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Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: ericr on May 23, 2014, 03:00:18 PM

Title: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: ericr on May 23, 2014, 03:00:18 PM
a flying boat is a boat that flies, so I thought, maybe a bit inspired by the dornier RS series :

(http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/germany/dorn_rs-3.jpg)

that I might try and fit wings, and a motor and propeller, to a boat.

For the boat I have :

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/P1210162s_zps00d83385.jpg)

which just happens  (or maybe I chose it on purpose because it hasthe nice feature) to have the same length (as a kit, let's have cross-scaling) as :

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/PC290038s_zpse24f7439.jpg)

and the crossing is done in blue : it is even amphibious actually

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/P5120436s_zpsd0242e03.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/P5120439s_zps5f9f19ea.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/P5120444s_zps788a714d.jpg)

Title: Re: a flying boat, quite litterally
Post by: Volkodav on May 23, 2014, 06:15:41 PM
 ;D
Excellent!
Title: Re: a flying boat, quite litterally
Post by: Brian da Basher on May 23, 2014, 09:12:40 PM
What an imaginative concept!

It really looks great in all over blue!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: a flying boat, quite litterally
Post by: raafif on May 24, 2014, 01:59:17 PM
it's crazy .. but it works :)

may have to try it with a larger hull like a trawler or tug.
Title: Re: a flying boat, quite litterally
Post by: Tophe on May 26, 2014, 12:27:44 AM
Wow! :-* :-*
(Question: what is the size of the pilot?)
Title: Re: a flying boat, quite litterally
Post by: ericr on May 29, 2014, 01:24:46 AM
thanks all for your comment !

it's crazy .. but it works :)

may have to try it with a larger hull like a trawler or tug.


I tried something like this with a marger hull indeed, but it's a land-based, wheeled one :

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/franklin-b24-s_zps97dbb907.jpg)

I alsos tried somthing winged with a tug actually :

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/tug-s_zpsea664488.jpg)
Title: Re: a flying boat, quite litterally
Post by: ericr on May 29, 2014, 01:26:08 AM

considering the attempts at using flying boats for sailing (e.g., a Rohrbach) :

(http://www.histaviation.com/Ro_II_serie_3_sailing.jpg)

(http://www.natureandtech.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Ro-II-Sails-Web.jpg)

 and the fact that wings were not quite necessary for that purpose, here is a proposal for a sailing hull,
using the other parts of the same kits as before :


(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/P5210458s_zps023dbc99.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/P5210456s_zpscd030556.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/walrus-bateau-s_zps24c38253.jpg)

Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 29, 2014, 02:33:09 AM
I love that aircraft carrier!!  The Last one (the Walrus) could easily be done in real life.
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: jcf on May 29, 2014, 03:00:34 AM
Very nice, however a point of order, technically the Walrus hull would be a 'motor-boat'.  ;)

And it is indeed something that has happened numerous times over the years, one example is the SARO A.19 Cloud,
OK-BAK(G-ACGO) that was used from just after the war up until the mid-60s as the motor launch Delfin.

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/BTS/A19_CLOUD_OK-BAK_01.png)

BTW, the sails and spars on the Rohrbach were there purely as auxiliary propulsion in case of engine failure,
and evidently it worked reasonably well.
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: ericr on May 29, 2014, 04:05:15 AM
Very nice, however a point of order, technically the Walrus hull would be a 'motor-boat'.  ;)

And it is indeed something that has happened numerous times over the years, one example is the SARO A.19 Cloud,
OK-BAK(G-ACGO) that was used from just after the war up until the mid-60s as the motor launch Delfin.


BTW, the sails and spars on the Rohrbach were there purely as auxiliary propulsion in case of engine failure,
and evidently it worked reasonably well.


thanks a lot for the Cloud story : I didn't know that, and it does confirm my intuition!

I had done in the past a pure sailing, motorless interpretation of the Riohrbach concept, transforming rescue propulsion into leisure :

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/hyd-voile2-s_zps5e3f3ce5.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/P7020155s_zps1a2be7c8.jpg)
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: apophenia on May 29, 2014, 10:59:28 AM
Love your nautical Walri  ;D Although that winged tugboat is too cool as well!
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: Kerick on May 29, 2014, 11:22:29 PM
Very nice, however a point of order, technically the Walrus hull would be a 'motor-boat'.  ;)

And it is indeed something that has happened numerous times over the years, one example is the SARO A.19 Cloud,
OK-BAK(G-ACGO) that was used from just after the war up until the mid-60s as the motor launch Delfin.

([url]http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/BTS/A19_CLOUD_OK-BAK_01.png[/url])

BTW, the sails and spars on the Rohrbach were there purely as auxiliary propulsion in case of engine failure,
and evidently it worked reasonably well.


Love this story! Some great real life whiffing. And to hear it went to a museum for restoration is even better. How would this look using a Grumman Gosling, Goose or Albatross? Or even a Catalina?
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: Logan Hartke on May 29, 2014, 11:26:20 PM
And here it is today:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7131/7568358676_7b6c00104a_c.jpg)

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: Kerick on May 30, 2014, 12:01:03 AM
Looks great! I bet it was fun on the water! It had a little diesel punk look to it.
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: Brian da Basher on May 30, 2014, 02:45:07 AM
You keep coming up with some amazingly imaginative concepts!

Love the flying boat sail plane!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 30, 2014, 02:47:50 AM
Maybe re-use the wings to create something like this:

(http://www.cowesheritage.co.uk/content/gallery/images/large/87.jpg)
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: ericr on May 30, 2014, 02:59:38 AM
Maybe re-use the wings to create something like this:


mmmhh, it's a biplane boat   :icon_surprised:
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 31, 2014, 02:58:45 AM
Whilst on the general theme, here is another one…this time a Dornier:

(http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/gallery/albums/Dornier/ME_Dornier.jpg)
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: ericr on May 31, 2014, 04:07:22 AM
Whilst on the general theme, here is another one…this time a Dornier:


thank you so much for the info and picture!

It is astonishing sometimes how posting on a forum can bring much more feedback than expected!

let's continue the thread : all aircraft transformed into boats welcome!

Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: Kerick on May 31, 2014, 04:12:53 AM
Here's one of Howard Hughes old Aircraft.
http://www.ecofriend.com/eco-tech-howard-hughes-boeing-b-307-transformed-into-an-exotic-houseboat.html (http://www.ecofriend.com/eco-tech-howard-hughes-boeing-b-307-transformed-into-an-exotic-houseboat.html)

Some selections from Dark Roasted Blend.
http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/03/mystery-photo-jet-in-your-backyard.html (http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/03/mystery-photo-jet-in-your-backyard.html)
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 31, 2014, 04:49:34 AM
The BV138 could be another good candidate for this treatment, especially if one stopped at about this stage:

(http://www.bare-metal.com/articles/article_images/blohm_und_voss_bv_138c_seedrache/scribe2.jpg)
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: Kerick on May 31, 2014, 11:14:10 AM
Very top heavy! I suggest some sponsons or outrigger device to keep the right side up!
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: elmayerle on May 31, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
Very top heavy! I suggest some sponsons or outrigger device to keep the right side up!
Perhaps take that a step further and make this the center hull of a trimaran?
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: taiidantomcat on May 31, 2014, 10:41:33 PM
The boats, planes, and boat/planes in this thread are great!  :)
Title: Re: a sailing seaplane (following : a flying boat, quite litterally)
Post by: ericr on July 06, 2014, 06:27:01 PM
Very top heavy! I suggest some sponsons or outrigger device to keep the right side up!
Perhaps take that a step further and make this the center hull of a trimaran?

that would be beautiful ; maybe with a vertical-wing-like sail as they do in modern boats?