Beyond The Sprues
Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on December 30, 2011, 11:51:07 AM
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Hi folks,
A thread for your He111 ideas and inspiration.
Here's one to start you off:
A float plane to operate from Fjords or the Med' perhaps? Probably needs bigger floats though.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/He111H6Wb2.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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A radial engined version?
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/111h6R.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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Maybe in the '60s, the Spanish decide to re-engine their CASA 2.111Bs with turboprops to create CASA 2.111Ts:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/Casa2111T.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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Jet engine testbed:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/111H6J.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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He-111 tank buster with 75mm cannon + different engines:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/He-111Pak75.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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In 1941, the Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor was joined in the anti-shipping role by the He-211 "Albatros":
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/he-211b1.jpg)
Later on some were fitted with radar and anti-shipping missiles:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/he-211b2r.jpg)
And just for comparison - a standard He-111H-6:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/111h6-1.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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If the Do-217 could be a night fighter, why not the He-111:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/111F4NJ.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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Trimotor:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/111F4tri.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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He-111. ala He-119 style:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/He111h14sp.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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or alternatively, they try this as a way of increasing the range of the Me-109:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/He111Me109Mistel.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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AWACS anyone?
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/He111Awacs.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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How about a pusher variant - with tricycle undercarriage and heavy anti-shipping cannon:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/He111H6PushAS.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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How about a variant with eight 20 mm MG 151/20 E cannons - two in pods under each wing and two scabbed onto either side of the cockpit:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/He-111H6R12.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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Swept wing jet He-111 concept:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/c17eede3.jpg?t=1241820334)
Regards,
Greg
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Totally throwing practicality out the window... :yarr::
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/dc1b9b7f.jpg?t=1241841980)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/b9e02671.jpg?t=1241842001)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/7978ed0b.jpg?t=1241842017)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/8ab79e6b.jpg?t=1241842034)
Ok, my head is spinning now.
Regards,
Greg
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Yep, we're totally gone now... :dizzy:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/He111T5.jpg?t=1241899200)
Regards,
Greg
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How about a turboprop variant:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/he111tp.jpg?t=1241901210)
Regards,
Greg
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Fabulous upon Fabulous variants. AWACS for vectoring fighters to those nasty Yankee bombers. Last five or so are super inspiring for kind of bashing I like to do.
Think Boeing or Lockheed might use your concepts ???
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WOW - now you posted even more to ponder.
Bill
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Love the FSW variant.
Regards,
John
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>In 1941, the Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor was joined in the anti-shipping role by the He-211 "Albatros":<
Possibly refering to my "He-211 Albatros" from way back??
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv173/sequoiaranger/He211-r-1.jpg)
This beast was made from TWO He-111Z models to get the straight wing/engine sections, an Airmodel vac-formed early nose and wingtips, and an Airfix top turret. She carries two torpedoes. *MY* story goes that a kette of Albatros' met the wounded Bismarck way out at sea, drove off the Ark Royal's Swordfish (acting as long-range fighters), and put torpedoes into KGV and Rodney, allowing the Biz to escape destruction and return to Brest.
I have a plan to "Phoenix" this model, using a Lindberg (1/64 approx) He-111 for a larger and longer fuselage than the "standard" He-111. I may decline the re-build, as this Albatros is one of my all-time favorite models (and that of my "fans").
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The mind boggles...
My personal favorites are the night fighter (looks so natural!) and the swing-wing variant.
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May I make a suggestion? A biplane He 111... Engines would be halfway between the two wings, the tail would be a twin-fin one, and the nose would be extended further forward. I have only managed to do a top view so far, side and especially front views are awfully difficult to do!!
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All excellent ideas Geoff.
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I like the idea of a He-111 biplane. Maybe along the lines of the DH Dragon Rapide shown here?
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv173/sequoiaranger/de-havilland-dh-89a-dragon-rapide.jpg)
Most likely the thick and broad wings would have been thinned. Despite biplane bombers like the Handley-Page Heyford, trying to lift heavy weight with biplanes is very hard on the plane not securely fastened to the fuselage. The much-larger Heyford could only lift some 4,000 pounds max. The monoplane He-111 could lift more than that.
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A biplane is one idea I certainly hadn't considered...great one!
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Here is another He-111 derivative. It's the ancient Faller 1/100 He-111, made into a fictional 1/72 high-altitude, jetstream-riding fighter (ex-German He-121) for Japan, with ultra-long wings, X-16 turbocharged engine (cooling and piping a la Fw-190 V18), and pressure cockpit (a turned-around top-gunner's perspex). Kinda reminds me of the He-119 with the big fan up front.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv173/sequoiaranger/SoryuDone2-09-mm.jpg)
Front view (no extra charge for "hand" in the picture):
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv173/sequoiaranger/SoryuDoneTop-m.jpg)
No pic, but I also took a 1/144 He-111 and made a 1/72 single-engined "fighter trainer" out of it. Argus engine, open cockpit, "trousered" undercarriage (where the engine nacelles went) with a single gun in each "trouser". I do love the look/shape of the He-111!
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Still looking for photos of the real KG-55's low-level Train-Buster version .....
wondering what Greg can come up with :-\ :o >:D
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Still looking for photos of the real KG-55's low-level Train-Buster version .....
wondering what Greg can come up with :-\ :o >:D
Is that the one with about 6 20mm cannon in the nose - I am sure I have seen a photo of that recently.
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I knew I had seen it:
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j447/cronkamoto/p78snow.jpg)
Bill Cronk (who provided the photo) is doing a model of this over on Hyperscale.
Next challenge please. ;)
Regards,
Greg
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From Albatross to swept to delta to variable sweep wings, I be overwhelmed :-\
Bill
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([url]http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j447/cronkamoto/p78snow.jpg[/url])
Nope, research on another forum indicates that it apparently is not KG-55 but another squadron in Russia (Smolensk) -- may have been a KG-55 machine at one time tho.
I want MORE & BIGGER guns !! >:(
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Nope, research on another forum indicates that it apparently is not KG-55 but another squadron in Russia (Smolensk) -- may have been a KG-55 machine at one time tho.
I want MORE & BIGGER guns !! >:(
Jease! Tough audience! I'm going to take "may have been a KG-55 machine at one time tho." as a partial victory then! ;)
As for bigger guns, try my tank buster at Reply#4 of this thread then.
Regards,
Greg
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As for bigger guns, try my tank buster at Reply#4 of this thread then.
well ... it's bigger but where's the MORE ?
Love the BMW engines on it, Greg, don't often see them in whifs.
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Just a thought, how about using the earlier "stepped" nose and making it a "gun nose" like that fitted to B-25's and A-26's.
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Just a thought, how about using the earlier "stepped" nose and making it a "gun nose" like that fitted to B-25's and A-26's.
A bit like the night fighter at Reply # 6?
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Love the BMW engines on it, Greg, don't often see them in whifs.
Actually that particular one has Jumo 213s on it.
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The biplane He 111 by Stargazer has me intrigued! (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/Emoticons/w00t.gif)
Also diggin' the CASA 2.111 with turboprops. (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/Emoticons/70.gif) Just the thing for an African or South American storyline.
Semi-related: Thought about a Ju 88 with the RR Darts form a Fokker Friendship a couple of weeks ago. Flown by mercs for an African storyline (much like the Biafran Invaders). Maybe donated/sold French-built ones?
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Just a thought, how about using the earlier "stepped" nose and making it a "gun nose" like that fitted to B-25's and A-26's.
A bit like the night fighter at Reply # 6?
Yep, though with a heavier armament in the nose and without the AI radar.
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Random thought: Do a post war (or even during war) unarmed He-111H-22 but with the standard V-1 replaced with a manned Fieseler Fi 103 Reichenberg IV. This could be in something like a bright red scheme as a testbed or even speed record bird. I'm thinking of something akin to a German B-29/X-1 combo.
(http://en.valka.cz/attachments/121/He_111_H-22.jpg)
(http://heinkel111.narod.ru/pictures/camouflage/32.jpg)
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/fi103-1.jpg)
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh26/NUBINA/fi103rn2.jpg)
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post-war unarmed He-111H-22 but with the standard V-1 replaced with a manned Fieseler Fi 103 Reichenberg IV. This could be in something like a bright red scheme
Postal Service fast delivery ? Ex-captured aircraft sold to Royal Mail - express parcel-post London to Edinburgh with air drop-off over Birmingham ?? ;D
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"Just for the fun of it, just for a laugh..."
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Ok....take the H-22, but instead have it CASA built and sporting a pair of Allison V-1710's.
USAF missile test bed.
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Trimotor:
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/111F4tri.jpg[/url])
Regards,
Greg
I like this one - doable too, since Roden make various kits of the normal-nosed -A, -B, -C and -E versions. Their -B is in Spanish Nationalist colours, so you might imagine them trying to get more performance out hte airframe whilst on the wrong side of a post-war embargo on more advanced types...
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Then here is the He-61 "Culebra", a 1/144 He-111 made into a 1/72 fighter-trainer with Argus engine, and guns and wheel pants where the twin engines would have been.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv173/sequoiaranger/Culebra03-r.jpg)
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([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/111F4tri.jpg[/url])
I like this one - doable too, since Roden make various kits
from what I hear those early He-111s of Roden's have appalling fit :( so whiffing to another aircraft entirely is probably best.
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Nice.
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Interesting, possibly inspiring photo:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Fieseler_Fi_157.jpg)
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There's this up for grabs on eBay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Exceptional-He-111Z-Zwilling-Conversion-1-48-cutting-edge-/291325113990?pt=FR_YO_JeuxJouets_MaquettesModelisme&hash=item43d4547686#ht_485wt_1190 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Exceptional-He-111Z-Zwilling-Conversion-1-48-cutting-edge-/291325113990?pt=FR_YO_JeuxJouets_MaquettesModelisme&hash=item43d4547686#ht_485wt_1190)
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There's this up for grabs on eBay
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Exceptional-He-111Z-Zwilling-Conversion-1-48-cutting-edge-/291325113990?pt=FR_YO_JeuxJouets_MaquettesModelisme&hash=item43d4547686#ht_485wt_1190[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Exceptional-He-111Z-Zwilling-Conversion-1-48-cutting-edge-/291325113990?pt=FR_YO_JeuxJouets_MaquettesModelisme&hash=item43d4547686#ht_485wt_1190[/url])
Got one already... ;)
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A neat to kitbash one day idea is.
1/32 He111 fuselage with some sort of large 1/72 wings plus appropriate fuselage mods to become 1/72 heavy bomber.
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A neat to kitbash one day idea is.
1/32 He111 fuselage with some sort of large 1/72 wings plus appropriate fuselage mods to become 1/72 heavy bomber.
Stretch the existing wings with a constant chord and airfoil section on each side mounting another engine (yielding a 4-engined heavy bomber)? Or if you want a really heavy bomber, the middle wing of a He111Z on each side with the outboard wing, outboard of the engines, of a standard He111.
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Or combine with a 1/48 Cutting Edge He 111D/E Conversion and turn into a twin fuselage airliner... ;)
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Some interesting real world He111s:
With 3 BV 246 Hagelkorn:
(http://www.e-reading.club/illustrations/1021/1021576-pic_24.jpg)
Big snow skids:
(http://www.e-reading.club/illustrations/1021/1021576-pic_82.jpg)
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Supposedly taken recently somewhere in Russia (click to see bigger versions):
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/0101a-jpg.593933/)
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/0102-jpg.593934/)
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/0103a-jpg.593935/)
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/0103c-jpg.593937/)
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/0103d1-jpg.593939/)
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/0103e-jpg.593940/)
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/0103f-jpg.593941/)
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Gee,,, what a find !
Very interesting.
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What if a liner derived from CASA C.2111?
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/C-2111_Liner.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/277cb491-f1e0-40f3-8e43-40478e70c454)
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In a similar vein (just ignore the guns):
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/QuO4N5X(1).png)
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Errr...there any He111 left in there?
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^^^^^
:-[ :-[
Sorry! Already fixed. ::) ???
:icon_crap: :icon_crap:
:))
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Errr...there any He111 left in there?
Wings
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^^^^^
Sorry. I posted something that was not related with He-111. So, I deleted my post. :smiley: :D
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In a different universe:
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/ask-jpg.658832/)
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If the Do-217 could be a night fighter, why not the He-111:
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/111F4NJ.jpg[/url])
Regards,
Greg
Not the same but still interesting:
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/screenshot_2023-02-08-06-02-54-70_f541918c7893c52dbd1ee5d319333948-jpg.706032/)
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I am also a bit into He111 thinking, if a kit comes crossing my way maybe , but just a question:
are the early version of the Glas nose made symetric and not like the later versions ?
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They seem to have missed the one firing forward from the belly gunner's bulge/pod/blister.
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I am also a bit into He111 thinking, if a kit comes crossing my way maybe , but just a question:
are the early version of the Glas nose made symetric and not like the later versions ?
The forward glazing of the He 111 V7 and V8 - prototypes for the He 111P - were noticeably different from the glazing on production models. But, AFAIK, the asymmetry existed from the outset.
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In the late 1930's the Irish Air Corps looked at all the twin-engined German planes as they wanted an MP plane which could also act as a troop transport.
They ended up with the Anson 1 but I always thought a He-111 would have been a more logical choice.
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The nose cannon in Bertram's plane looks larger-than-2cm. When I went looking for documentation, I found this from a gaming video.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CZO6WBPtyk8/maxresdefault.jpg)
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In the late 1930's the Irish Air Corps looked at all the twin-engined German planes as they wanted an MP plane which could also act as a troop transport.
They ended up with the Anson 1 but I always thought a He-111 would have been a more logical choice.
An Irish He111 could prove an interesting build
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In the trailer for the most recent Indiana Jones movie, there appears to be a twin-tailed He 111. I did not notice the second gun blister atop the fuselage the first time...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52695760572_9fdf2eccd2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ohxxJ5)Twin tail He 111 (https://flic.kr/p/2ohxxJ5) by VileDr.Yo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46965833@N07/), on Flickr
The whole trailer- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkvqiddPqCE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkvqiddPqCE)
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Supposedly taken recently somewhere in Russia (click to see bigger versions):
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/0101a-jpg.593933/)
It's a mockup for a Russian movie (https://www.airliners.net/photo/Germany-Air-Force/Heinkel-He-111H-22-mock-up/6224691). Pretty good 1:1 model, though.
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:smiley:
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"Just for the fun of it, just for a laugh..."
What a 'drag' 😂
MAD
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What if a liner derived from CASA C.2111?
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/C-2111_Liner.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/277cb491-f1e0-40f3-8e43-40478e70c454)
Nice ysi_maniac 👍
MAD
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Looks buildable for someone up to doing the top section transplant and PSR.