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Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: The Big Gimper on November 15, 2018, 02:37:46 AM

Title: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 15, 2018, 02:37:46 AM
RCAF CT-103A Puffin. Radar trainer for the CF-110A Phantom II.  1/72 Airfix Domine T.1 with Monogram F-4D nose and 2 additional engines from another Dominie. Known as "Jimmy" by the crews. A nod to Jimmy Durante.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4864/45880700941_3e77aa2a3b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cUjzVX)
CT-103A-Puffin-01 (https://flic.kr/p/2cUjzVX) by Big Gimper (https://www.flickr.com/photos/21812089@N02/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4871/45880699671_80fbb43d26_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cUjzy4)
CT-103A-Puffin-02 (https://flic.kr/p/2cUjzy4) by Big Gimper (https://www.flickr.com/photos/21812089@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: elmayerle on November 15, 2018, 03:38:45 AM
Most intriguing start, all the more so because there was an offer of F-4D's made to the Canadians.  It would be an interesting aircraft to see in Canadian markings and color schemes; likely followed on by the F-4E for tactical operations.
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: Brian da Basher on November 15, 2018, 05:07:22 AM
I like this one very much, Mr Gimper!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: Some Duck with an Ultimax on November 15, 2018, 06:08:52 AM
I can see why it's called a puffin!

A rather striking resemblance, I must say.
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: apophenia on November 15, 2018, 07:04:07 AM
Excellent concept! Love the quad Vipers  :smiley:

Now you've got me imagining a CT-103B Pinocchio-replacement with CF-104 NASARR nose. And, of course, the ultimate Puffin - the Canadair-built 'CE-103C' with twin General Electric J85s (as per the CT-114 Tutor). The latter would have 1,000 lbf less thrust per engine made up for by reduced empty weight.
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 15, 2018, 07:34:48 AM
Great ideas. I do have an engine-less Dominie which is looking for replacements.
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 15, 2018, 07:37:59 AM
Found this on Facebook Unofficial Airfix Modellers Forum Page. My 4 engine idea is not a new one.

 "As you can see its a MR search a/c. My RN FAA Navigator trainer is in the background."

(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18216506_1755883661389404_7359362775722545117_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AWMwBZ89JI4UORtDQK5mC4mxZ5sLN7es1_dxC5lCJeaUcPpLuQ7z3ARjeC-UYA&_nc_ht=scontent.fxds1-1.fna&oh=0f5a5ebcf90d7aff94410d537ced51e2&oe=5C843F18)
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: KiwiZac on November 15, 2018, 11:59:57 AM
I love the Phantom nose, it looks like a great fit! Beautiful work so far.
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: Kerick on November 15, 2018, 12:34:25 PM
Might make a good patrol aircraft
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 16, 2018, 03:48:02 AM
Outstanding idea! :smiley:
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: elmayerle on November 16, 2018, 01:30:10 PM
Excellent concept! Love the quad Vipers  :smiley:

Now you've got me imagining a CT-103B Pinocchio-replacement with CF-104 NASARR nose. And, of course, the ultimate Puffin - the Canadair-built 'CE-103C' with twin General Electric J85s (as per the CT-114 Tutor). The latter would have 1,000 lbf less thrust per engine made up for by reduced empty weight.
Clone the nacelles off a kit of any "20 Series" Learjet; you might even get away with using the turbofans from a "30 Series" Learjet as an engine upgrade with more thrust and better fuel economy than the J85.
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: kitnut617 on November 16, 2018, 10:55:21 PM
Excellent concept! Love the quad Vipers  :smiley:

Now you've got me imagining a CT-103B Pinocchio-replacement with CF-104 NASARR nose. And, of course, the ultimate Puffin - the Canadair-built 'CE-103C' with twin General Electric J85s (as per the CT-114 Tutor). The latter would have 1,000 lbf less thrust per engine made up for by reduced empty weight.
Clone the nacelles off a kit of any "20 Series" Learjet; you might even get away with using the turbofans from a "30 Series" Learjet as an engine upgrade with more thrust and better fuel economy than the J85.

Having seen a lot of different business jets at YYC which have honking big engines mounted, how about the engines off an A-10
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 16, 2018, 11:00:00 PM
Excellent concept! Love the quad Vipers  :smiley:

Now you've got me imagining a CT-103B Pinocchio-replacement with CF-104 NASARR nose. And, of course, the ultimate Puffin - the Canadair-built 'CE-103C' with twin General Electric J85s (as per the CT-114 Tutor). The latter would have 1,000 lbf less thrust per engine made up for by reduced empty weight.
Clone the nacelles off a kit of any "20 Series" Learjet; you might even get away with using the turbofans from a "30 Series" Learjet as an engine upgrade with more thrust and better fuel economy than the J85.

Having seen a lot of different business jets at YYC which have honking big engines mounted, how about the engines off an A-10

Maybe.  ;)

They won't be small, that's for sure.
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 17, 2018, 02:55:27 AM
Tempted to do something similar with a 1/48 T-39 Sabreliner.
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: apophenia on November 17, 2018, 07:33:11 AM
Clone the nacelles off a kit of any "20 Series" Learjet; you might even get away with using the turbofans from a "30 Series" Learjet as an engine upgrade with more thrust and better fuel economy than the J85.

Oh, that's clever! I was going for RCAF/CAF commonality with the J88/CJ610. You lose that a bit with the 30 Series' TFE731 upgrade. (The CAF CC-117s had CF700/TF37s ... but Canada probably wouldn't have bought those Falcons if they already had Dominies in service.)
Title: Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 17, 2018, 07:47:53 AM
Clone the nacelles off a kit of any "20 Series" Learjet; you might even get away with using the turbofans from a "30 Series" Learjet as an engine upgrade with more thrust and better fuel economy than the J85.

Oh, that's clever! I was going for RCAF/CAF commonality with the J88/CJ610. You lose that a bit with the 30 Series' TFE731 upgrade. (The CAF CC-117s had CF700/TF37s ... but Canada probably wouldn't have bought those Falcons if they already had Dominies in service.)

Ah, you have uncovered my secret agenda. Canadair sells CL-215s to the UK to put out peat bog fires and in return have to buy Domine's.