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Offline dy031101

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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- My Thought Spins Off / Vikramaditya or Kreml?
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2012, 03:13:12 PM »
Yesterday it came to me...... the Rockwell VFX for some reason kinda reminds me of the MiG-29......

Well then, it just might go well with a carrier that reminds me of either Vikramaditya or Kreml, too.

Two questions in the meantime:

1. does anyone know how the Rockwell VFX would have carried the AIM-54?

2. Vikramaditya or Kreml? (See poll: the WIP went Vikramaditya for now but surely I can still push it either way.)
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 01:54:48 AM by dy031101 »
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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- My Thought Spins Off / Vikramaditya or Kreml?
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2012, 03:31:56 PM »
It seems I am the first one to vote, dy. I was not understanding the words but Google helped: Indian carrier of Sea-Harrier or Russian classical carrier, right?


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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- My Thought Spins Off / Vikramaditya or Kreml?
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2012, 09:43:26 PM »
It seems I am the first one to vote, dy. I was not understanding the words but Google helped: Indian carrier of Sea-Harrier or Russian classical carrier, right?

Vikramaditya is the ex-STOVL aviation cruiser converted into a more-traditional STOBAR configuration for India's upcoming MiG-29.

Kreml as linked to in my post is the speculative configuration of what turns out to be Kusnetzov.  Before the real Kusnetzov showed up, the West thought it would simply have been a bigger and badder Kiev class with catapults.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2012, 01:24:23 AM by dy031101 »
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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- My Thought Spins Off
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2012, 11:39:56 AM »
It appears that Kreml votes outnumber Vikramaditya, so here it is:



It's meant to be a companion ship to the Nike-Phoenix missile cruiser, and the embarked aircraft are already armed with long range missiles, so the aviation cruiser itself does not carry area air defence weapons.  Instead, the ship's onboard armaments are intended primarily for anti-ship (Harpoon missiles) and anti-submarine (ASROC) warfares.  And because it's a companion ship to that Nike-Phoenix missile cruiser, I was going to use the Japanese-made 100mm/L65 guns again but ended up thinking that a more-optimised AA gun might be more useful, hence the ultimate choice of the 76mm guns.  The ship is intended to have two "internal" type deck elevators like the Kiev class or the Giuseppe Garibaldi.

Now putting the Kreml next to it:



......

...... okay.  Maybe I should have used the Tomahawk ABLs instead of the Harpoon launchers......

Comments and suggestions are welcomed.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2012, 11:38:50 AM by dy031101 »
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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- My Thought Spins Off Continued
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2012, 10:38:20 AM »


Added below-waterline parts to the aviation cruiser and replaced the Harpoon launchers...... inside the modified Armored Box Launchers is a twin-tube for a fictional evolution of Rb08 as a counterpart to P-500 Bazalt SSM used by the Kiev class (maybe all that is left of the Rb08 is the general external appearance).



Think of its angled deck as in the configuration of the one used by Vikramaditya except, since it launches non-STOVL aircraft without a skijump, for the presence of two catapults and associated blast deflectors.

I was having an intellectual exercise on what an exportable Kiev class cruiser would have been like but was stuck after putting Volna launchers in place of the Shtorm systems.  I wonder how potent those post-2000 Pechora upgrades could have made the Volna system......

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A while ago I heard that MEKO 360H2 was actually one of the candidates for the Taiwanese project that ultimately led to the local construction of O.H. Perry class FFG.  Hum......



Granted, the 12-round SM-1 launcher falls far short of the 40-round capacity of O.H. Perry; I frankly don't know how or if the ROC would have actually armed the MEKO with SM-1 missiles (considering there would have been no ROCN O.H. Perry in this case, however......); the four 40mm/L70 positions would have been quite some counter to the PLAN of the old though.

The electronics remain mostly unchanged (except for the removal of the dedicated FCRs for the 40mm since 40mm guns in ROCN are an anti-FAC weapon rather than a CIWS) as the ROCN had a history of using Dutch products on their warships, too.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 01:04:37 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- My Thought Spins Off Continued
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2012, 06:17:27 PM »
Looking great

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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- My Thought Spins Off Continued
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2012, 12:23:07 PM »
This is...... a couple of "antagonist" vessels.



Although primarily intended for anti-submarine warfare (hence a glider-delivered-torpedo launcher at the stern), this class of destroyer is actually also armed with a turbojet-powered evolution of the Termit AShM, making it capable of contributing in fleet actions.



Anti-surface warfare version of the destroyer illustrated in the top picture.  SAM launcher is relocated aft, and the 5"/L40 DP gun as well as the glider-delivered-torpedo launcher gave way to two twin 5"/L50 turrets that are more powerful against surface targets but only nominally capable of AA use due to their very slow training speeds compared to the truly-DP 5"/L40.

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Maybe I should come up with a wider variety of ships to carry the evolved Rb08 for fleet actions, too...... or a version of it as LACM......
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 09:08:26 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- Another Aircraft Cruiser
« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2012, 02:21:33 PM »
Notes for the picture:

Another aircraft cruiser- this onet has six 15"/L42 guns, four in two twin turrets and one in a casemate on each side, as a bombardment weapon with a range of about 32000 yards.

In sorties involving anti-aircraft manoeuvres, the cruiser can embark F7U-4 Cutlass interceptors, version re-equipped with J54 (a.k.a. Avon) turbojets, a stronger double-extensible nose undercarriage leg (so that the forward fuselage can remained lowered until catapult launch for easy crew access), and a TV camera that enables the two-man crew to visually identify target for Sparrow missile attacks.  It is also known to operate the somewhat more-versatile F5D Skylancer air-superiority fighters (with a frequently-exercised secondary role of surface attack using bombs and rockets), the compact H-2 Seasprite helicopters, and E-1 Tracer AEW aircraft.

Comments and suggestions welcomed.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 09:37:06 AM by dy031101 »
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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- My Thought Spins Off Continued
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2012, 12:09:25 AM »
Your boat designs are great

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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- My Thought Spins Off Continued
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2012, 12:32:35 AM »
Ditto!!!

And this heavily armed Aircraft Cruiser means business
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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- My Thought Spins Off Continued
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2012, 06:09:56 AM »
Thanks.  ;)



Re-arranged things a little to increase the number of CIWS from two to four (each icon is now denoting a pair, port-and-starboard of the superstructure and the stern).  And the F7U-4 now uses bridles like everyone else on the ship.

Would keeping some fire control radars around help the Simbad launchers in their operations?  Or do they really need only the 3D air search radar and nothing could be gained with anything more?

People might also wonder why this cruiser has sonar despite a lack of ASW weapons...... maybe utility/transport Seasprites outfitted with torpedo pylons to carry out vectored attacks could be the weapons.

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And an old one of mine:



All previously-posted aircraft cruisers (excluding that Kreml with Russian Red Star in #35; it was there just for comparison) in this thread are actually meant to go with this one in a Strangereal-like parallel worlds setting, hence the rather liberal mix of equipment of various origin for those ships  ;D
« Last Edit: August 29, 2014, 10:50:54 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- My Thought Spins Off Continued
« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2012, 08:57:00 AM »
Just some very fast one today......



Alterations are rather limited in scope here.  Just the CNGF-UK from the Never Built section with hull of Horizon from the Real Design section.  Just figured that since they share common origins......
« Last Edit: March 24, 2012, 09:26:28 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- My Thought Spins Off Continued
« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2012, 09:58:09 AM »
Nice! That Dauphin looks a little lost on the Forbin deck though (compared with the Merlin anyway)  ;)
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