Author Topic: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280  (Read 80000 times)

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #100 on: March 27, 2013, 01:33:13 AM »
Beautiful Merlin-powered He100 derivative and quite plausible.  The He100's induction system would mesh easily with the Merlin's updraft carburetor.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #101 on: March 27, 2013, 04:27:07 PM »
Outstanding  :)
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #102 on: March 27, 2013, 08:55:47 PM »
Thanks, guys. I'm really happy with how it's turning out, but I'll be happier once I fix a few things that have been bothering me with it.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #103 on: March 28, 2013, 10:10:16 AM »
Lovely Buchón-Heinkel! Does she keep the original He 100D retractable radiator (to go with the auxiliary rad and oil-cooler under the nose)?
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #104 on: March 28, 2013, 12:50:53 PM »
Thanks, apophenia. I hadn't gone too much into that part yet, but I figured it would probably get rid of the radiator and run off the nose one (particularly if it's beefed up). Dunno, might use simple underwing ones like the Spitfire and Bf 109 anyway.


Actually, not that I think about it, I wanted to see how it looked with the unfinished bubble canopy I did, so here's that roughly done up. I still need to detail under the canopy glass, but its a start.


Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #105 on: March 28, 2013, 09:49:44 PM »
I like it with out the bubble.......

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #106 on: March 28, 2013, 09:55:33 PM »
Same, actually.  It doesn't look very balanced with the bubble canopy.  Looks like too much engine.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #107 on: March 28, 2013, 11:43:04 PM »
Same, actually.  It doesn't look very balanced with the bubble canopy.  Looks like too much engine.
I'll second that.  It needs more presence aft of the cockpit; perhaps an aft canopy like that of the Ki-61-III or Ki-100-II.  An alternative apporach might be lines similar to how Focke-Wulf did the aft canopy and fuselage of the Fw190.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #108 on: March 29, 2013, 01:10:33 AM »
Same, actually.  It doesn't look very balanced with the bubble canopy.  Looks like too much engine.
I'll second that.  It needs more presence aft of the cockpit; perhaps an aft canopy like that of the Ki-61-III or Ki-100-II.  An alternative apporach might be lines similar to how Focke-Wulf did the aft canopy and fuselage of the Fw190.

This canopy is based on the He 112's, though shortened a bit. Only the rear glazing is changed, the windscreen and central portion the same. I can try other looks too.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #109 on: March 30, 2013, 05:13:00 AM »
Not sure which I like most. :-\
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #110 on: March 30, 2013, 06:21:37 AM »
Makes it look big and mean  :)
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #111 on: March 30, 2013, 11:57:14 AM »
Not sure which I like most. :-\

Me neither but I think I'm leaning towards the bubble. Reminds me a little of the earlier all-around vision canopy on the Hawker Typhoon.
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #112 on: May 14, 2013, 01:28:33 AM »
Cross-posting my finished Floaty GB entry.






After WWII, production of the Do 26 was selected over the three-engined Do 24 as the basis of the post-war flying boat forces of several European navies. These incorporated various updates, most importantly amphibious gear and updated engines. A further refined model, the Do 26ATT, with four Pratt and Whitney PT6A engines installed, giving a useful increase in power and efficiency over the dated engines it had used before. Many were purchased by the US Coast Guard, which operated them into the early 1980s. They were initially purchased for their longer range compared to the HU-16Es already in service, enabling more useful patrol radiuses from West Coast air stations. Eventually they were also based on the East Coast as well and performed many rescue missions in their long career.



Artist Notes: These are profiles I've wanted to do for a long time. I first started outlining the Do 26ATT a couple years ago, but only really picked it up again in March and got the line art done for it. It's undetailed compared to my usual as I knew I wouldn't have enough time to get it done if I went all out and did a full, shaded, detailed profile. I would like to revisit them sometime and do just that, but I'm just glad to finally get to see these ideas visualized.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #113 on: May 14, 2013, 02:42:08 AM »
Wow!!! Love them. :)
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #114 on: May 14, 2013, 03:20:24 AM »
Wow!!! Love them. :)

Thanks, Greg!

Now to come up with a '46 profile...

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #115 on: May 14, 2013, 03:30:08 AM »
Very good Talos!! :P

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #116 on: May 14, 2013, 05:33:02 AM »
Love the Do 26ATT! Do the rear nacelles still tilt for take-off and landing?

The PT6s make the 'ATT look more modern. But, the funny thing is, diesels as on the original Do 26 seems to be making soemthing of a comeback  :D
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #117 on: May 14, 2013, 11:25:49 PM »
Thanks, lauhof, apophenia!

Love the Do 26ATT! Do the rear nacelles still tilt for take-off and landing?

The PT6s make the 'ATT look more modern. But, the funny thing is, diesels as on the original Do 26 seems to be making something of a comeback  :D

No, my intention is that, with the new engines, they have a high enough thrust line that there's no need to tilt the rear nacelles, helping to simplify production and maintenance.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #118 on: May 23, 2013, 01:01:38 PM »
While I work on my '46 profile (Greg will love this one...), I thought I'd rough out the shapes for a new profile I've been wanting to do for years. The shapes will need to be refined and accurized more, this is literally five minutes work, then I'll start working on filling in areas with panel lines and detailing. Got a lot of potential ideas with this bird...



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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #119 on: May 23, 2013, 05:55:41 PM »
YF-17?
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #120 on: May 23, 2013, 08:16:21 PM »
YF-17?
Or productionized version thereof?

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #122 on: May 24, 2013, 02:00:09 AM »
Looking forward to the end result of this...
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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #123 on: May 24, 2013, 02:24:44 AM »
productionized version thereof?
The one thing that has bothered me about the YF-17 - esthetically - is the pointy nose. I suspect a later variant would have a more curved nose shape to accommodate a larger radar, much like happened to the F-16.

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Re: Talos' Profiles - He 100 and He 280
« Reply #124 on: May 24, 2013, 02:31:27 AM »
Maybe give it an AN/APG-67 like the F-20?
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