Author Topic: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280  (Read 79135 times)

Offline Talos

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2012, 12:51:29 AM »
Thanks Greg, JP.

XP-60???

Nope, it isn't.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2012, 09:23:53 AM »
Almost have my He 100 finished tonight. Just a bit more and it'll be done. Had to stop and work on something else though, I thought my eyes were going to fall out. Anyway, all that's left is to finish the gunsight and integrate it, riveting on a couple small access panels, and finish up the detailing on the underside of the wing. Nearly all the riveting is complete. I even have two rows of rivets on the underside of the wing, but at this scale, you won't see them. I wonder if anyone's noticed the add-on armored glass windscreen that I slipped in a few previews ago. It'll be one of the first operational mods for the He 100D.




Wonderful!  You know what to do with it when you're done.

Cheers,

Logan

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2012, 10:13:06 AM »

Wonderful!  You know what to do with it when you're done.

Cheers,

Logan

Yep, I do. I should probably send you a  flat, full-sized version so you can at least start laying out the shapes.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2012, 10:19:38 AM »
I'd love that.

Thanks,

Logan

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2012, 11:54:19 AM »
XP-60???
Unlikely.  Going by the profile, my first thought was P-72.  'Twould be interesting to see a P-72B with P-47N wings.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2012, 01:54:19 PM »
XP-60???
Unlikely.  Going by the profile, my first thought was P-72.  'Twould be interesting to see a P-72B with P-47N wings.

Nope, it's not a P-72 either.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2012, 12:56:01 PM »
Here's the latest update in the line art for the He 100 project with Logan.

Still haven't finished it yet, but I got most of what was left done tonight. There's only a few more items left to check off.
 

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #57 on: February 25, 2012, 07:19:03 PM »
Keep it up!

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #58 on: February 27, 2012, 02:49:02 AM »
XP-60???

Unlikely.  Going by the profile, my first thought was P-72.  'Twould be interesting to see a P-72B with P-47N wings.


Nope, it's not a P-72 either.


Agreed - whilst it is similar to a degree, the proportions and tail shape are wrong:



It was partially the proportions that made me think of the XP-60:



This new one has me stumped - it looks so familiar but I just can't put my finger on it....aaaarrrggghhhh!!!!  You have to let me know soon...please!!!!

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #59 on: February 28, 2012, 01:48:35 PM »

Agreed - whilst it is similar to a degree, the proportions and tail shape are wrong:



It was partially the proportions that made me think of the XP-60:

This new one has me stumped - it looks so familiar but I just can't put my finger on it....aaaarrrggghhhh!!!!  You have to let me know soon...please!!!!


Nope, that'd be too easy. I haven't gotten any work on it, but I'll see if I can do just a bit, enough to either blow your mind or give it away. Don't know which it'll do!  ;D

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2012, 04:28:40 PM »
Tease!!!
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #61 on: February 29, 2012, 04:50:30 AM »
While finishing up a lot of work on the He 100 for Logan this afternoon, I went ahead and fiddled with a couple things I was doing randomly.


Actually, I think the update for this one just might end up being confusing...



While having a conversation with Logan yesterday, we ended up discussing flying boats and I commented about always being interested in the Do 24ATT. Being more of a Do 26 fan, I naturally wanted to see the ATT version of that. I had started the fuselage a long while ago, so I mocked up a quick engine installation as seen here. I'm not 100% on it yet, so I'll have to move it around a lot, tweak the shapes, etc, before the PT6As fit properly.


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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #62 on: February 29, 2012, 05:34:58 AM »
Ok that is just intriguing me further....

It appears (if I am looking at it correctly) that this design has retractable floats.  However the only single engined fighters with retractable floats like this that I am readily aware of are:

The Ursinus Seaplane



and the Blackburn B.44:



and this sin't either of them.

It almost reminds me of a super developed Curtiss SC-2...aarrgghh!!!  Tease!!!
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #63 on: February 29, 2012, 05:52:25 AM »
Yeah, you're probably going to hate me (don't ban me!) when I do reveal what it is.  :P

Wow, that Blackburn is powerfully ugly....

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #64 on: February 29, 2012, 06:00:31 AM »
It is a Blackburn.

Cheers,

Logan

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #65 on: February 29, 2012, 06:04:07 AM »
It is a Blackburn.

Cheers,

Logan

So true. I don't think they could cope if an aircraft procurement request specified: "And make it look pretty."   ;D

That particular one there looks like a pregnant Spitfire.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #66 on: February 29, 2012, 06:14:20 AM »
You won't be banned...penal duty yes (you didn't know that we have our own Gulag's did you? O0), but no banning... C:-)
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #67 on: February 29, 2012, 01:39:42 PM »
You won't be banned...penal duty yes (you didn't know that we have our own Gulag's did you? O0), but no banning... C:-)

No! No Gulag for me, I'll escape. I always escape. Chain me to a desk and make me draw more...   :icon_ninja:

One more hint for now, it's not a plane I made up.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #68 on: February 29, 2012, 01:47:52 PM »
You're just lucky that I can't find my copy of Blackburn Aircraft Since 1909...

...we are definitely preparing a special desk for you in the BTS Gulag...comrade!
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Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #69 on: February 29, 2012, 01:51:52 PM »
Actually, that's what a gulag was for some designers.  Polikarpov designed half of his planes from a prison cell.

Now back to work!   >:(   :icon_sueno:

Cheers,

Logan

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #70 on: February 29, 2012, 02:18:19 PM »
The difference is I would never designs something like a Blackburn or Polikarpov. That's the benefit of free labor over imprisoned labor. :P

I would have done a lot better in Hawker or Supermarine then Blackburn if I was a WWII British aero designer.  ;D

Offline JP Vieira

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #71 on: February 29, 2012, 06:23:51 PM »
Can't wait to see it...

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2012, 10:07:38 PM »
Cross-post from Logan and my Group Build thread for the He 100. I wanted to drop a copy of the finished line art for that here too.



The thread is here. http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1128.0

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 V12
« Reply #73 on: April 12, 2012, 08:14:28 AM »
Still unfinished, but an He 100 I've had running around in my head for a while. I still need to smooth out a few places, like detailing and shaping the deck under the aft canopy.

Basically, it's one of the early production He 100s (A0) with a cutdown aft fuselage and aft canopy taken from an He 112B.


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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #74 on: April 12, 2012, 10:13:42 AM »
Nice! I like your 'bubble-back' He-100 concept  :)
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