks Logan, that looks great
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And two more Phantoms
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4OSTcopy2.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4Queniacopy.jpg)
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Nice Rhinos!
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Thank you; perhaps some more soon...
Any sugestions as to the future color schemes for the Phantoms...?
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I would love to see a Phantom in German WW1 Lozenge camouflage
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North Korean? Jordanian? Afghan? Libyan? Indonesian? Singaporean? Malaysian?
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Thanks for your suggestions.
Here is the First German Lozenge
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4Luftwcopy.jpg)
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Thanks JP, it does look great
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:)
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Thank you :)
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And here is one of the other suggestions
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4RJAFcopy.jpg)
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I want to see someone have a go at modelling that Lozenge one in plastic...
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I love how that WWI lozenge camouflage blends into a lo-viz scheme :)
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Nice Jordanian one. I picture these being very similar to the F-4F and only flying with Sidewinders.
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for the f-4 ,rotate it 90degrees, please.lozenge
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The Jordanian one is pretty sweet!
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The Lozenge F-4 is really cool
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Thanks for all the comments.
Perhaps I will do a new version of the lozenge scheme incorporating the suggestions
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And what-if Aeronavale choose the Phantom instead of the Crusader...?
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4aeronavalecopy.jpg)
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And what-if Aeronavale choose the Phantom instead of the Crusader...?
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4aeronavalecopy.jpg[/url])
That's attractive, though I don't know that the gun-nosed Phantom was ever carrier-qualified; it'll do for a whif. I'm thinking the outboard wing hardpoints would look good carrying the combined fuel tank/bomb racks used by Mirage IIIs and Vs or, for when you need to really pound a specific ground target, the combined rocket pods/fuel tanks that MATRA makes (Mirage IIIs and export Lightnings use them) combined with standard MATRA pods on TERs on the inner wing hardpoints.
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Maybe reengined with ATARs?
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Thanks for the comments :)
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And here is another one with some of your suggestions; thank you
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4aeronavale2.jpg)
That rocket pod/fuel tank has always amazed me and this was a great excuse to do one; thank you
And it has new engines also; thank you
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And here is another one with some of your suggestions; thank you
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4aeronavale2.jpg[/url])
That rocket pod/fuel tank has always amazed me and this was a great excuse to do one; thank you
And it has new engines also; thank you
Now that looks definitely wicked. A pair of Atar 09Ks would do nicely in place of the J79s and certainly look the part here. It makes you wonder about an alternate British Phantom with upgraded Avon 300s (Avon 400s?) replacing the J79s).
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When you mentioned Phantom & Crusader, for some reason I pictured a Templar F-4....
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Oooo, that Aeronavale Phantom look so right!
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Thank you for your comments
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Hello
The Hail was perhaps the most radical atemp by Hawker to modernise the Hurricane.
If featured an all-metal fuselage, with a new engine and canopy arrangement.
Despiste some promising improvements over the Hurricane it remained only as a prototype.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/hawkerhail2copy.jpg)
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Love that new canopy -- very sleek!
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That Aeronavale Phantom looks great!
I wonder it there would be clearance under a Phantom for a pair of AS.30 missiles
A load of Matra Beluga cluster bombs or Durandal anti runway bombs would also look great on it.
If we're staying with it in place of the Crusader as air to air primarily; Matra R.530s would look mean it there was ground clearance for them.
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Yep, that Hail is very pretty. Always loved the Hurricane.
Cheers,
Logan
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Thanks for the comments :)
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That Aeronavale Phantom looks great!
(...)
If we're staying with it in place of the Crusader as air to air primarily; Matra R.530s would look mean it there was ground clearance for them.
Yes, initially they did; however soon they started using the Matra Mage, a radar guided version of the Magic ;)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4aeronavale4.jpg)
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Love the Hail JP :-* :)
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The Hail is a real beauty! :)
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I like your Hail also :-*
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Thanks for your comments.
The Hail failled to see frontline service but several prototypes were used in test programs
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The carrier version of the Hail, the Sea Hail (very imaginative I know ;) ), fared a little better then its land-based brother; some of them entered service with the Royal Navy, althought did not enjoyed a long service life.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/hawkerseaHailcopy.jpg)
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I like the Sea Hail -- would the Americans buy her for the fleet, calling it the Sea Sleet ?? ???
How about a sleeker Tempest-style cowling ?
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Yes, the production Sea Hail featured a diferent front fuselage.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/hawkerseaHailcopy-1.jpg)
The Americans did not use the Sea Hail (or the Sea Sleet ;) )
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Hello
In the last issue of "Mais Alto" magazine (the Mágazine of the Força Aérea Portuguesa) there is the first part of a very interesting article about the (almost) buy by Portugal of Mirage IIIs.
It features also a great what-if profile of the Mirage IIIEPL (the proposed version for Portugal) by fellow artist Paulo Alegria.
Inspired by that article (and profile) I propose another what-if: a Phantom in FAP colour and used in the Colonial Wars.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4PLcopy.jpg)
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That's very cool!
The long nose phantom actually looks pretty good with the gun deleted. It kind of has that "swoopy" nose like the F-111.
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I agree. That's quite nice.
Cheers,
Logan
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Thanks for the comments
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If there is one think I really like are those artist interpretations of the Cold War.
When the MiG-29 was only known from blurry satelite pictures, there were a lot of artist interpretations of the aircraft.
Here is a DDR aircraft based on one of those early interpretations; at the time it was also speculated that the Fulcrum used the AA-9...
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MiG-29ddrcopy.jpg)
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Funny "real mistake"...
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I love 'real whif' concepts!
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([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MiG-29ddrcopy.jpg[/url])
Thats great!! :)
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Hello
In the last issue of "Mais Alto" magazine (the Mágazine of the Força Aérea Portuguesa) there is the first part of a very interesting article about the (almost) buy by Portugal of Mirage IIIs.
It features also a great what-if profile of the Mirage IIIEPL (the proposed version for Portugal) by fellow artist Paulo Alegria.
Inspired by that article (and profile) I propose another what-if: a Phantom in FAP colour and used in the Colonial Wars.
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4PLcopy.jpg[/url])
Do we have a profile for the FAP Dassault Mirage by Paulo Alegria here?
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Thank you for your comments
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Hello
In the last issue of "Mais Alto" magazine (the Mágazine of the Força Aérea Portuguesa) there is the first part of a very interesting article about the (almost) buy by Portugal of Mirage IIIs.
It features also a great what-if profile of the Mirage IIIEPL (the proposed version for Portugal) by fellow artist Paulo Alegria.
Inspired by that article (and profile) I propose another what-if: a Phantom in FAP colour and used in the Colonial Wars.
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4PLcopy.jpg[/url])
Do we have a profile for the FAP Dassault Mirage by Paulo Alegria here?
Yes, I spoke to Paulo and he agreed to have it posted here; here it is
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/mirageIIEPL.jpg)
This profile was published in the last issue of Mais Alto magazine.
More of Paulo's works can be found at his blog at http://templarsquadron.blogspot.pt/ (http://templarsquadron.blogspot.pt/)
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Very nice. A shame it was not used in the FAP.
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Yes, I think it woujld be great for the FAP.
And what-if it was used and later on modernised...?
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/mirageIIIEPLMcopy.jpg)
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That would work too.
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Thank you.
Here is an interceptor version of it
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/mirageIIIEPLM2copy.jpg)
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Hello
In the last issue of "Mais Alto" magazine (the Mágazine of the Força Aérea Portuguesa) there is the first part of a very interesting article about the (almost) buy by Portugal of Mirage IIIs.
It features also a great what-if profile of the Mirage IIIEPL (the proposed version for Portugal) by fellow artist Paulo Alegria.
Inspired by that article (and profile) I propose another what-if: a Phantom in FAP colour and used in the Colonial Wars.
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-4PLcopy.jpg[/url])
I came back and took yet another look at this. Am I interpreting it correctly as having the length of a F-4E but with a larger radar and no internal gun? It's a beautiful pic and I'm trying to figure out how to model it.
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Thank you.
Yes, this is basically the F-4E without the canon pod on the nose.
Hope you model it soon ... :)
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Lovin' the Rhino and Mirages!
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Thank you.
Even it is a very simple color scheme, I do think plkanes look good in this all green scheme; perhaps some more some time soon.
But for now back to my 3D lessons... ;)
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The wingtip-mounted SRAAM kinda changed the feel of the upgraded Mirage...... positively :)
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Thank you for the comments; the wingtip aam does make it look more modern
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Hello
I am spending many hours learning 3D programs; as a learning project i am doing a version of an aircraft I posted here before; a tilt-rotor general purpose support aircraft,the OV-30
Here are some test shots of it (almost done with the modelling phase)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ov30op-1.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ov3040.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV3034.jpg)
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Looks too delicate for military work.
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Interesting - what sort of propulsion is planned?
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Thanks for the comments.
jschmus: The combat record of the OV-30 speaks for itself ;)
Greg: its a tilt-rotor as the V-22 (the engines are almost done :)
Here is a 3 view of it (minus the engines ;) )
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV303vistascopy.jpg)
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Looking good.
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Very intriguing ... and great lines!
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Thanks!
It has been really rewarding learning the 3D modelling (althought very demanding)
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Just a little experimenting with textures and maps (a bit crude yet); here it is with some parts "painted" in the Swedish Desert Splinter camo
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/V-30SWD.jpg)
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Very beautiful... Belated congratulations! :-*
(I am happy that you started your 3D-tries with a twin-boomer, and one with a good reason: rear view?)
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Thanks Tophe, I too enjoy twin-boom aircraft. :)
The rear view of the aircraft not only improves the all-round visibility but also (in some versions - the more "agressive" ones) has a fundamental reason to be there: it is the post of the rear facing gunner (with an all moving gun-turret)
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Here is another update
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV50.jpg)
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Oooo....looking good :
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It is indeed. Can't wait to see the completed aircraft in that Swedish desert scheme :)
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Thank you all.
The modelling phase is almost done (just need some seats, engine propeler and that gun turret and other external stores).
As for the camo, I am still learning to texturising, mapping, etc, but I'll get there soon... ;)
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Hello
Here are some more shots of the aircraft: now with its engines; I have been wondering if the blades are a bit too big...?
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV30frentecd.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV30ladocd.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV-30cimacd.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV30perpsCd.jpg)
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The answer to your question is "yes". What I think it needs is shorter and wider prop blades. Something like an Ospery ,perhaps. I really like this idea it's very Kool !!! Keep up the good work !!!
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Thanks for the suggestions, I think I will do it;
For now I decided to make the wings also shorter and wider; I think I will keep the longer wings to a more conventional design...
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV65compcopy.jpg)
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Here is another view of this new version
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV-65D.jpg)
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JP, I really like the new changes you made to the wing, very nice.
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Very nice indeed. An idea - do it in all white as a flying ambulance maybe?
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Thanks for the comments :)
Jeff: I think the new wing (inspired on the V-22) is a better one also.
Greg: that is a great idea: thanks. I was planning only military versions, but that is a really great suggestions. I was thinking about transport, armed patrol, maritime patrol, assault and some other military roles.
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Here is another view of this new version
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV-65D.jpg[/url])
From experience on the V-22, I'm thinking you may need taller/deeper fairings between wing and engine as there's a "whole heapin' helpin'" of hoses and wire bundles going between wing and nacelle, not to mention the cross-shaft to the APU and the other engine.
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very nice Verti-Pig :)
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Can be metro area transport usually doing 50 mile or less flights using airports and helicopter pads or anywhere with room.
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Here is another view of this new version
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV-65D.jpg[/url])
From experience on the V-22, I'm thinking you may need taller/deeper fairings between wing and engine as there's a "whole heapin' helpin'" of hoses and wire bundles going between wing and nacelle, not to mention the cross-shaft to the APU and the other engine.
Thanks for the suggestion; It has been a real WIP and that is really helpful :)
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very nice Verti-Pig :)
Yes, it is. I started with the basic idea of the OV-30, but as I was modelling it , it started to look more and more with the Arava; the Arava operators can be very interesting operators (colour schemes) for the OV-30
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Can be metro area transport usually doing 50 mile or less flights using airports and helicopter pads or anywhere with room.
Yes, there is a lot of civilian/comercial roles for it
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This is a very beautiful twin-boomer, thanks! :-*
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Thanks Tophe.
Here is another view of it; now with the rear combat station and pilots seats.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV65persp4.jpg)
Now trying to master maps and painting
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Hello
The Hail was perhaps the most radical atemp by Hawker to modernise the Hurricane.
If featured an all-metal fuselage, with a new engine and canopy arrangement.
Despiste some promising improvements over the Hurricane it remained only as a prototype.
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/hawkerhail2copy.jpg[/url])
Awesome mate!!
Sorry I've been away for a while, and unfortunately missed heaps of these profiles :(
M.A.D
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If there is one think I really like are those artist interpretations of the Cold War.
When the MiG-29 was only known from blurry satelite pictures, there were a lot of artist interpretations of the aircraft.
Here is a DDR aircraft based on one of those early interpretations; at the time it was also speculated that the Fulcrum used the AA-9...
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MiG-29ddrcopy.jpg[/url])
Ah nice 'RAM-L'
M.A.D
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Hello
The Soviet naval aviation received their first special-version MiG-15s in 1952 and used them aboard the Crimean Class Aircraft carriers
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MiG-15bisacarr.jpg[/url])
Very clever and very realistic!!
Well done!!
M.A.D
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And another one finished some time ago (but not yet posted)
What-if the The IDF-AF continue to use French aircraft...?
Here is a Mirage F-1CIS
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1CJcopy.jpg[/url])
If the IAF did continue to use French aircraft, would that mean that the Israeli F 1CIS may have been fitted with canards, as in the case of Kfir series??
M.A.D
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Can be metro area transport usually doing 50 mile or less flights using airports and helicopter pads or anywhere with room.
Yes, there is a lot of civilian/comercial roles for it
There have been studies which show that the optimum use of the tilt-rotor is for ranges between 50 and 200 miles in commercial roles.
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Thank you for your comments.
Been away trying to figure more of the most interesting (and challenging) world of 3D.
I think I can post some painted versions of the OV-30 soon... I hope ;)
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Thanks to MAD for ressurecting some of the oldies... ;)
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And another one finished some time ago (but not yet posted)
What-if the The IDF-AF continue to use French aircraft...?
Here is a Mirage F-1CIS
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1CJcopy.jpg[/url])
If the IAF did continue to use French aircraft, would that mean that the Israeli F 1CIS may have been fitted with canards, as in the case of Kfir series??
M.A.D
Yes, I started some time ago to do a "Kfir" version of the F-1, but not completed it...perhaps in the near future; for now almost all of my spare time goes into the 3D ... :)
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I did finished the Kfir-F-1. :) Need some memory boost ;)
Here is an Argentinian version http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=15.780 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=15.780)
Here it is an Israeli one
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1kfircopy.jpg)
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I did finished the Kfir-F-1. :) Need some memory boost ;)
Here is an Argentinian version [url]http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=15.780[/url] ([url]http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=15.780[/url])
Here it is an Israeli one
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1kfircopy.jpg[/url])
Oh very nice!!!
I like the new nose profile too!
Obviously a better and more effective radar system!
Is that a GE J79 engine powering this baby?
Thanks JP, fantastic work!!
M.A.D
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Hello
Thank you for your comments.
Nose profile, radar and engine all from the Phantom
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Hello
Moving along with my 3d learning experience; here are some test renders of the OV-30 wit some areas already "painted". This is still a very basic texture, without any panel lines, dirt and other details...
I am using a version of the Swedish Splinter camo, with more warmer tones (perhaps a camo used in some UN mandated Swedish intervention in Africa)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/testecamo2.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/testecamo3.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/testecamo4.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/testecamo1.jpg)
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:)
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Might as well be the first: for Jan's The Last War alternate history: a PLAAF Mirage F-1. The backstory is that after the Soviet hard-liners took over from Gorbachev (and the walls never came down in Eastern Europe), the West decides, reluctantly, to put Tianamen in the past and resume assistance to the PRC in modernizing its military. France is the first with selling Mirages....
A second one in this area would be a PLAAF AH-1T (the U.S. gets in on it eventually).
Hello
Here is a profile of a PLAAF Mirage F-1
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1PLAAFcopy.jpg)
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That's lovely and looks quite right.
Cheers,
Logan
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Hello
Moving along with my 3d learning experience; here are some test renders of the OV-30 wit some areas already "painted". This is still a very basic texture, without any panel lines, dirt and other details...
I am using a version of the Swedish Splinter camo, with more warmer tones (perhaps a camo used in some UN mandated Swedish intervention in Africa)
A silly question, if I may. If you don't need the wing to rotate for storage, as the V-22 wing does, do you really need that disk where it meets the fuselage or would a simpler fairing suffice?
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Hello
As I want to go through all the phases of creating a 3D aircraft, I wanted to use all the more basic shapes in modelling the aircraft and invest time on the other phases.
Answering your question: a simpler fairing would sufice, but at the time that would be more complicated to model that to use a modified shape like I did :)
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The PLAAF Mirage F-1 is very nice!
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Might need a ROCAF one to oppose it...
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Thanks; perhaps in the near future ... ;)
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Here is a more "conventional" AEW Nimrod
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Nimrodaewcopy.jpg)
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:)
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Very nice......
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Thank you for your comments.
Just posting some previous works that did not make it to this thread
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Snazzy! Looks very good in that blue-grey.
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Thanks for the comments
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And continuing to post some works done before but not presented, here is a jet-engined J7W
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/J9perfilcopy.jpg)
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Very nice variation on the J7W. I've always thought a jet-propelled version would have a clear-view canopy similar to that of the Ki-100-II and reduced depth to the verticals since there would be much less concern about over-rotation on takoff or landing.
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Here is a more "conventional" AEW Nimrod
Conventional! Is! Good! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PunctuatedForEmphasis) ;D
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That is so nice........
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J7W is excellent work!
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Thanks for the comments.
I enjoy reverse-engineering props and jets
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Here is another one that was not posted earlier:
The Saunders-Roe Stinger was a development of the Skeeter and was the British Army's first gunship helicopter
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/SRMK2copy.jpg)
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Very cool..... I like it a lot.
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Thanks for the Chinese Mirage! Sorry I didn't get to you earlier.
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You're welcome.
I had fun creating it also :)
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Still very ocupied with learning 3D programs...
Here is another oldie (not posted at the time):
The Avro York Gunship (D-Day)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AvroYorkgunshipcopy.jpg)
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WOW!!!! Very nice.
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With the shadow effect, your profiles were already 3D! almost...
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Interesting.
How about an Avro York based Maritime Patrol version?
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How about an Avro York based Maritime Patrol version?
Or perhaps one based on an Avro Tudor?
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Thanks for the comments.
As I said I have been learning 3D modelling and texturing, and so haven´t got much time to do something else; only posting some oldies (not posted when created) and some small modifications.
The great advantage about the 3D is the amount of variations I can do from a base aircraft.
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Here is one suggested: Avro York MPA
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AvroYorkMPAcopy.jpg)
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:)
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I REALLY like that York MPA! :-*
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Here is one suggested: Avro York MPA
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AvroYorkMPAcopy.jpg[/url])
Very, very nice indeed and quite plausible. It looks like it's got room for a good bit of MPA kit, too.
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:)
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Thanks for the replies.
I really like the Avro York and besides the Gunship, AEW and MPA versions posted here, perhaps I can do some more in the near future
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Here is another oldie: The Indian Navy Yak-39
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/Yak-39Indiacopy.jpg)
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And Here is the Amphibious Avro York
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AvroYorkAnFcopy.jpg)
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And Here is the Amphibious Avro York
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AvroYorkAnFcopy.jpg[/url])
Very nice.
Dear Model Maker:
I'd like a 1/72 York with the options to build the following versions:
- gun ship
- MPA
- Amphibian
- Air-to-air refueller
By August would be nice.
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^ Indeed! Nice Yak too!
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:) :)
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OUTSTANDING!!!!!!
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And Here is the Amphibious Avro York
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AvroYorkAnFcopy.jpg[/url])
Very nice.
Dear Model Maker:
I'd like a 1/72 York with the options to build the following versions:
- gun ship
- MPA
- Amphibian
- Air-to-air refueller
By August would be nice.
Wouldn't be great if things worked like that :)
Thank you all for the comments
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Continuing to show more not-before-seen oldies, here is another version of the Jet Bf109: this time a twin-engine
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/BF109Jet.jpg)
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Now that's nice......
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Looks right nice, but I reckon you'd need a heavier weight of armament in the nose to balance the weight of those engines behind the cg.
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Surprising addition to the Bf-109 family, thanks! :)
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Thanks for the comments
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Looks right nice, but I reckon you'd need a heavier weight of armament in the nose to balance the weight of those engines behind the cg.
Yes, probably more forward placed engines work better
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/bf109jet2copy.jpg)
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Here is another version of a jet FW-190D-9
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190DJet3copy.jpg)
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Very cool......I like it. :)
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Fw190 and Me109 twin jets are just perfect!! :) :-* :) :-*
Perhaps if you move intakes a bit forward and wings just after intakes ... I mean as another alternative. ;)
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Sweet... :)
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Looks great and thinking outside the box, me like!
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Thank you for the comments.
Still very busy with the 3D programs, but i will try to post some more in the near future.
Cheers :)
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Belated congratulations for your twin-jet 109 & 190... :D
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Thank you.
I need a little break form learning the 3D; I am just starting to learn a bit of it now ;)
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Hello
In the 1948 war the Hawker Typhoon was used by both sides
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/baseMKIBIsrcopy.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/baseMKIBIsr.jpg)
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Wow.... they are pretty. :)
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:) :)
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The Egyptian Tiffie is particularly sharp! :)
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Might as well be the first: for Jan's The Last War alternate history: a PLAAF Mirage F-1. The backstory is that after the Soviet hard-liners took over from Gorbachev (and the walls never came down in Eastern Europe), the West decides, reluctantly, to put Tianamen in the past and resume assistance to the PRC in modernizing its military. France is the first with selling Mirages....
A second one in this area would be a PLAAF AH-1T (the U.S. gets in on it eventually).
Hello
Here is a profile of a PLAAF Mirage F-1
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1PLAAFcopy.jpg[/url])
Wow how cool is this!!!
You know, in the late 70's and early 80's the PRC did seriously look at purchasing (and I dare say licence manufacture) Western fighters (the Hawker Siddeley Harrier being one of them! Does anyone know of any other designs??) to update it's obsolete capability. You're PLAAF Mirage F1, would probably have been one of the most cost-effective and capable designs available to the PRC at the time JPVieira !! After all I'm more than confident the French would have happily have sold and or allow license production to the PRC!
P.S. What about the PRC aerospace industry, combining its uncanny ability to reverse engineer the variable-geometry wings and mechanism of the MiG-23 Flogger it obtained from a disgruntled Egypt, with that of the "licenced" built fuselage of the Dassault Mirage F1 and its SNECMA M53 turbojet or that of the Rolls Royce Spey turbofan it acquired from Britain? Hint hint ;)
M.A.D
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Hey JP Vieira, is there any chance of one of your Hawker-Siddeley GR.3 Harrier profiles in the camouflage and markings of that used by the Australian Army's helicopter fleet (see pic)
Thanks for your consideration
M.A.D
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Hey JP Vieira, is there any chance of one of your Hawker-Siddeley GR.3 Harrier profiles in the camouflage and markings of that used by the Australian Army's helicopter fleet (see pic)
Thanks for your consideration
M.A.D
Yes, I think I can make it; I am only able to find time now for modifying existing works (new camos)
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And here is another Typhoon
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/baseMKIBSWcopy.jpg)
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(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMASLDfZG1NPV56SwKpfuxbtnAXSYsW-iKZkw4G1ypMWl-BsoS)
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OMG!!!!!!! That is nice :)
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And here is another Typhoon
And a gorgeous one :-* I wonder, is there an aircraft tyope ut there that wouldn't be improved by being dressed in Swedish splinter cam?
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Great Typhoon's.
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Thanks for the comments.
I too believe any aircraft looks better in Swedish Splinter Camo :)
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Hey JP Vieira, is there any chance of one of your Hawker-Siddeley GR.3 Harrier profiles in the camouflage and markings of that used by the Australian Army's helicopter fleet (see pic)
Thanks for your consideration
M.A.D
Here it is. Cheers
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HarrierAustcopy.jpg)
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That's a nice Harrier!
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Yes it is....Very nice Harrier!
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Oh yeah!!! I can feel a whole story behind that one profile...
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I like it muchly.
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Gorgeous Harrier!! 'Twould be interesting to see what they do with a second-generation Harrier.
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Thanks for the comments
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Oh yeah!!! I can feel a whole story behind that one profile...
So, what are you waiting? Tell us ;)
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Gorgeous Harrier!! 'Twould be interesting to see what they do with a second-generation Harrier.
Yes, it would; perhaps when I have such a profile ... ;)
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Here is another previous design not posted:
The Supermarine Scorpion was one of the famous Spitfire forerunners
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/SupermarineSwiftcopy.jpg)
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Ohh, nice!! I wonder if there were any evaluated by the USAAC?
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Continuing to show more not-before-seen oldies, here is another version of the Jet Bf109: this time a twin-engine
Belated thanks for the inspiration, JV :-*
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Oh yeah!!! I can feel a whole story behind that one profile...
So, what are you waiting? Tell us ;)
Don't rush me.
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Continuing to show more not-before-seen oldies, here is another version of the Jet Bf109: this time a twin-engine
Belated thanks for the inspiration, JV :-*
Very good; that maybe inspire me to do my own versions
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Ohh, nice!! I wonder if there were any evaluated by the USAAC?
Yes, it did ;)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/NAKestrelcopy.jpg)
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Oh yeah!!! I can feel a whole story behind that one profile...
So, what are you waiting? Tell us ;)
Don't rush me.
Take your time ;)
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The Swedish Typhoons also had the Winter and Desert Splinter camos
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/baseMKIBSW2copy.jpg)
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Those Swedish Typhoons are amazing.......
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Those modified Swedish schemes would also look good on some Viggens...
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Hmm, looks like our JP is a bit of a poet! ;)
Do like the Winter Splinter though looks goooood :D
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The Swedish Typhoons look great
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I can't stop thinking dive bomber when looking at the Scorpion. Am I crazy? ;D
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I can't stop thinking dive bomber when looking at the Scorpion. Am I crazy? ;D
Could you tell around here? I will agree, though, that the arrangement of the landing gear does suggest that as an option.
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A special Thank you to all members
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Hey, you're the one who does all the work! :)
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Congratulations :)
I will agree, though, that the arrangement of the landing gear does suggest that as an option.
The thought went a bit further in the meantime- US Marines Sea Scorpions and Sea Apaches (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_A-36_Apache)......
(I know it makes less sense than adopting radial-engined Navy aircraft, so I'm invoking Rules of Cool here.)
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Congratulations!!!!!!!
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How cool are those Swedish Typhoons!!!!
M.A.D
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First of all, my congratulations on 1000 replies. Secondly, I love those last two Swedish Typhoons. I'm thinking those color schemes would look good on other aircraft, I'm pushing for Swedish radar-equipped Harrier II's as JAS-38's.
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Actually, hey JP, when did the Scorpion get evaluated by the US in your setting? I was thinking of the possibility of Supermarine getting an American licence-production partner, who then discovered the biplane's potential as a divebomber (if it doesn't conflict with your setting) and further developed it as such.
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Thank you all for the comments and congratulations :)
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Hey, you're the one who does all the work! :)
I want to thank all for their suport, comments and suggestions
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First of all, my congratulations on 1000 replies. Secondly, I love those last two Swedish Typhoons. I'm thinking those color schemes would look good on other aircraft, I'm pushing for Swedish radar-equipped Harrier II's as JAS-38's.
Thank you; the Harrier II would look good with it; unfortunally, for the moment i don't have such a profile.
There are 3 variations of the basic Swedish splinter camo: desert, Winter and Tropical
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Actually, hey JP, when did the Scorpion get evaluated by the US in your setting? I was thinking of the possibility of Supermarine getting an American licence-production partner, who then discovered the biplane's potential as a divebomber (if it doesn't conflict with your setting) and further developed it as such.
I did not developed any backstory to it, so feel free to came up with a year and an American partner to it; thank you
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Some of the works...
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/1000posterDcopy.jpg)
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I'm pushing for Swedish radar-equipped Harrier II's as JAS-38's.
But don't you remember that the Swedish Harriers were AJS-38s and were based on the GR.5.... ;)
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Some of the works...
Hurrah...!
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Some of the works...
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/1000posterDcopy.jpg[/url])
Love that image. Would make a great poster!!!
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Thanks for the comments
And why not another poster
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The new one is great!
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I'm pushing for Swedish radar-equipped Harrier II's as JAS-38's.
But don't you remember that the Swedish Harriers were AJS-38s and were based on the GR.5.... ;)
That's right, the JAS-38's followed along later and were similar to the Harrier FGR.11's flown by both the RAF and the FAA but incorporated the radar, IRST, and other systems from the AJS-39 Gripen.
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Love the poster, JP! Fantastic work!
Brian da Basher
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Great posters.......
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Thank you all for your comments
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Here is another one.
Like most of the F-104's operators, Denmark also opted for the modernisation program and most of its Strafighters's Fleet was transformed into F-104-2000 versions
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/F-104-2000DKcopy.jpg)
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Modern and nice! :-*
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:)
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Cool!
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Thank you all for your comments.
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The AF-12 was exported to some countries, among them Argentina.
The Argentinian aircraft were latter upgraded to turboprop engines
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/CNCAAF-12Argcopy.jpg)
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wonderful twin-boomer, thanks! :-*
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I really like your AF-12 but that updated Danish Starfighter is hot! :)
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I really like your AF-12 but that updated Danish Starfighter is hot! :)
Better than the Lockheed Lancer IMHO.
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Better than the Lockheed Lancer IMHO.
Agreed. And more acheivable too ... in both reality and in plastic.
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Thank you all.
It would look great in plastic: if someone want to make it .... ;)
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Continuing with my 3D learning, here is a Clay render test shot: just trying some texturing
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/testeclay2.jpg)
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Good work! :-*
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:)
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Continuing with my 3D learning, here is a Clay render test shot: just trying some texturing
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/testeclay2.jpg[/url])
Beautiful!! That doesn't look that far off some of the PD studies that led to the V280.
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Thank you for the comments.
I am planning to give it some differente camos (some of them will be the variations of the Swedish Splnter: the Winter, Desert and Tropical one that i have used before on other aircraft).
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Hello
Here are some test shots of camo textures (this is one the camos I will try on this aircraft: The Tropical Splinter)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/teste55.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/teste35.jpg)
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Love the Tropical Splinter! Maybe some UN markings too?
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Thanks for the comments.
I made a mistake: sorry.
This is not the tropical Splinter: its the Mediterranean Splinter (The Tropical Splinter has a green base colour, with two more shades of green and a small part of brown)
Apophenia: UN markings are a good idea: Thank you.
Here are some more test shots
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ov65teste75.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ov65teste95.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ov65teste99.jpg)
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Looking good.
Just thinking whilst looking at the pics (dangerous I know), but I wonder...make fuselage, wings etc out of carbon fibre, use something such as GE H80 or PT6 engines maybe forgo any sort of crossover shaft (maybe use an electrical crossover as a limited backup), add in some good software...
As a thought, this might look even more practical if you were to move the engines themselves to the top of the fuselage as fixed mounts and then simply have small 'snub' rotating units at the tips (with electric motors doing the actual rotor/prop driving). Then there would definitely be no need for crossover shafts as all would be electric.
Now, make it a cargo UAV and we can start talking about me putting money on the table to start a production program... ;)
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I think this is an incredible design... !!!!!!! I would.like to see you model this in the real world. It looks to be a fairly simple build. Keep up the good work ,my friend.
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Oh Lord, I see another project on the list! This must be built!
Interesting idea of putting the engines on the fuselage and run a shaft out to each wing tip. Possibilities.....
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Looking good.
Just thinking whilst looking at the pics (dangerous I know), but I wonder...make fuselage, wings etc out of carbon fibre, use something such as GE H80 or PT6 engines maybe forgo any sort of crossover shaft (maybe use an electrical crossover as a limited backup), add in some good software...
As a thought, this might look even more practical if you were to move the engines themselves to the top of the fuselage as fixed mounts and then simply have small 'snub' rotating units at the tips (with electric motors doing the actual rotor/prop driving). Then there would definitely be no need for crossover shafts as all would be electric.
Now, make it a cargo UAV and we can start talking about me putting money on the table to start a production program... ;)
Thank you Greg for those very interesting ideas: something to add to future "evolutions" of this drawing
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I too would like to see it in the "real" world.
Perhaps when I can afford a good 3D printer ... ;)
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I too would like to see it in the "real" world.
Perhaps when I can afford a good 3D printer ... ;)
In 1/72 or 1/48 that's probably around $50 at Shapeways, if you design your model properly.
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Thank you for the tip.
I might try it in the near future :)
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Hello
Here is the Supermarine Shrike (AKA JetFire), a jet conversion of the Spitfire
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/jetfireshrikecopy.jpg)
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The Shrike looks good.
I'm wondering about a couple of things. Maybe they would have used the fin and rudder from a later model? If I'm seeing the jet exhaust correctly, isn't it pretty small? ... or maybe there is more than one, side by side?
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Pleasant turbojet-Spitfire, thanks :-*
IS there a rocket version (without air-intake) with sharp nose?
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The Shrike looks good.
I'm wondering about a couple of things. Maybe they would have used the fin and rudder from a later model? If I'm seeing the jet exhaust correctly, isn't it pretty small? ... or maybe there is more than one, side by side?
Thank you.
The Shrike is a conversion of MK.V; latr models can also be converted.
The exhaust is a little small; it is only one
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Pleasant turbojet-Spitfire, thanks :-*
IS there a rocket version (without air-intake) with sharp nose?
Thanks.
Yes, there is a rocket version; I might find an image of it, but I think it will take some time to find it ;)
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Thanks JP. Take your time, there is no hurry. And if then I don't clap my hands, the cause might be holidays rather than dislike ;)
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OK, thanks
For now some more texturised (not all yet) OV-65
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/frente.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/lado.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/cimo.jpg)
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Your 3D-twin-boomer is getting better and better... :-*
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I love Jetfire. Can you try with Spitfire's later tail fins?
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Thanks for the comments
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I love Jetfire. Can you try with Spitfire's later tail fins?
Thank you.
Perhaps, but not in the near future; the 3D program takes almost all of my free time
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Almost done...
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/teste125.jpg)
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With those wheels it seems perfect :-* , what remains to be done?
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With those wheels it seems perfect :-* , what remains to be done?
Thanks Tophe; some little details, but is prety much done
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With a heat wave here in Portugal (with temperatures reaching 40ºC), and watching some tv footage of Ka-32 firefighters, I decide to make a firefighting version of the OV-65
Beside water-bomber, it is also used as surveilance and for transporting fire-fighter teams
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/combatefogos3.jpg)
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Just a thought, add a fuselage water tank with aft dump (like a mini-MAFFS (Military Airborne Fire FIghting System) as fit to Air Guard C-130's seconded to support the USFS) and use a deployable-from-hover pump system like Aero Union fits to Black Hawks in making fire-fighting Firehawks. You'd get better control of water placement plus faster reloading.
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Love the OV-65! More 3D! :)
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Just a thought, add a fuselage water tank with aft dump (like a mini-MAFFS (Military Airborne Fire FIghting System) as fit to Air Guard C-130's seconded to support the USFS) and use a deployable-from-hover pump system like Aero Union fits to Black Hawks in making fire-fighting Firehawks. You'd get better control of water placement plus faster reloading.
That is a great idea.
However the OV-65 intends to be a very simple, rugged aircraft; it is intended to be multi-task with simple adaptations and so a water-bucket system adjusts better to that idea.
Thank you for the suggestion
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And a new version of the OV-65: AEW
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/aew655.jpg)
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Very nice! Like the Erieye-style radar mount :)
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You have designed this in such a correct way. Super job :)
If offered in styrene, would be great to kitbash upon.
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Thanks for the comments.
I am really considering (but not for now) to have this 3D- printed.
For now I am planing a SAR and an armed versions of this one
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Equiped with external fuel tanks (and, in the future, flotation gear and rescue hoist ;) ) here is the SAR version
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/OV65SAR2.jpg)
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Just a thought, add a fuselage water tank with aft dump (like a mini-MAFFS (Military Airborne Fire FIghting System) as fit to Air Guard C-130's seconded to support the USFS) and use a deployable-from-hover pump system like Aero Union fits to Black Hawks in making fire-fighting Firehawks. You'd get better control of water placement plus faster reloading.
That is a great idea.
However the OV-65 intends to be a very simple, rugged aircraft; it is intended to be multi-task with simple adaptations and so a water-bucket system adjusts better to that idea.
Thank you for the suggestion
Well, how about taking the Aero Union/Sikorsky Firehawk approach, a lengthened landing gear and an underfuselage tank with the refill hose and pump unit deployable from it?
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Thank you; that is very interesting
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Hello
What-if the RNZAF got Phantoms...?
Here is a possible colour scheme
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JP_VieiraF-4RNZAF.jpg)
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:)
Good to see you posting again!
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Yes, thanks to enjoy us again :)
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Thank you.
Never stop enjoying the site :)
Just been busy with other real-world stuff; good to be back
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JP Viera,
I really love the following
- Dassault Eclipse: It's kind of like Mirage F.1 meets a single engined YF-17. It's a beautiful design and aerodynamically it's only flaw might be the aft fuselage may be a touch too narrow (that's why the F-20 had chine-shelves, it was to compensating two engines for one)
- Hawker Siddely Osprey: It's kind of to the Dassault Eclipse what the F-18E is to the F-18A. An improvement of an already beautiful design
- Fairchild-Republic AV-10 Thunder: Damn practical to have a vertical takeoff ground-attack/CAS plane. If only you had a a top view
- Northrop F-89 Super-Scorpion: I remember commenting on this design awhile back. I really liked it had an F-101 Voodoo quality about it as well as the F-89. While I don't know how well research was on LERX in those days, but had a design like this been cooked up the F-101 would have probably made an effective escort fighter. After all, it would have probably been more maneuverable at altitude, and the tail look like it would have been less prone to deep-stall problems as well.
- Bell OV-25 Grasshopper: I really like the design, it looks functional and also has nice simple, clean lines. Very few people realize the pitfalls that exist in helicopters due to the fact that the blades are effectively in constant windshear (advancing/retreating blades). From the side-view I did not realize it to be twin-boomed, but regardless it looks good either way and I'm not the slightest bit surprised that Tophe loves it.
- Avro York (Amphibious): It has really nice clean lines. Now imagine that as an aerial refueller...
- Bell OV-65: I really love the clay-renders of it. Personally, I like the earlier design more, but admittedly this design is probably more functional size wise.
Interesting notes
- Regarding the Lockheed F-109 Starkiller: There was a high-altitude variant of the F-104 called the NF-104: It was used to train astronauts and had a modified inlet spike to allow for higher optimized mach numbers to facilitate superior zoom climb, rocket-motor in the tail, and a somewhat bigger wing; while the NF-104 was unarmed, Lockheed did some studies into the idea of carrying a Genie under the F-104 in a modified semi-submerged structure attached to the lower-fuselage with a trapeze to allow it's extension and launch. I'm not sure if an ASAT could be produced of that size, but it is a step towards your idea (while I was typing this I noticed that M.A.D. posted something to the same effect, but I figure I'll post it anyway)
- Regarding the Handley Page Harrow CK Mk. VIII: Aerial refueling was something conceived well before WW2, and the Looped-Hose and Grapnel Line was a semi-successful system -- it required specialized multi-man crews; earlier ideas did incorporate a simple hose and I'm surprised that using a probe and drogue wasn't made workable (especially when you consider that that the research carried out by Cobham FRL wasn't classified far as I know) by somebody as it would have allowed refueling of fighters as well as bombers which would have been really useful. Additionally: I'm surprised nobody ever thought of the idea of a flying-boat refueling plane, as WW2 involved huge swaths of the Pacific and refueling aircraft had limits in range too; a tanker like the PB2Y would make a great candidate as it was huge and could land on the water, refuel from a submarine or a submarine tender; then go back up and start passing gas with reckless abandon (you'd need retractible hoses).
- Republic F-105-2000: This aircraft looks like it could make a seriously good carrier strike plane. It could probably replace the A-7 and A-4 without trouble and have supersonic performance to boot. I'm not sure how good a replacement for the older F-105 it would be however because of the fact that the F-111 might have had greater range and bomb-load.
- Lockheed F-104-1000: There actually was at least one proposal for an F-104 with a larger (albeit not that large) and more tapered wing, and at least one proposal for an F-104 with LERX's. The wings might be mounted too far back for a tailed design however
BTW: Since I'm often misunderstood, any commentary I've mentioned for your ideas are not meant to be taken negatively. It's simply constructive ideas and advice. I've been trying to be more overt in my expression of gratitude in requests for drawings and things of that nature because I've been told I come off as ungrateful; I don't want to appear negatively critical. I have great respect for your work.
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Thank you for the comments
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JP Viera
You're welccome
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What-if the Swedish Air Force bought Lightnings and aplied them a winter splinter camo...? Here is one of those modernised
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6wintercopy.jpg)
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Neutral and beautiful! :-*
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:)
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Swedish splinterwinter! I love it! Would also look good on AFV for urban use...hmm....
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It took me a while to peruse all the 73 pages of this topic, but finnaly did it :)
Congrats on all those fantastic works, JP!
Abraço.
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Thank you for the comments.
Obrigado António, espero que tenha valido a pena ver as 73 páginas :) Cumprimentos
Sugeria-lhe que visse também a história alternativa que criei (Industria Aeronautica Portuguesa) em http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=908.0 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=908.0) ainda faltar colocar mais algumas páginas deste material (espero que em breve)
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The Swedish winter splinter lighting is rockin! May have to model that!
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Thank you
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Hello
Here is the lockheed PV-3 Trident of the US Navy (a licensed version of the Avro York MPA)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JP_Vieira_LPV_3_Trident.jpg)
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:)
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Interesting!
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An MPA York? I do like that idea. :)
My Dad was the effective crew chief of the RAF's last three Yorks in 1956 or thereabouts so I have a soft spot for that aeroplane.
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Thanks for the comments.
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An MPA York? I do like that idea. :)
My Dad was the effective crew chief of the RAF's last three Yorks in 1956 or thereabouts so I have a soft spot for that aeroplane.
Take a look at page 63 (repply # 938).
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=15.msg41179;topicseen#msg41179 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=15.msg41179;topicseen#msg41179)
It was a sugestion by Greg
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Damn!!! Blamed again!!! :-[
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Yes, I don´t forget your bad influence ;)
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Who me?
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Yes, and thank you for it :)
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Still think F-16s operators should had their own individual color schemes.
Here is one example: a Danish F-16
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/JP_Vieira_F_16Dan.jpg)
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Absolutely! There's far too much grey paint in the world as it is.
Likewise the RAF Rivet Joints should have had blue lightning stripes along the fuselage with a white top. :)
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Absolutely! There's far too much grey paint in the world as it is.
Likewise the RAF Rivet Joints should have had blue lightning stripes along the fuselage with a white top. :)
How about a "you cannot use grey paint" group build? ;D
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Nice work
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Thanks for the comments.
It would be a lot more interesting to see F-16s without their basic grey camo: Grey is not OK ;)
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How about a "you cannot use grey paint" group build? ;D
Grey is not OK ;)
Not to threadjack, but this really needs to be a group build sometime.
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JP Viera
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6wintercopy.jpg[/url])
I love this paint job...
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How about a "you cannot use grey paint" group build? ;D
Grey is not OK ;)
Not to threadjack, but this really needs to be a group build sometime.
Well suggest it! (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=3832.15)
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Thanks for the repplies
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Season's Greetings to all
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Nice pink airplane without country markings.
Have a merry Xmas, JP.
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Thank you Tophe :)
Happy New Year to all members
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Hello
It's been almost a year since I last posted.
My life has gone throught some changes and I hope to get more time in the future to pos more of my what-ifs
Here is quick-one: a late-war interceptor version of the FW-190 (with radar, radar operator and air to-air missiles).
Hope you all enjoy and to all Seasons Greetings :)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/FW-190D-Interccopy.jpg)
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Welcome back mate - great to see you here again.
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Glad to see you again man! That 190 is...... :-* :-* :-*
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Must build now ! :-*
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Welcome back and I love the interceptor.
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Hello JP. Thanks for this 2-seat 190, so nice! Have a nice end of the year, too.
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Hello to all :)
It's great to be back; hope to continue to create and display new works frequently.
To all
Seasons Greetings:)
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Hope you all like a new version of the A-10: the AV-10 Thunder
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/AV-10Dcopy.jpg[/url])
Nice VTOL concept of 'the ultimate COIN' aircraft design!!
M.A.D
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Thanks
Would be nice to see it in plastic... ;)
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A Mirage F-1 in Swiss colours
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1SWcopy.jpg)
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A Mirage F-1 in Swiss colours
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1SWcopy.jpg[/url])
Cool, instead of the F-5E or Hornet?
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A Mirage F-1 in Swiss colours
Maybe with AIM-9 and HM-55 for air-to-air weapons?
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Very nice! :)
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Nice colours!
(Would it be possible to invent also a version with low-visibility markings?)
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A Mirage F-1 in Swiss colours
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1SWcopy.jpg[/url])
Cool, instead of the F-5E or Hornet?
Hello; I think instead of the F-5; (perhaps Mirage-2000 instead of the Hornet :) )
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Hello
Here with some suggestions: thanks to all
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/MirageF-1SWcopy-1.jpg)
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:)
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I browsed some Swiss photos and didn't find an aircraft with low viz roundels. Have they done it In Real Life?
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Love the twin-place Dora and the low-viz Swiss Mirage!
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Thanks to all :)
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The Swiss Air Force did in fact modernised its Mirage III.
Not much of a whiff (perhaps only with the Super 530)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/mirageIIISMcopy.jpg)
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Hello
One of the Early SaaB aircraft: the SaaB 15 Hök
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/SaaB_15copy.jpg)
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Interesting…Bf109E(?) with R-1830?
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Interesting…Bf109E(?) with R-1830?
The engine looks like it came from a Swedish P-35; that would make it an R-1830; the fuselage looks like it might be a later mark of 109 due to the lack of braces under the horizontal stabilizers. ;)
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Definitely a P-36 cowl. Cool design!
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My bad. That is a P-36 cowling. :o But it is still an R-1830 series engine. :D When I saw the Swedish markings and the American engine my mind errantly connected to the Swedish P-35.
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I don't know the precise source, but I enjiy the result, thanks! ;)
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Love Höken and I see its from F17 near where I grew up!
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Hello and thanks to all
A Bf-109 with a P-36 engine
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Hello
I've seen some interesting designs in the form of the Airspeed AS.31 and some of its variants.
Here is one I created based on some of those ideas:
Could it been made (with today and say 1940's technoloy)? What would be the advantages over a conventional layout aircraft...?
Thank you all
Best regards
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(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/persp_2.jpg)
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(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/persp_5.jpg)
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Wonderful! Thanks a lot for this marvel, now existing actually! :-*
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Thanks Tophe. I knew you would like this one :)
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Now with double the power ... :)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/1.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/2.jpg)
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:-* :-* Double congratulations! No: even more! :-* :-* :-*
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Inspiring :-* :-*
Looks bashable in styrene too.
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Thanks to both.
More engines: is it possible...? ;)
In plastic? Why not.
Would a plane like this be Structurally viable?
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This is for Tophe's love of extra engines...
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/for_Tophe.jpg)
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Well at least it cant be underpowered
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This is for Tophe's love of extra engines...
at least :-* :-* :-* :-* ... ;)
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Thanks
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Thanks to YOU designer!
(and I have a little improved the result, still a little more serious in the version for the Blohm und Voss factory): ;)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/JPVieraS2.JPG)
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Great one , Tophe :)
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cool!
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The Handley Page Harrow CK.MK.8 was one of the first RAF aerial tankers.
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/ATKHarrowcopy.jpg[/url])
Hey great profile!!
You know air refuelling is one of those WWII things, which has always had me baffled. Air-refuelling had been tested and proven by the British pre-WWII, and was one of the most natural 'force multipliers', which the Allies could have applied during WWII, and yet they didn't :o
I know as you have pointed out 'that it required skill for the average pilot to master'. But I can not help think the lives it could have saved, had air-refuelling been able to top of bombers (allowing longer range and or extended radius of action - taking away predictable flight paths of Allied bomber, to which the Luftwaffe were able to station their fighter/interceptor airfields and patrol. It would have also allowed the critical fighter escorts to accompany the vulnerable bombers to many more targets, until the advent of the likes of the NAA P-51 Mustang)
Great work VP Vieira ;)
That was also my starting point in creating the WWII Tankers; it would surelly change aerial operations in that era. Thank you
P.S. Any chance of some profiles of the likes of Short Sterling, early B-17D/E/F and B-24D/E's being utilised as tankers, as newer and more powerful designs and variants entered front-line service - i.e. Halifax, Lancaster, B-17F/G's and B-24J's etc..........(in both RAF and USAAF colours and markings ;) )
That is a great idea; I am going to work on it; thank you
P.P.S. If you do not mind me saying, that had the Allies been so bold and foresighted to introduce airborne refuelling during WWII, I think they may have adapted an single hose approach initially (1-point refuelling) - the hose being located and deployed from the under rear fuselage, with the refuelling operator being located in the once rear turret. This arrangement would probably offer less prop-wash from the tanker, as well as the receiving aircraft's pilot to use the centre-line of the tankers fuselage as an important visual reference point ;)
I had thought about it when designing some of these tankers, but in the end I decided to make them like this; It is a great idea for some earlier ones, perhaps (or smaller types); thanks for the suggestion
Keep up the fantastic imagination, foresight and great profiles VP Vieira
M.A.D
Thank you for your comments, suggestions and support.
G'day JP, its been a while, and thought I'd impose again :-[
M.A.D
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I fear that dear JP does not post here anymore but on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=jp%20vieira (https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=jp%20vieira) ???
And for a few weeks, the Notify tool of BTS here does not work anymore it seems so maybe he will not be informed that this thread is reactivated. :(
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Super profile. :)
Inspiration to build most any aircraft you want as a "K" model.
Gotha refueling Tri-plane or Albatross diorama ?
Or backward diorama where KB-24 refuels a B-10 or KB-52 refuels B-36.
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I fear that dear JP does not post here anymore but on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=jp%20vieira (https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=jp%20vieira) ???
And for a few weeks, the Notify tool of BTS here does not work anymore it seems so maybe he will not be informed that this thread is reactivated. :(
Tophe have you checked your notifications setting in your profile?
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Thanks (I had not noticed this part), but all is set for receiving in my profile. It seems there is another problem.
I fear JP will receive nothing, and as he does not come here by himself, maybe this is alas finished for us here, enjoying his creations.
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Hello To everyone
It is good to return and to see that there are members still finding this thread interesting.
Real world commitment has kept me away but i hope I can pay a littler visit from time to time.
All the best to everyone and here is a little something (I could not came empty handed after all these years, could I?)
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Nice! :)
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Nice to have you back JP :)
If I'm not mistaken,it's the first time I see an French Hornet...nice profile!
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Nice to have you back JP
I second this sentiment!! ;)
M.A.D
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Nice to have you back JP
I second this sentiment!! ;)
M.A.D
I have the same feeling: welcome again!
(The French navy considered buying F-18s but saying it was condemned in France by nationalists requiring to buy French designs as much as possible...)
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Many thanks for your welcome posts.
It is good to be back and hopefully will post with more regularity
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W/B with a very attractive piece of work. Perhaps a more "local content" version with M88's replacing the F404's and a pair of DEFA cannon replacing the M61?
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W/B with a very attractive piece of work. Perhaps a more "local content" version with M88's replacing the F404's and a pair of DEFA cannon replacing the M61?
Thnak you. Yes some local equipment would be inevitable
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And for now a RSAF F-4E Phantom
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Beautiful! JL-100's on outboard wing and centerline hardpoints? That would leave the inboard hardpoints for either rocket pods or carrying short-range AAM's for defense.
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JL-100's on outboard wing and centerline hardpoints?
Yes nice choice and use JP!
M.A.D
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Thank you
Would this configuration be fe(http://)asible? (mainly because of the flames when JL-100 is firing)
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Thank you
Would this configuration be fe(http://)asible? (mainly because of the flames when JL-100 is firing)
Don't know if it's "feasible" mate, but the inner wing pylons of the Phantom II could probably manage two JL-100 each. This would free up outer-wing pylons for two Sidewinder's each, freeing up under fuselage (Sparrow recesses) for either additional weapons or cleaner aerodynamics
M.A.D
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I believe you would need to go with just pods on the inboard pylons because I don't think they were plumbed for fuel tanks. Alternatively, you could put Sidewinders (or equivalent) on a dual rack there for self-defense if needed. IIRC, the inboard pylons cannot carry the same loadouts as the outboard pylons. If you had the necessary pylons, you could probably put dual JL-100's on the centerline pylon as it as twice the capacity of the outboard wing pylons.
Note that the missile wells are designed to carry Sparrows, or something of equivalent shape, semi-submerged and I don't think Sidewinders would work well there without adaptor pylons.
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I really like the RM Harrier! Any chance of a sandy brown/black one? I saw this documentary of the RMs in Borneo(?) and they had boats in that colour scheme that looked cool!
Yes, it is possible; do you have any photo of that colour scheme...?
[url]http://defense-update.com/20100816_pacscat_landing_craft.html[/url] ([url]http://defense-update.com/20100816_pacscat_landing_craft.html[/url])
Although I remember the brown being a bit lighter.
Here is one request I did not posted at the time (althought it was done)
Here it is (with only 6 months of delay... ;)
([url]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/HarrierRmARINESborcopy.jpg[/url])
Just had a closer look at your Royal Marines Harrier GR.3 JP Vieira, and noticed and appreciated the fact that it's weapons pylons arrangement is substantially different in terms of the Aim-9 Sidewinder apparently being hung from shoulder-type arrangement off the main inner pylon?? 😯
Which ironically make complete and utter sense, which I've imagined and advocated for ever 👍
Nice work, and apologies for not picking up on it from when you first posted this fantastic profile!!
M.A.D
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As a side note on his work, JP has several F-15 profiles in the recent Morton bookazine on the F-15. beautiful work!!
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Hello to All
A long time has passed.
I am more working on "real-world" projects but will soon have a new project concerning more of this area.
All the best