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Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« on: January 26, 2015, 05:49:26 AM »
Hello all. Long time. Seems as if I have got my profiling mojo back [groans from audience]. Quiet you!

First up is the Nord Crécerelle (Kestrel) fighter dynasty inspired by the Nord CT.20:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Aviation_CT20

Nord Crécerelle IN AdlA by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

Nord Crécerelle IIP AdlA by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

(With the IIP the P stands for plat, the closest I could translate to prone.)

Nord Crécerelle IVA AdlA by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

Hope you enjoy them.




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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2015, 08:00:32 AM »
Looking good! :)
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2015, 06:02:31 AM »
Thanks!

Here are a couple of Soviets....

Lavochkin La-184 Figment:

Lavochkin La-184 'Figment' VVS by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

Ilyushin Il-31 Fissure-A:

Ilyushin Il-31 'Fissure-A' VVS by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2015, 09:18:38 AM »
Last two design/color combos favorites :)

Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2015, 01:44:47 AM »
Thanks!

Ilyushin Il-31M Fissure-C:

Ilyushin Il-31M 'Fissure-C' VVS by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2015, 02:53:41 AM »
Great silhouettes! Like coming from nowhere but "could have been" anyway! :-*

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2015, 04:47:37 AM »
I really like the Ilyushin Il-31 - any more details?
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2015, 02:14:08 AM »
Thanks!

I envisage the Il-31 as sort of a Su-7ised Il-28. Generally Ilyushin's answer to the Fitter family using an existing fuselage barrel for ease of production (in theory). So new 50-60ish degree sweep wings. New nose intake. Single engine in the fuselage replacing the bomb-bay. Something of the order of a Lyulka AL-7F which has similar smash to the Tumansky R-15 of MiG-25 fame - so supersonic performance via brute force rather than any finesse!

The Il-31M features revised intake geometry (principally auxiliary air inlets), uprated engine (AL-7M perhaps?) and a spine for better aerodynamics/more avionics.

I have a few export customers in mind and a plaything for the PVO coming up next. I have a 1st and 2nd-generation Ilyushin fighter-bomber design (Yak-15/-17 and MiG-15/-17 equivalent) lined up for later. It may be interesting to speculate on an Ilyushin Fencer equivalent?? Maybe a Fencer-ised Il-54 with fuselage engines rather than podded in a revised aft fuselage. Sort of what the Il-102 was to the Il-40.

Sorry for the ramble.  ;)

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2015, 02:38:13 AM »
No need to apologise.  I like your innovation here :).  You had me confused a bit though as I was trying to work out which Ilyushin project design you had based your profile upon.
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2015, 05:52:38 AM »
Thank you.

Given the high performance of the Il-31, an interceptor variant for the PVO was almost inevitable. This was the Il-31P Fissure-D:

Ilyushin Il-31P 'Fissure-D' PVO by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

The Indian Air Force was the first export customer. Initially they received Il-31D Fissure-Bs, a downgraded variant with simplified avionics, intake geometry and a downrated engine. These proved unsatisfactory and later India received the Il-31MD variant which, while still not as potent as the Soviet's own Il-31M, was a considerable improvement. Here is an Indian Il-31D performing a somewhat colourful flypast after an exercise:

Ilyushin Il-31D 'Fissure-B' Indian AF by mtpalmer1, on Flickr




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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2015, 03:15:18 PM »
Dear Empty Handed,
I like your planet very much. Did the Soviets win WW3 there?

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2015, 04:02:41 AM »
The more you post these Il-31s, the more nervous my 1/48 HpH Il-28 is getting... ::)
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2015, 12:59:32 AM »
Thanks guys!

During the Korean War, Ilyushin was busy developing its Il-27 day fighter, in much the same vein as Lavochkin's La-15. As the US B-29 night bombing campaign began to get underway however, Ilyushin OKB was ordered to fulfil an urgent operational requirement for a nightfighter capable of intercepting the B-29. The Il-27 was hastily redesigned as a nightfighter with a new radar nose and lateral intakes. This became the Il-27N, codenamed 'Fennel-B' by the West.

The second prototype was painted in North Korean colours and sent into combat against the B-29s where it claimed two kills. On its fourth sortie it encountered a formation of B-36s and was heavily damaged by cannon fire from its would-be target. In the subsequent forced-landing, the aircraft was written off. Production standard Fennels were too late to see action in Korea. As such the Fennel's impact on the war was minimal.

The Fennel-B went on to serve in the PVO with distinction. It is not known whether the original configuration first prototype (Fennel-A) ever flew.

Ilyushin Il-27N 'Fennel-B' North Korea by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

[Il-76 Candid shrinks in wash?]

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2015, 02:12:11 AM »
Thanks a lot to reveal this secret part of the Korean crisis... Secret history is fascinating, with beautiful unknown airplanes moreover :)

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2015, 04:40:26 AM »
All hail the God of Frustration!!!