Author Topic: F-20 and X-29 build (Read 14048 times)

Kerick · « **on:** October 26, 2018, 11:02:17 AM »

I’ve started a double build. An F-20 and an X-29, both from Hasegawa in 1:72 scale. Both are really nice kits just right for easy build while I recover from hip replacement surgery. I’m planning to have them both in service paint schemes, perhaps as foreign sales to countries that couldn’t afford F-16s. I’ll see what the old decal box has in it. The F-20 will be the F-16 three tone gray but I’m considering an aggressor scheme from Topgun or Fighter Weapons School. I’ll see what else the muse might bring me.
Pics will follow shortly as I’m unable to climb the stairs to get to the big computer yet. I’m only using my phone for now.

Kerick · « **Reply #1 on:** October 28, 2018, 09:29:30 AM »

Trying to pick a paint scheme....
Too many choices.
What I should do is test my decal sheets and see which ones are still good. That might narrow things down.

Brian da Basher · « **Reply #2 on:** October 28, 2018, 07:33:18 PM »

Well, you can't go wrong with a splinter scheme.

Will look forward to seeing how these turn out!

Brian da Basher

Kerick · « **Reply #3 on:** October 28, 2018, 11:57:51 PM »

I was reading an article about how a USAF aggressor squadron repainted an F-16 in a black and green splinter pattern. There was also a black and grey pattern. Leaning towards an aggressor scheme on the X-29 and something Asian for the F-20.

kitnut617 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 29, 2018, 12:45:31 AM »

Here's one

Kerick · « **Reply #5 on:** October 29, 2018, 02:09:19 AM »

That’s the one! Your pic finding skills are far better than mine!

kitnut617 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 29, 2018, 02:53:08 AM »

Quote from: kerick on October 29, 2018, 02:09:19 AM

That’s the one! Your pic finding skills are far better than mine!

Weeelll ---- had a bit of an advantage there --- I took the pic

it was at the Cold Lake Airshow this year where I spotted it. There was this one too.

Kerick · « **Reply #7 on:** October 29, 2018, 07:36:32 AM »

Nice shots!
Got any more? Please?

kitnut617 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 29, 2018, 07:45:13 AM »

There's this one from the other side

This one is down in Palm Springs at the Aerospace Museum at the airport.

Kerick · « **Reply #9 on:** October 29, 2018, 01:07:57 PM »

Those are nice photos!
Two bobs decals has two Alaskan splinter sets including the one you photographed. In case you have an F-16 kit laying around.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #10 on:** October 30, 2018, 02:12:15 AM »

Quote from: kitnut617 on October 29, 2018, 12:45:31 AM

Here's one

Put some PNGDF markings on it...

Kerick · « **Reply #11 on:** October 30, 2018, 04:38:50 AM »

Can a person buy stuff from twobobs website or do I have to go through a different retailer? The website is not cooperative.

Kerick · « **Reply #12 on:** October 30, 2018, 08:48:41 AM »

Here's the pics I promised.

The obligatory sprue shot.

Basic assembly.

Basic assembly of the X-29.

I dropped the flaps at the rear of the strakes.

Nose to nose. I have since removed the fins on the nose of the X-29.

Comparison of the undersides.

I've since added weapons pylons to each. The F-20 will be loaded for bear with Mavericks and mk 82s while the X/F-29 will have a Sidewinder, ACMI pod and gas bags. I'm going with an aggressor paint scheme on the X/F-29.

Kerick · « **Reply #13 on:** October 30, 2018, 09:21:14 AM »

Here's the decals I'm searching through to find something to use for markings. Most of them are old as the hills so that may make things more difficult when I try to use them. We shall see.

elmayerle · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2018, 10:56:05 AM »

Something you might consider for the FX-29 would be a MiG-21 style gunpod under the fuselage, just forward of the main landing gear. Heck, grab one from a late-model MiG-21.

Kerick · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2018, 11:05:17 AM »

I considered that. One of the reasons for going with the aggressor scheme would be to avoid that issue. It’s something I could add yet. I saw pics on another site where they had placed an F-20 nose on an X-29 to include the guns. Too late for that I think.

The Big Gimper · « **Reply #16 on:** October 30, 2018, 06:07:00 PM »

Nice work. You cannot like building the F-5 family. Lots of users and options in both the RW and What-if realm.

And if you build in aficionado scale, it does not take up much space on the shelf.

Kerick · « **Reply #17 on:** October 30, 2018, 10:55:53 PM »

I might just have to build a T-38 to include a two seater.

ScranJ51 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 31, 2018, 05:43:56 AM »

I did a hypothetical F-20 for the SAAF:

f20-2 by David Freeman, on Flickr

and one for the Kiwi's:

F-20A-01 by David Freeman, on Flickr

Kerick · « **Reply #19 on:** October 31, 2018, 09:35:05 AM »

Those look pretty good! 1/72 or 1/144?

finsrin · « **Reply #20 on:** October 31, 2018, 02:19:46 PM »

F-5, F-20, X-29 trio even with late 1950s origins are not dated in appearance to degree most (not all) others are. 2019 is first flight 60th anniversary.
These are fine looking examples

Kerick · « **Reply #21 on:** November 01, 2018, 01:38:27 AM »

Thanks! I hope the paint scheme and decals turn out ok.

ScranJ51 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 01, 2018, 08:28:44 AM »

1/72nd for my pair

Kerick · « **Reply #23 on:** November 01, 2018, 11:57:07 AM »

I have a doctors appointment in the am tomorrow but maybe after that I can get some painting done. I need to stop dickering around and just pick something! I have a plan for another build but I really want to finish this first.

ScranJ51 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 02, 2018, 03:50:51 PM »

I must admit - I was not very imaginative with my X-29 build (1/72nd)

x-29-2 by David Freeman, on Flickr

Kerick · « **Reply #25 on:** November 03, 2018, 12:29:01 AM »

That looks very good! Those long stripe decals have to be a PTA.
I painted the under side of both aircraft yesterday. I used model master acrylics. So far its 50/50 wether I like using acylics or not. Coverage is not bad, needed a second coat to get proper color. I put too much paint on in a couple of spots and got these nasty lumps when it dried. At least it didn't fill in all the detail. I'll try some more today.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #26 on:** November 05, 2018, 01:56:38 AM »

Quote from: kitnut617 on October 29, 2018, 12:45:31 AM

Here's one

Well, look here:

Kerick · « **Reply #27 on:** November 05, 2018, 04:14:32 AM »

Wow that looks good!
Nice find.

kitnut617 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 05, 2018, 05:18:00 AM »

Damn! look at that ---- seems to be missing a couple of the decals though (stars&bars, badges)

Kerick · « **Reply #29 on:** November 05, 2018, 07:13:52 AM »

There are decals from Twobobs. The question now is which retailer carries these products.

kitnut617 · « **Reply #30 on:** November 05, 2018, 08:54:17 AM »

Quote from: kerick on November 05, 2018, 07:13:52 AM

There are decals from Twobobs. The question now is which retailer carries these products.

Straight from TwoBobs I guess

https://www.twobobs.net/contents/en-us/p713_48-262-F-16C-Alaskan-Splinters-Part-II.html

Kerick · « **Reply #31 on:** November 05, 2018, 02:19:35 PM »

Thanks!
I was on twobobs website but I couldn't get the this page. Fat fingers I guess.

The Big Gimper · « **Reply #32 on:** November 07, 2018, 04:12:24 AM »

More Aggressor schemes. Via Facebook.

Kerick · « **Reply #33 on:** November 07, 2018, 07:08:18 AM »

Great pics! Thanks for posting them! Some good inspiration there.
As usual I'm stuck at the painting stage again. Just too many great choices out there.

ScranJ51 · « **Reply #34 on:** November 07, 2018, 06:18:18 PM »

I did this:

(Hypothetical Aussie F-16 Aggressor)

AGgressor-2 by David Freeman, on Flickr

based on this:

F16_Block_30 by David Freeman, on Flickr

Just a thought

Kerick · « **Reply #35 on:** November 07, 2018, 07:11:19 PM »

Very nice!!

Brian da Basher · « **Reply #36 on:** November 08, 2018, 07:49:39 AM »

Yet more proof (as if any were needed) that few things rev up a model like those Red 'Roos!

They look great against that scheme.

Brian da Basher

Kerick · « **Reply #37 on:** November 10, 2018, 01:32:36 PM »

I've been applying some paint to the F-20. It's getting the F-16 three tone grey scheme. The acrylics are working out pretty good. I've never used them before so it's taking a little getting used too. A little Future and then the decals. The X-29 will get an aggressor scheme but which one?

Kerick · « **Reply #38 on:** November 21, 2018, 11:38:40 AM »

Painting is underway and making slow progress.

Everything is being done with a hairy stick and much cursing. The acrylics on the F-20 took two coats and worked better when I stopped trying to cover in one coat. I could get coverage in one coat but I had to puddle it on, which led to runs and blobs of paint. I'm using Testors enamels on the topside of the X-29. Only one color has been applied yet, it does almost look like an Arctic scheme.

finsrin · « **Reply #39 on:** November 21, 2018, 01:43:28 PM »

Paint comments appreciated.
So far so good. Stay at it.

ScranJ51 · « **Reply #40 on:** November 21, 2018, 03:19:55 PM »

doing well - keep at it

Kerick · « **Reply #41 on:** November 21, 2018, 03:52:35 PM »

Thanks, I’ll keep working on it. One color at a time.

The Big Gimper · « **Reply #42 on:** November 21, 2018, 08:57:26 PM »

Awesome work. Can't say enough nice things about any F-5/F-20/T-38/X-29 build.

Brian da Basher · « **Reply #43 on:** November 21, 2018, 10:50:32 PM »

I really like that brown and white scheme! Drop-dead gorgeous!

Brian da Basher

Kerick · « **Reply #44 on:** November 22, 2018, 07:00:15 AM »

The X-29 is only 1/3 done. No white will be visible when it’s finished.

Kerick · « **Reply #45 on:** November 24, 2018, 03:26:03 PM »

The X-29 will be a US aggressor and the F-20 a different air force. The usability of the decal sheets may dictate the final choice.

Here is the second color.

And the third color.

Radome will be black. The first two colors may need a second coat. The white did look pretty good. Maybe a future Arctic scheme.

Brian da Basher · « **Reply #46 on:** November 24, 2018, 08:45:21 PM »

I don't think I've ever seen that famous aggressor scheme done better.

Pure eye-candy!

Brian da Basher

Kerick · « **Reply #47 on:** November 25, 2018, 01:16:29 AM »

Thanks! All I had was the pic showing the right side so I had to make up the rest. And the paints are gloss so decals will be easy.

Kerick · « **Reply #48 on:** November 27, 2018, 01:02:15 PM »

Put a second coat on two of the colors on the X-29 tonight. I might have gotten more done but the drain from the washer, slop sink and kitchen was clogged again. The sink was 3/4 full of nasty water. Time to take the pipes apart and clean it out again. I suspect there is a problem farther down the line as this keeps happening.

tankmodeler · « **Reply #49 on:** November 28, 2018, 12:02:45 AM »

Quote from: kerick on November 27, 2018, 01:02:15 PM

Time to take the pipes apart and clean it out again. I suspect there is a problem farther down the line as this keeps happening.

Might be worth the cash to have a pro come in and properly snake the lines out to the city sewer line. And then hope that you don't have collapsed clay pipes...

elmayerle · « **Reply #50 on:** November 28, 2018, 02:22:58 AM »

Quote from: tankmodeler on November 28, 2018, 12:02:45 AM

Quote from: kerick on November 27, 2018, 01:02:15 PM
Time to take the pipes apart and clean it out again. I suspect there is a problem farther down the line as this keeps happening.
Might be worth the cash to have a pro come in and properly snake the lines out to the city sewer line. And then hope that you don't have collapsed clay pipes...

Or worse, like some places here in the US have rolled tar paper pipes. On the other hand, a friend and former co-worker found out that the previous owner of his house had "solved" a outside plumbing leak by pouring a whole lot of concrete around the affected area of pipe.

Kerick · « **Reply #51 on:** November 28, 2018, 08:29:40 AM »

As old as this house is and the small town attitude towards building codes I’m really afraid of what might be under the basement floor. And I don’t mean in a John Wayne Gacy sort of way. I’ll try the sewer rod first and hope that takes care of it. I hope there is no amateur plumbing problems to fix.

kitnut617 · « **Reply #52 on:** November 28, 2018, 09:25:24 AM »

Do you have a lot of trees in your yard kerick?

Kerick · « **Reply #53 on:** November 28, 2018, 10:06:51 AM »

Are you suspecting tree roots? Nothing close to the house where the pipes would be.

Kerick · « **Reply #54 on:** November 28, 2018, 12:52:57 PM »

Touched up the third color and brushed Pledge on the flat paint. Decals and details are next!

kitnut617 · « **Reply #55 on:** November 28, 2018, 10:04:24 PM »

Quote from: kerick on November 28, 2018, 10:06:51 AM

Are you suspecting tree roots? Nothing close to the house where the pipes would be.

You'd be surprised how far roots go to find water, are the trees like populars ? they're the worst to have in your yard. Laurals, Elms, Ash, even apple trees too.

Kerick · « **Reply #56 on:** November 28, 2018, 10:47:17 PM »

Silver Maples are notorious. Those are in the back yard away from the house. Thanks for the suggestion.
I'm pretty sure it is cased by lint from the washer getting stuck in the drain. I installed a lint trap on the end of the drain hose but I still have to clean out what is already in the pipe.

kitnut617 · « **Reply #57 on:** November 29, 2018, 01:54:31 AM »

The city sent some guys around when we had drain problems, they ran a mobile tv camera down the pipe from the basement to the back alley and found ours was blocked with roots, fortunately, just outside our property boundary so they augured it out for us for free, otherwise we would've been on the hook for the clean-out. The trees nearby were a Laurel Willow, an Elm and a Crab Apple.

Kerick · « **Reply #58 on:** November 29, 2018, 02:46:30 AM »

All four sound like they would be a pita. Only permanent solution is to cut down the trees.

Old Wombat · « **Reply #59 on:** November 29, 2018, 12:42:08 PM »

Quote from: kitnut617 on November 29, 2018, 01:54:31 AM

The trees nearby were a Laurel Willow, an Elm and a Crab Apple.

All 3 of which love to send invade pipes with their root systems. Well, done!

Kerick · « **Reply #60 on:** November 29, 2018, 03:14:54 PM »

Quote from: Old Wombat on November 29, 2018, 12:42:08 PM

Quote from: kitnut617 on November 29, 2018, 01:54:31 AM
The trees nearby were a Laurel Willow, an Elm and a Crab Apple.

All 3 of which love to send invade pipes with their root systems. Well, done!

Oops, I read that as a Laurel, a Willow, an Elm and a Crab Apple.........
I've seen what willows can do. They'll send roots unbelievable distances up a pipe.

Back to models! Managed a little work tonight. Added the landing gear and other details. Both are up on their legs now. Decals soon.

Kerick · « **Reply #61 on:** November 30, 2018, 10:49:32 AM »

Decals are going really well! All from the scrap decal bag, Some Microscale, others, who knows. No tears or shattering which is pretty darn good considering I have no idea any more how old they are.

Next is the F-20. I think I'll go with Taiwan AF.

Old Wombat · « **Reply #62 on:** November 30, 2018, 11:26:32 AM »

elmayerle · « **Reply #63 on:** November 30, 2018, 12:01:58 PM »

Just looking at the decal sheet under that gorgeous FX-29, you have plenty of options. I've been toying with the idea of doing one as a LIFT (Lead-In Fighter Trainer) for the ASF-X from Ace Combat. I have enough X-29 and F-20 kits to have fun that way.

ScranJ51 · « **Reply #64 on:** November 30, 2018, 01:47:37 PM »

Looking SHARP!!!!!

Kerick · « **Reply #65 on:** November 30, 2018, 02:17:53 PM »

That's an old microscale F-5 sheet. I'm using the Taiwan AF markings on the F-20. Good luck so far.

Kerick · « **Reply #66 on:** November 30, 2018, 04:04:03 PM »

I'm on a roll! Next step is spray some flat and attach the canopies. I'll have to wait until my wife goes to work as she reacts to the smell. I had the dryer running once as I sprayed some paint and the smell got into the clothes. Not a good day.

I hope the white stain on the right wing fades by morning. It looks like someone has been flying real low over the ocean and got salt spray on the wing. It appears as though the Micro Set and Sol has affected the Pledge I used to gloss the paint before decaling. I wiped it with a damp paper towel to try and clean it off but not much help. We'll see what it looks like in the morning.

kitnut617 · « **Reply #67 on:** November 30, 2018, 10:10:29 PM »

Very nice

tankmodeler · « **Reply #68 on:** December 01, 2018, 12:39:36 AM »

Quote from: kerick on November 30, 2018, 04:04:03 PM

Not a good day.

I'm sure you were energetically instructed of the error of your ways...

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #69 on:** December 01, 2018, 02:14:17 AM »

Good choice with the Taiwan markings.

Kerick · « **Reply #70 on:** December 01, 2018, 04:53:09 AM »

Quote from: tankmodeler on December 01, 2018, 12:39:36 AM

Quote from: kerick on November 30, 2018, 04:04:03 PM
Not a good day.
I'm sure you were energetically instructed of the error of your ways...

The dryer makes a poor choice for an exhaust fan.
I have the materials for a spray booth. I just have to get my dead butt up and build it.
Thanks for everyone’s kind comments.

andonio64 · « **Reply #71 on:** December 01, 2018, 03:48:33 PM »

Beautiful F20 and X29 Kerick!

Antonio Sobral · « **Reply #72 on:** December 02, 2018, 04:01:50 AM »

Coming along really nicely!

Love the Taiwanese color scheme.

Kerick · « **Reply #73 on:** December 02, 2018, 06:04:06 AM »

Thanks for the kind comments everyone!

Kerick · « **Reply #74 on:** January 17, 2019, 07:55:33 AM »

Well it looks like I might have actually finished something!

Thanks to The Big Gimper for the refueling probe. It adds a nice touch.

Only two hours work but it was like pulling teeth to get to it. A little bit of bench clearing did help. The X-29 is very glossy right now but I'll wait for warm weather to spray it flat outdoors. Stinks to much in the house otherwise.

kitnut617 · « **Reply #75 on:** January 17, 2019, 08:11:50 AM »

What a fantastic pair kerick

Kerick · « **Reply #76 on:** January 17, 2019, 08:21:19 AM »

Thanks!!

Old Wombat · « **Reply #77 on:** January 17, 2019, 09:15:30 AM »

That's a nice pair of builds, that is!

elmayerle · « **Reply #78 on:** January 17, 2019, 12:05:21 PM »

Real beauties, both of them.

Camthalion · « **Reply #79 on:** January 17, 2019, 12:06:42 PM »

very nice pair

Kerick · « **Reply #80 on:** January 17, 2019, 12:11:23 PM »

Thanks again everyone

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #81 on:** January 18, 2019, 01:56:07 AM »

apophenia · « **Reply #82 on:** January 18, 2019, 06:56:15 AM »

A very nice pair indeed


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